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Mar 24, 2017 16:50:56   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...so what..why would you care and invest anymore time in studying the problem?


Mostly for just one reason. I don't want to have a one party system in this country. My concern is, if the democrat party doesn't get their 'poo' together, they will go the way of the dinosaur. I'm aware that there are at least ten other registered parties, but almost none of them have a national voice. We need opposing views/ideas in order to find compromise, a direction in which all (legal) citizens are heard.

It's not looking good for the dem party at the moment. Perhaps they need a name change, such as the 'Blue Dog Democrat' party, as suggested by Counter Revolutionary. A party made up of rational democrats; if they can separate themselves from the liberal/progressive/socialists that have glommed onto the party and tell those moonbats to start their own party, or glom onto an existing party such as CPUSA or the United Socialist party. (wh**ever they call themselves)

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Mar 24, 2017 16:57:15   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
lpnmajor wrote:
That's the problem right there, they don't NEED a leader. Every Congressional district is full of - people, who can be approached by - people. Trump didn't so as much as win, as much as Democrats lost, for backing a wounded horse. Had Clinton any decency, she would have bowed out early enough for someone else to have a shot. Democratic leadership continued to back her anyway, because she'd locked up all the big money donors during her tenure as Secretary of State. Bad move - and fatal.

Instead of "leadership" telling registered democrats what they will be "for or against", the rank and file need to take control of their own party at the county level, which will give them control at the State level and ultimately allow THEM to tell the leadership what THEY will be "for or against" - the way this was designed from the start. The wheelers and dealers have destroyed BOTH party's - and we all are suffering the consequences.
That's the problem right there, they don't NEED a ... (show quote)


I can't find any disagreement here, Doc. That's exactly what the democrat party needs to do. However, this reinforces the point that they need to get their 'poo' together. And that's done exactly as you say, grass roots efforts. That's going to take some time to put together, which is why I think the GOP will be in control for quite some time.

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Mar 24, 2017 17:12:53   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
peter11937 wrote:
Chuck Schumer wants the job and the presidency, but he would have difficulty getting R and I v**ers to go for him. Cuomo's an I***T!


Interesting suggestion, Pete. Wonder why Chucky didn't make it on the list of this silly little poll.

Agree about Cuomo, lol. He'll probably end up in jail soon enough anyway. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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Mar 24, 2017 17:37:05   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Interesting suggestion, Pete. Wonder why Chucky didn't make it on the list of this silly little poll.

Agree about Cuomo, lol. He'll probably end up in jail soon enough anyway. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘


Sure hope he is taken out of office soon, the i***t is a big wind turbine electricity fan, too myopic to research it and discover that these turbines operate at about 20 percent efficiency due to maintenance problems, changing wind conditions zero miles an hour to 100 plus miles per hour, sometimes within a 24 hour period, line surge, line loss, insurance issues, t***sformer costs and more. Yet he over looks the FACT that NYS has exceptionally extensive shale oil and gas reserves in the Marcellus and Utica deposits. An amount of reserves here to provide energy for more that the next more than two hundred years. BTW, the Marcellus has been used since 1808, yes, two hundred nine years! Utica, essentially untouched.

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Mar 24, 2017 17:48:19   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
peter11937 wrote:
Sure hope he is taken out of office soon, the i***t is a big wind turbine electricity fan, too myopic to research it and discover that these turbines operate at about 20 percent efficiency due to maintenance problems, changing wind conditions zero miles an hour to 100 plus miles per hour, sometimes within a 24 hour period, line surge, line loss, insurance issues, t***sformer costs and more. Yet he over looks the FACT that NYS has exceptionally extensive shale oil and gas reserves in the Marcellus and Utica deposits. An amount of reserves here to provide energy for more that the next more than two hundred years. BTW, the Marcellus has been used since 1808, yes, two hundred nine years! Utica, essentially untouched.
Sure hope he is taken out of office soon, the i***... (show quote)


Yeah, the poor fella is just trying to play to his base; g***n e****y good, f****l f**ls bad.

I read an article a while back that this country has more oil than the Middle East combined. The reason for not tapping into it was because we were saving it in case of WWIII. It also went on to say, that it would take about ten years to get it up and flowing, and if we started the project ten years ago, we could be energy independent for the next 800 years and today we be paying about 27 cents a gallon at the pump.

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Mar 24, 2017 18:03:04   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Yeah, the poor fella is just trying to play to his base; g***n e****y good, f****l f**ls bad.

I read an article a while back that this country has more oil than the Middle East combined. The reason for not tapping into it was because we were saving it in case of WWIII. It also went on to say, that it would take about ten years to get it up and flowing, and if we started the project ten years ago, we could be energy independent for the next 800 years and today we be paying about 27 cents a gallon at the pump.
Yeah, the poor fella is just trying to play to his... (show quote)


That's most likely a conservative view of the actual supply. Then I might want to swap my 1962 MGA Mk, 2 that gets about 35 mpg for a nice 454 CU IN muscle car that gets 12 mpg on the highway.... Political correctness will eventually k**l us all.

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Mar 24, 2017 18:46:30   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
peter11937 wrote:
That's most likely a conservative view of the actual supply. Then I might want to swap my 1962 MGA Mk, 2 that gets about 35 mpg for a nice 454 CU IN muscle car that gets 12 mpg on the highway.... Political correctness will eventually k**l us all.


Lol... if I may make a suggestion; the 1970 LS6 Chevelle.

I've been driving a Hemi 5.7 since 1993, different trucks but same engine. Before I got rid of my last one, I was getting 9.9 miles. That was expensive back when gas was almost $4 a gallon. Now I'm getting about 19 miles with gas at just over $2 a gallon.

What color is your Mk2? That's a nice little ride...

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Mar 24, 2017 18:57:39   #
Carol Kelly
 
Worried for our children wrote:
The Democratic Party has a leadership vacuum at the top, with many registered v**ers eager to see someone who is not currently on the scene become the partyโ€™s standard-bearer in 2020, according to a new Harvard-Harris Poll survey provided exclusively to The Hill.

When registered v**ers were asked whom they view as the leader of the Democratic Party, 40 percent said it has no leader.

Fifteen percent named former President Obama as the partyโ€™s leader. Twelve percent said Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who has gone out of his way not to join the Democratic Party despite running for the its p**********l nomination last year.Eleven percent view Sen. Elizabeth Warren(D-Mass.) as the partyโ€™s leader, and 10 percent answered with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the 2016 Democratic p**********l nominee.
On the question of who should be a Democratic p**********l candidate in 2020, Sanders led the field, at 14 percent, followed by former first lady Michelle Obama at 11 percent, Warren at 9 percent, Clinton at 8 percent, Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo each at 4 percent, and television personality Oprah Winfrey and Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.) each at 3 percent.

Forty-five percent said they want to see someone not on the list of possible candidates in the survey.

โ€œThere is a vacuum now in the Democratic Party in terms of leadership and a 2020 candidate, so itโ€™s the Democrats who might have a raft of candidates next time, especially if the v**ers are searching for someone new,โ€ said Harvard-Harris co-director Mark Penn.

When Clinton was taken out of the list of potential 2020 candidates, Sandersโ€™s support went up to 18 percent, followed by Michelle Obama at 14 percent and Warren at 10 percent. No other candidate received more than 4 percent support, and 44 percent of respondents said they want someone not on the list.

โ€œMichelle Obama has some potential as a future candidate if she was interested in politics,โ€ Penn said.

Barack Obama has said his wife โ€œwill never run for office,โ€ though she remains hugely popular among Democrats.

The party is in the midst of a full-scale rebuilding project after the 2016 e******ns, in which it lost control of the White House and failed to win majorities in either the House or Senate.

Democratic ranks have also faced serious defeats at the state level, where the party has lost about 1,000 legislative seats since Obama took office. Republicans control 69 of 99 legislative chambers across the country and 33 of 50 governor mansions.

Democrats took the first step in setting a new path forward last month when former Obama administration Labor Secretary Tom Perez defeated Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), a Sanders acolyte, to become chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

Still, the party lacks a consensus leader at a time when there are deep and lingering divisions between grassroots liberals and mainstream establishment Democrats.

The partisan breakdown of the Harvard-Harris survey is 37 percent Democratic, 30 percent Republican, 28 percent independent and 5 percent other.

When only Democrats are taken into account, the figures shift slightly.

Thirty-five percent of Democrats said their party has no leader. Sixteen percent picked Barack Obama or Warren as the leader, followed by Sanders at 14 percent and Clinton at 8 percent.

Twenty-five percent of Democrats said they want someone not on the pollโ€™s list of possibilities to be their p**********l candidate in 2020. Twenty percent said Sanders should be the nominee, followed by Michelle Obama at 17 percent, Warren at 15 percent, Clinton at 10 percent, Cuomo and Booker each at 4 percent, Winfrey at 3 percent and Cuban at 2 percent.

Overall, 40 percent of respondents had a favorable view of the Democratic Party, compared with 60 percent who viewed it negatively. Republicans were seen similarly, 41 percent favorable to 59 percent unfavorable.

But Republicans had a far more positive view of their own party, with 79 percent saying they had a favorable view of the GOP. Only 65 percent of Democrats had a favorable view of their own party.

Among all the registered v**ers surveyed, 46 percent said the Democratic Party is becoming more liberal, 43 percent said it is staying the same, and 11 percent said it is moving to the right. A majority of Democrats, 56 percent, said the party is staying the same, while 30 percent said it is becoming more liberal and 14 said it is becoming more conservative.

Forty-nine percent of all those surveyed said the GOP is becoming more conservative, while 36 percent said it is staying the same and 16 percent said it is becoming more liberal. Among just Republicans, 43 percent said their party is staying the same, 39 percent said it is becoming more conservative, and 19 said it is becoming more liberal.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/324903-for-democrats-no-clear-leader
The Democratic Party has a leadership vacuum at th... (show quote)


They'll want a female leader and I don't think Michelle Obama would fit the requirements.
In fact, the very idea of any of the listed makes cold chills go up my spine.

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Mar 24, 2017 19:06:54   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Lol... if I may make a suggestion; the 1970 LS6 Chevelle.

I've been driving a Hemi 5.7 since 1993, different trucks but same engine. Before I got rid of my last one, I was getting 9.9 miles. That was expensive back when gas was almost $4 a gallon. Now I'm getting about 19 miles with gas at just over $2 a gallon.

What color is your Mk2? That's a nice little ride...


MG red, original and now. It is a survivor car I bought at a Goodwill auction. It had been sitting for 10 years, needed new SU Carb gaskets, drained, cleaned and sealed gas tank , clutch freed from the pressure plate and front caliper was stuck. Typical of some Brit cars that sit, I freed a stuck engine and clutch on a TR-250 with Marvel Mystery Oil in the cyl. bores, then a long breaker at on the balance wheel back and forth until it turned, then got it running with new G series spark plugs, then started it and pushed the clutch in and out while in second until the clutch freed up with a big BAMG!, then got down to restore only to discover that the frame was too badly rusted to save, so I plunked the engine-t***s into a TR-6 I got cheap with a blown engine. Worked great. Sold it a net profit, then sold the GTR-6 engine separately....
One of my errors was not buying a European new model VW Ghia offered to me for $150,,,,,all that was wrong was a stuck valve,,,,,

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Mar 24, 2017 20:47:30   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Worried for our children wrote:
The Democratic Party has a leadership vacuum at the top


I couldn't agree more. It's not just the leadership, though. Anyone who buys into what they're peddling is also suffering from a similar vacuum. The good news is that there is a simple observational test for identifying them. Simply look directly into one ear and if there's daylight getting through from the other side, you found one. Once identified, I suggest you place a big 'D' on their forehead in indelible pen and move on. Best not to talk or interact with them, they are very unstable and likely to violently erupt at the possibility that you are providing logical conversation. They see common sense and plain logic as existential threats.

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Mar 24, 2017 21:00:28   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
archie bunker wrote:
They have been reduced to a bunch of poo slinging primates.


That is what I have been calling Monkey Boy Progressive one for a loooong time!

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Mar 24, 2017 21:21:06   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
I couldn't agree more. It's not just the leadership, though. Anyone who buys into what they're peddling is also suffering from a similar vacuum. The good news is that there is a simple observational test for identifying them. Simply look directly into one ear and if there's daylight getting through from the other side, you found one. Once identified, I suggest you place a big 'D' on their forehead in indelible pen and move on. Best not to talk or interact with them, they are very unstable and likely to violently erupt at the possibility that you are providing logical conversation. They see common sense and plain logic as existential threats.
I couldn't agree more. It's not just the leadersh... (show quote)


Lol. Funny stuff, Larry. I appreciate humor in a thread. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

As to your last; we can't leave out micro-aggressions...๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Mar 24, 2017 21:44:50   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
peter11937 wrote:
The Russian connection is Hillary and Uranium ONE, She cleaned up to the tune of millions of dollars. Pres. Trump has no connection with Russia. https://www.infowars.com/clinton-foundation-key-to-giving-putin-20-of-us-uranium/


Did you see the cartoon next to this article on the Clinton Foundation facilitating Putin's uranium deal? Talk about the Russian connection; let's talk about the Bilderberg connection:


https://static.infowars.com/politicalsidebarimage/rockeheller_large.jpg

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Mar 24, 2017 22:07:34   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Lol. Funny stuff, Larry. I appreciate humor in a thread. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

As to your last; we can't leave out micro-aggressions...๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚


Ah, yes: Micro-aggression, the casual degradation of any socially marginalized group, such as the poor and the disabled. I see your point. I'll try and keep it under wraps then, I guess...

But it's FUN!

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Mar 24, 2017 22:28:00   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Ah, yes: Micro-aggression, the casual degradation of any socially marginalized group, such as the poor and the disabled. I see your point. I'll try and keep it under wraps then, I guess...

But it's FUN!


Never let a dago by.!

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