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Jan 7, 2014 07:38:43   #
Liberty Tree
 
How long should some be allowed to collect unemployment?

A. Three months

B. Six months

C. One year

D Forever

Explain your answer

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Jan 7, 2014 07:55:17   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
How long should some be allowed to collect unemployment?

A. Three months

B. Six months

C. One year

D Forever

Explain your answer


My answer is never

The unemployment tax is
paid by employers.When an ex employee collects, the emploter's rate goes up.

So my question is"why should a company be required to pay for a person who is no longer its employee?

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Jan 7, 2014 10:11:49   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
I would say: 6 months. Seems to me that that is long enough to either find a job in one's locale or move to another locale to find one.

I DO think more support from the government (federal or state) to help people find or train for employment would be appropriate and would probably save some of the money being paid out. I think that pretty much universally about all government programs: invest however much it takes to weed out the fraud and abuse. I think there is enough of that going on in all government programs that vast amounts can be saved by ensuring that the funds go to those for whom the program was intended, not for frauds and abusers.

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Jan 7, 2014 10:20:44   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
That's a tough question. Never having been unemployed, was willing to do anything including cleaning s**t houses by hand (shovel). I think six months is long enough.


Liberty Tree wrote:
How long should some be allowed to collect unemployment?

A. Three months

B. Six months

C. One year

D Forever

Explain your answer

Reply
Jan 7, 2014 10:55:01   #
smokinstar
 
3 months because even before 3 months you begin to lose your sk**ls & begin to get used to not working. It is hard to go find work when you are getting a free check. Also most people don't start seriously looking for work until their unemployment is about to expire. I know this because I've known a lot of people, including family, on unemployment. There are many ways to make it look like you are looking for work when you really aren't. One of these ways is going through the phone book & listing businesses as places you went to seek work when you did not. Another way is to send out resumes then reporting that they weren't accepting resumes because they weren't hiring. There are many ways to con the system.

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Jan 7, 2014 11:03:22   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
How long should some be allowed to collect unemployment?

A. Three months

B. Six months

C. One year

D Forever

Explain your answer



I worked for 50 plus years and never got a penny, just paid.
I guess I screwed up, should have quit and filled. NOT
The more you give them they more thet want.

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Jan 7, 2014 11:32:24   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
cold iron wrote:
I worked for 50 plus years and never got a penny, just paid.
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Employers pay 100% of the unemployment tax except in two states where employees pay a small portion of it.

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Jan 7, 2014 11:41:44   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
hprinze wrote:
Employers pay 100% of the unemployment tax except in two states where employees pay a small portion of it.


Not true, I own and ran a few companys and I the owner paid and my employes paid as well. This was in a few states.

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Jan 7, 2014 11:43:25   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
For the life of me I can't imagine 99 weeks with no job, who would want to return to work after that long off?


smokinstar wrote:
3 months because even before 3 months you begin to lose your sk**ls & begin to get used to not working. It is hard to go find work when you are getting a free check. Also most people don't start seriously looking for work until their unemployment is about to expire. I know this because I've known a lot of people, including family, on unemployment. There are many ways to make it look like you are looking for work when you really aren't. One of these ways is going through the phone book & listing businesses as places you went to seek work when you did not. Another way is to send out resumes then reporting that they weren't accepting resumes because they weren't hiring. There are many ways to con the system.
3 months because even before 3 months you begin to... (show quote)

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Jan 7, 2014 11:50:35   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
I would say: 6 months. Seems to me that that is long enough to either find a job in one's locale or move to another locale to find one.

I DO think more support from the government (federal or state) to help people find or train for employment would be appropriate and would probably save some of the money being paid out. I think that pretty much universally about all government programs: invest however much it takes to weed out the fraud and abuse. I think there is enough of that going on in all government programs that vast amounts can be saved by ensuring that the funds go to those for whom the program was intended, not for frauds and abusers.
I would say: 6 months. Seems to me that that is ... (show quote)


How do you propose the individual pay for their relocation to a new area to seek employment?

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Jan 7, 2014 11:54:06   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
cold iron wrote:
Not true, I own and ran a few companys and I the owner paid and my employes paid as well. This was in a few states.




I have been a small business owner for over a half century. The employer pays 100% of the unemployment tax except in rwo states where the employees pay a small portion of it.

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Jan 7, 2014 12:03:31   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
How long should some be allowed to collect unemployment?

A. Three months

B. Six months

C. One year

D Forever

Explain your answer


The current standard in all states is six months and has been for for many years. Employer's pay a tax into each state's fund. An individual is not guaranteed unemployment in all instances. Every state requires individuals to be actively engaged in applying for jobs every week. There are periodic reviews of claims requiring an individual provide the name, date, position applied for, who they directly applied with, and it is then verified by the unemployment office. Those receiving extended unemployment benefits are required to attend a course on application completion, interviewing sk**ls, resume creation, appearance, etc. I could get really in depth on this, having managed the second largest unemployment office in Virginia for quite a length of time as well as Congressional liaison and DOL interface. I truly do not think anyone wants the minutia of unemployment laws.

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Jan 7, 2014 12:51:54   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
AuntiE wrote:
How do you propose the individual pay for their relocation to a new area to seek employment?


I agree with RetCWO on the six months max part, but not on new government training programs.

As for who should pay for a job seeker's relocation, it should be paid by the jobs seeker, or their new employer providing they provide that benefit. I don't see why we the taxpayer should pay for their relocation. I have relocated several times while seeking new employment, and have paid for it out of my own pocket each time except my first job out of the Navy with Hughes Aircraft, they picked up what the Navy didn't pay for in my separation move.

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Jan 7, 2014 13:01:47   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
OldSchool wrote:
I agree with RetCWO on the six months max part, but not on new government training programs.

As for who should pay for a job seeker's relocation, it should be paid by the jobs seeker, or their new employer providing they provide that benefit. I don't see why we the taxpayer should pay for their relocation. I have relocated several times while seeking new employment, and have paid for it out of my own pocket each time except my first job out of the Navy with Hughes Aircraft, they picked up what the Navy didn't pay for in my separation move.
I agree with RetCWO on the six months max part, bu... (show quote)


My point was the unemployed person may not be in a financial position to relocate. NOWHERE did I say anyone (taxpayers) should pay for a relocation. Employers paying relocation for new hires has become passé. You have to have a really specialized sk**l to obtain such a benefit.

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Jan 7, 2014 13:03:24   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
AuntiE wrote:
The current standard in all states is six months and has been for for many years. Employer's pay a tax into each state's fund. An individual is not guaranteed unemployment in all instances. Every state requires individuals to be actively engaged in applying for jobs every week. There are periodic reviews of claims requiring an individual provide the name, date, position applied for, who they directly applied with, and it is then verified by the unemployment office. Those receiving extended unemployment benefits are required to attend a course on application completion, interviewing sk**ls, resume creation, appearance, etc. I could get really in depth on this, having managed the second largest unemployment office in Virginia for quite a length of time as well as Congressional liaison and DOL interface. I truly do not think anyone wants the minutia of unemployment laws.
The current standard in all states is six months a... (show quote)


That's the way it's supposed to be, but there are many, many deadbeats, who have no intention of working, drawing and the government employees who dole out the money are doing a pitiful job of vetting the applocants.

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