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USA Rushed into WWII to Save the Jew--NOT
Jun 4, 2015 04:34:04   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Many think that the US and Great Brittan entered into WWII to “save” the Jews in Germany and Poland. This is untrue. Fact are, the USA was natural and could care less if every last man, woman, or child who were being murdered by the millions by Germany resulted in the eradication of not just Jew but Rumi, or other “misfits.” They had bought into the propaganda produced by Henry Ford and Adolf Hitler. There was no “love” for the Jew, no rush to save them or anyone. Although the US officials had known about the murders and the camps from 1933 and the Final Solution which began in 1939, they campaigned to “Save the World form Jewish Influence” and “Save Europe from the stronghold of the Jew” and finally “Remove the rich Jewish bankers.” The same propaganda that is circulating in the USA right now.

The reason that the US entered into WWII is simple, Germany (Hitler) declared war on the US on December 11, 1941. “First he incites war, then falsifies the causes, then odiously wraps himself in a cloak of Christian hypocrisy and slowly but surely leads mankind to war,” those were the words of Hitler to the Germans on why he declared war. Hitler had already ensured Japan if they declared war against America, that Germany would also join declare war.

America often pats their own back and claim that they are the ones who liberated the Jew from the concentration camps. That is partly true, but not entirely. Russia’s Soviet forces were the first to approach a major Nazi camp, Maidanek near Lublin, Poland in July 1944. The Soviets liberated Auschwitz, the largest killing center and concentration camp, in January 1945. In the following months, the Soviets liberated additional camps in the Baltic states and in Poland. Shortly before Germany's surrender, Soviet forces liberated the Stutthof, Sachsenhausen, and Ravensbrueck concentration camps. And I give credit where credit is due. US forces liberated the Buchenwald concentration camp near Weimar, Germany, on April 11, 1945. They also liberated Dora-Mittelbau, Flossenbürg, Dachau, and Mauthausen. And it was only by hapenstance that they did. It was not part of the objective. The objective of the USA was to win the war, not save a nation.

Hang in there, you will see how this fact is played out in the creation of Israel. Now then, are you aware that the Liberals in the USA and Great Brittan were opposed to the creation of a homeland for the Jews? They fought it in as many ways they could. You see, the Liberals had accepted the propaganda put out by people like Henry Ford and Adolf Hitler. They, like many Liberals of today, saw the Jew as a parasite.

The bottom-line on this, America did not give a hoot about the Jew, German or otherwise. Brittan did not care either. Both opposed the formation of Israel. They offered zero support in the meetings with the UN. Now then Great Brittan had been looking for a way to unload the lands they acquired under the British Mandate for Palestine, or simply the Mandate for Palestine. In the event you are not familiar with this legal document, it provided for the administration of the territory that had formerly constituted the Ottoman Empire sanjaks of Nablus, Acre, the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, prior to the Armistice of Mudros. The area was a financial drain and a drain of manpower (soldiers provided security because of the constant conflicts in the area). WWI had been brutal on the British economy and the military, so unloading this region was to their best interest. When the UN suggested that this may be a great place for the Jews, and because they were already a very large presence (still) in the area, it should be divided up and the new nations would be formed. So, it began. Jews were given a green light to purchase land (from the owners) to resettle. At first, there were 800,000 and later the UN gave “permission” for another 100,000 to resettle. Now mind you, they had already established a land for the Jew, but the UN still retained immigration visas for the area.

The return of the Jews to Palesine was enthusiastically supported by British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, who -- in a surprise twist that will shock you silly -- imagined that Britain would provide "guidance" to the new nation. Which obviously had nothing to do with Britain's strategic interest in strengthening its influence in the Middle East and checking Russian designs on Afghanistan. Totally altruistic. With help from donors, a steady trickle of European Jews began to immigrate to the Southern Levant.

It is now important for the reader to learn another fact, and those who support the Palestinians will not like this fact. But, it is a historical fact borne out by archeological records. The trace of the original populace of Palestine is rather difficult but the ancient inhabitants of Palestine are known to be ancient Greeks hailed from Asia Minor and not Arabs or Semites. The location of Palestine at the crossroads to some chief civilizations like Egyptians, Babylonians and Romans made it a frequently invaded land with several people living here through the ages. Therefore, those who claim that there is no difference between the Jew and the Palestine are wrong. In fact the origin of Arabs is intermingled with several races and ethnic groups instead of a more singular line. The tradition says that Arabs come from the line of Abraham and his son Ishmael. The tribal, Bedouin society of the Arabian Desert is the birthplace of “Arab”. There are other ethnic Arab groups as well that spread in the land and existed for millennia. Before modern Arab nationalism which developed in 19th and 20th century, Arab speaking people identified themselves with a particular tribe, a village or a family.

Often it is written that the Arabs (Muslims) treated the Jew better than the Christian. And they lived with each other in a utopian society where there was respect and partnership. Okay, the Muslims did treat them better. But, better is a matter of degree. If your idea of better is that they provided protection, then yes. It was better. But, at what price? For Islam, the price the Jew paid was their subordination to Muslim law and accepting the lowest social status within the framework of the “peaceful Islamic” order. And yes, this was a step up from Christendom, where the Jew were positioned outside of protective boundaries of religious and secular law. The less “civilized” approach applied to the Jews within the domain of Christendom was based on the lack of clearly stated and divinely ordained rules toward the Jews. Thus, positioning them outside of the protection of regular law exposed them to the arbitrary decisions of unpredictable rulers. To make the contrast sharper, the Islamic “peaceful strategy” has been compared to the Ashkenazi status, as they were considered ‘outsiders’ along with ‘pagans, unbelievers, heretics, and lepers.’

The state of Israel was born in 1949, although it actually began as shown much earlier, it was recognized in 1949. And after Israel fought for their independence, President Truman approved a $135 million dollar export-import bank loan and the sale of surplus commodities to Israel. It took Israel 17 years to repay this loan, but the final installment was paid and the loan was paid in full. In 1951, Congress voted to help Israel cope with the economic burdens imposed by the influx of Jewish refugees from the displaced persons camps in Europe and from the ghettos of the Arab countries. Arabs then complained the U.S. was neglecting them, though they had no interest in or use for American aid then. In 1951, Syria rejected offers of U.S. aid. Oil-rich Iraq and Saudi Arabia did not need U.S. economic assistance, and Jordan was, until the late 1950s, the ward of Great Britain. After 1957, when the United States assumed responsibility for supporting Jordan and resumed economic aid to Egypt, assistance to the Arab states soared. Also, the United States was by far the biggest contributor of aid to the Palestinians through UNRWA, a status that continues to the present.


US economic grants to Israel ended in 1959. U.S. aid to Israel from then until 1985 consisted largely of loans, which Israel repaid, and surplus commodities, which Israel bought. Israel began buying arms from the United States in 1962, but did not receive any grant military assistance until after the 1973 Yom Kippur War. As a result, Israel had to go deeply into debt to finance its economic development and arms procurement. The decision to convert military aid to grants that year was based on the prevailing view in Congress that without a strong Israel, war in the Middle East was more likely, and that the U.S. would face higher direct expenditures in such an eventuality.

How often do you read that Israel has “violated” UN General Assembly Resolutions? Some say that they are in violation of more than 150 of these rules and still others claim 65. Regardless, what the reader needs to fully understand, Resolutions of United Nations General Assembly, UN HRC etc. are not binding. They just are a representation of the collective will of the members present and voting. This includes abstention. These bodies are extremely active against Israel because human rights violations generally evoke a unison emotional response from almost all nations. Here too the voting mechanism does not require resolutions concurrent votes of the members, abstentions are generally not included in counting and not all members need to be present. This leads to resolutions with a small number of sponsors to be passed because some countries just do not care to vote because these resolutions are not binding in the first place.

One important example of this is UN General Assembly Resolution 194(III) which demanded Israel respect the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and communities following the end of fighting in 1948. This seems to be rather strange, because the Jews who settle in 1948 bought the land. So what the UN is saying…. You paid money and exchanged agreements, but you own nothing.

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Jun 4, 2015 23:45:39   #
fiatlux
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Many think that the US and Great Brittan entered into WWII to “save” the Jews in Germany and Poland. This is untrue. Fact are, the USA was natural and could care less if every last man, woman, or child who were being murdered by the millions by Germany resulted in the eradication of not just Jew but Rumi, or other “misfits.” They had bought into the propaganda produced by Henry Ford and Adolf Hitler. There was no “love” for the Jew, no rush to save them or anyone. Although the US officials had known about the murders and the camps from 1933 and the Final Solution which began in 1939, they campaigned to “Save the World form Jewish Influence” and “Save Europe from the stronghold of the Jew” and finally “Remove the rich Jewish bankers.” The same propaganda that is circulating in the USA right now.

The reason that the US entered into WWII is simple, Germany (Hitler) declared war on the US on December 11, 1941. “First he incites war, then falsifies the causes, then odiously wraps himself in a cloak of Christian hypocrisy and slowly but surely leads mankind to war,” those were the words of Hitler to the Germans on why he declared war. Hitler had already ensured Japan if they declared war against America, that Germany would also join declare war.

America often pats their own back and claim that they are the ones who liberated the Jew from the concentration camps. That is partly true, but not entirely. Russia’s Soviet forces were the first to approach a major Nazi camp, Maidanek near Lublin, Poland in July 1944. The Soviets liberated Auschwitz, the largest killing center and concentration camp, in January 1945. In the following months, the Soviets liberated additional camps in the Baltic states and in Poland. Shortly before Germany's surrender, Soviet forces liberated the Stutthof, Sachsenhausen, and Ravensbrueck concentration camps. And I give credit where credit is due. US forces liberated the Buchenwald concentration camp near Weimar, Germany, on April 11, 1945. They also liberated Dora-Mittelbau, Flossenbürg, Dachau, and Mauthausen. And it was only by hapenstance that they did. It was not part of the objective. The objective of the USA was to win the war, not save a nation.

Hang in there, you will see how this fact is played out in the creation of Israel. Now then, are you aware that the Liberals in the USA and Great Brittan were opposed to the creation of a homeland for the Jews? They fought it in as many ways they could. You see, the Liberals had accepted the propaganda put out by people like Henry Ford and Adolf Hitler. They, like many Liberals of today, saw the Jew as a parasite.

The bottom-line on this, America did not give a hoot about the Jew, German or otherwise. Brittan did not care either. Both opposed the formation of Israel. They offered zero support in the meetings with the UN. Now then Great Brittan had been looking for a way to unload the lands they acquired under the British Mandate for Palestine, or simply the Mandate for Palestine. In the event you are not familiar with this legal document, it provided for the administration of the territory that had formerly constituted the Ottoman Empire sanjaks of Nablus, Acre, the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, prior to the Armistice of Mudros. The area was a financial drain and a drain of manpower (soldiers provided security because of the constant conflicts in the area). WWI had been brutal on the British economy and the military, so unloading this region was to their best interest. When the UN suggested that this may be a great place for the Jews, and because they were already a very large presence (still) in the area, it should be divided up and the new nations would be formed. So, it began. Jews were given a green light to purchase land (from the owners) to resettle. At first, there were 800,000 and later the UN gave “permission” for another 100,000 to resettle. Now mind you, they had already established a land for the Jew, but the UN still retained immigration visas for the area.

The return of the Jews to Palesine was enthusiastically supported by British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, who -- in a surprise twist that will shock you silly -- imagined that Britain would provide "guidance" to the new nation. Which obviously had nothing to do with Britain's strategic interest in strengthening its influence in the Middle East and checking Russian designs on Afghanistan. Totally altruistic. With help from donors, a steady trickle of European Jews began to immigrate to the Southern Levant.

It is now important for the reader to learn another fact, and those who support the Palestinians will not like this fact. But, it is a historical fact borne out by archeological records. The trace of the original populace of Palestine is rather difficult but the ancient inhabitants of Palestine are known to be ancient Greeks hailed from Asia Minor and not Arabs or Semites. The location of Palestine at the crossroads to some chief civilizations like Egyptians, Babylonians and Romans made it a frequently invaded land with several people living here through the ages. Therefore, those who claim that there is no difference between the Jew and the Palestine are wrong. In fact the origin of Arabs is intermingled with several races and ethnic groups instead of a more singular line. The tradition says that Arabs come from the line of Abraham and his son Ishmael. The tribal, Bedouin society of the Arabian Desert is the birthplace of “Arab”. There are other ethnic Arab groups as well that spread in the land and existed for millennia. Before modern Arab nationalism which developed in 19th and 20th century, Arab speaking people identified themselves with a particular tribe, a village or a family.

Often it is written that the Arabs (Muslims) treated the Jew better than the Christian. And they lived with each other in a utopian society where there was respect and partnership. Okay, the Muslims did treat them better. But, better is a matter of degree. If your idea of better is that they provided protection, then yes. It was better. But, at what price? For Islam, the price the Jew paid was their subordination to Muslim law and accepting the lowest social status within the framework of the “peaceful Islamic” order. And yes, this was a step up from Christendom, where the Jew were positioned outside of protective boundaries of religious and secular law. The less “civilized” approach applied to the Jews within the domain of Christendom was based on the lack of clearly stated and divinely ordained rules toward the Jews. Thus, positioning them outside of the protection of regular law exposed them to the arbitrary decisions of unpredictable rulers. To make the contrast sharper, the Islamic “peaceful strategy” has been compared to the Ashkenazi status, as they were considered ‘outsiders’ along with ‘pagans, unbelievers, heretics, and lepers.’

The state of Israel was born in 1949, although it actually began as shown much earlier, it was recognized in 1949. And after Israel fought for their independence, President Truman approved a $135 million dollar export-import bank loan and the sale of surplus commodities to Israel. It took Israel 17 years to repay this loan, but the final installment was paid and the loan was paid in full. In 1951, Congress voted to help Israel cope with the economic burdens imposed by the influx of Jewish refugees from the displaced persons camps in Europe and from the ghettos of the Arab countries. Arabs then complained the U.S. was neglecting them, though they had no interest in or use for American aid then. In 1951, Syria rejected offers of U.S. aid. Oil-rich Iraq and Saudi Arabia did not need U.S. economic assistance, and Jordan was, until the late 1950s, the ward of Great Britain. After 1957, when the United States assumed responsibility for supporting Jordan and resumed economic aid to Egypt, assistance to the Arab states soared. Also, the United States was by far the biggest contributor of aid to the Palestinians through UNRWA, a status that continues to the present.


US economic grants to Israel ended in 1959. U.S. aid to Israel from then until 1985 consisted largely of loans, which Israel repaid, and surplus commodities, which Israel bought. Israel began buying arms from the United States in 1962, but did not receive any grant military assistance until after the 1973 Yom Kippur War. As a result, Israel had to go deeply into debt to finance its economic development and arms procurement. The decision to convert military aid to grants that year was based on the prevailing view in Congress that without a strong Israel, war in the Middle East was more likely, and that the U.S. would face higher direct expenditures in such an eventuality.

How often do you read that Israel has “violated” UN General Assembly Resolutions? Some say that they are in violation of more than 150 of these rules and still others claim 65. Regardless, what the reader needs to fully understand, Resolutions of United Nations General Assembly, UN HRC etc. are not binding. They just are a representation of the collective will of the members present and voting. This includes abstention. These bodies are extremely active against Israel because human rights violations generally evoke a unison emotional response from almost all nations. Here too the voting mechanism does not require resolutions concurrent votes of the members, abstentions are generally not included in counting and not all members need to be present. This leads to resolutions with a small number of sponsors to be passed because some countries just do not care to vote because these resolutions are not binding in the first place.

One important example of this is UN General Assembly Resolution 194(III) which demanded Israel respect the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and communities following the end of fighting in 1948. This seems to be rather strange, because the Jews who settle in 1948 bought the land. So what the UN is saying…. You paid money and exchanged agreements, but you own nothing.
Many think that the US and Great Brittan entered i... (show quote)


"Many think that the US and Great Brittan entered into WWII to “save” the Jews in Germany and Poland."
"Many" think this? I know of no one who would agree with that statement.

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Jun 5, 2015 01:48:43   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
What the hell does America's reason to fight WW2 have to do with "Faith, Religion, and Spirituality"?

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