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Jan 4, 2014 04:00:30   #
rumitoid
 
The title does not mean that Conservatives never question or are incapable of questioning; it only means their concerns are more fixed on preserving (conserving) the status quo they see as supporting traditionally accepted ideals and morals. A Liberal questions everything. For many, that aspect of a Liberal is enough to condemn that person. The Conservative sees most things of longstanding as above both question and change: it is as things were and should be forever. A Liberal will see this as a closed mind, the worst possible sin or flaw imaginable. How can we advance when there are those who cling adamantly to the past? (I am still being somewhat polite in outlining these differences.)

It appears to breakdown into looking forward and looking back, but that is far too simplistic. What is for the ultimate good of mankind and works optimally for the overall best interest of humanity is a reasoned mix of the two views. With that, we get the Big Picture and workable options that demand open dialogue and compromise to bring forth a solution that does not malign, oppress, or ignore the concerns of either side. An acceptable give and take, which has been, through speed bumps, the eventual outcome of much debate and revised policies.

It seems many voices on the Right want to forsake this democratic reality and opt for secession or r*******n. It reminds me of a line from "Amadeus": "too many words." I see this trend perhaps too seriously: it is not only lazy and irresponsible but p***eful and anti-American. "Parting company" as one thread suggested, ever so amicably, means the utter destruction of America and its ideals and our way of life and all our freedoms. Total insanity or clever plan?

The complaint that Obama has weakened us globally goes to the Right's unrelenting attacks. Granted, he is not a great president. Also granted, he was barely given a chance to do anything by a 2008 pledge of obstruction by the Right. Let's forget those points. What is of real importance? Freedom plain and simple: ours, most assuredly, and spreading this to the world so that we may all live in peace, happiness, and security. What is in the way of this great ideal? Egos on the Right and Left.

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Jan 4, 2014 04:36:32   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
rumitoid wrote:
The title does not mean that Conservatives never question or are incapable of questioning; it only means their concerns are more fixed on preserving (conserving) the status quo they see as supporting traditionally accepted ideals and morals. A Liberal questions everything. For many, that aspect of a Liberal is enough to condemn that person. The Conservative sees most things of longstanding as above both question and change: it is as things were and should be forever. A Liberal will see this as a closed mind, the worst possible sin or flaw imaginable. How can we advance when there are those who cling adamantly to the past? (I am still being somewhat polite in outlining these differences.)

It appears to breakdown into looking forward and looking back, but that is far too simplistic. What is for the ultimate good of mankind and works optimally for the overall best interest of humanity is a reasoned mix of the two views. With that, we get the Big Picture and workable options that demand open dialogue and compromise to bring forth a solution that does not malign, oppress, or ignore the concerns of either side. An acceptable give and take, which has been, through speed bumps, the eventual outcome of much debate and revised policies.

It seems many voices on the Right want to forsake this democratic reality and opt for secession or r*******n. It reminds me of a line from "Amadeus": "too many words." I see this trend perhaps too seriously: it is not only lazy and irresponsible but p***eful and anti-American. "Parting company" as one thread suggested, ever so amicably, means the utter destruction of America and its ideals and our way of life and all our freedoms. Total insanity or clever plan?

The complaint that Obama has weakened us globally goes to the Right's unrelenting attacks. Granted, he is not a great president. Also granted, he was barely given a chance to do anything by a 2008 pledge of obstruction by the Right. Let's forget those points. What is of real importance? Freedom plain and simple: ours, most assuredly, and spreading this to the world so that we may all live in peace, happiness, and security. What is in the way of this great ideal? Egos on the Right and Left.
The title does not mean that Conservatives never q... (show quote)


That was the best article & the most accurate that ever heard. You nailed it right on the head .great job.

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Jan 4, 2014 04:50:54   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Couldn't seem to get sleepy so decided to read over some more posts. It's working (lol). Thought I would comment a bit on your post here.
This country, as well as the world, has to have people of difference of opinion and beliefs. If not, we would all be the same and no reason to be here other than to idly exist.
Some are very passionate about what they believe in, and don't like change when it falls into the old saying "if it's not broken, don't fix it." Time does not have any baring on something that works. I guess this is what you are calling Conservatism?
The need to bring in big change comes only from a person whose ego tells them they can do better, and improve on something already working. As we see, all chaos breaks lose when change is based on someone's selfish Ego and selfish desire to be Elevated in peoples eyes.

The biggest change to be taking place is that our country is being sold off by Government, piece by piece, to other countries- behind its citizens backs. In reality, America is barely ours anymore.
So the bigger the problem becomes, the smaller people disagreeing with each other becomes, and the more united we become in stopping and fixing that great big problem as it effects all- in all our various thought processes.

Our Government bows to it's holders, and we are left to squabble over its little side shows amongst our selves? I think not! Wake up everyone to see the ever growing bigger problem that effects us all.

Seems to me that there are bigger fish to fry than just not seeing eye to eye.
Really sleepy now, good-night.
rumitoid wrote:
The title does not mean that Conservatives never question or are incapable of questioning; it only means their concerns are more fixed on preserving (conserving) the status quo they see as supporting traditionally accepted ideals and morals. A Liberal questions everything. For many, that aspect of a Liberal is enough to condemn that person. The Conservative sees most things of longstanding as above both question and change: it is as things were and should be forever. A Liberal will see this as a closed mind, the worst possible sin or flaw imaginable. How can we advance when there are those who cling adamantly to the past? (I am still being somewhat polite in outlining these differences.)

It appears to breakdown into looking forward and looking back, but that is far too simplistic. What is for the ultimate good of mankind and works optimally for the overall best interest of humanity is a reasoned mix of the two views. With that, we get the Big Picture and workable options that demand open dialogue and compromise to bring forth a solution that does not malign, oppress, or ignore the concerns of either side. An acceptable give and take, which has been, through speed bumps, the eventual outcome of much debate and revised policies.

It seems many voices on the Right want to forsake this democratic reality and opt for secession or r*******n. It reminds me of a line from "Amadeus": "too many words." I see this trend perhaps too seriously: it is not only lazy and irresponsible but p***eful and anti-American. "Parting company" as one thread suggested, ever so amicably, means the utter destruction of America and its ideals and our way of life and all our freedoms. Total insanity or clever plan?

The complaint that Obama has weakened us globally goes to the Right's unrelenting attacks. Granted, he is not a great president. Also granted, he was barely given a chance to do anything by a 2008 pledge of obstruction by the Right. Let's forget those points. What is of real importance? Freedom plain and simple: ours, most assuredly, and spreading this to the world so that we may all live in peace, happiness, and security. What is in the way of this great ideal? Egos on the Right and Left.
The title does not mean that Conservatives never q... (show quote)

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Jan 4, 2014 06:58:24   #
Donmac Loc: Lincoln, RI
 
Breaking the law, lying, bowing to our known enemies of other countries, bowing to anyone other than God is reprehensible.
All this for the sake of "change"? Who's change? Who thinks this sort of activity promotes a better country? Why isn't the respect due to what has worked respected and preserved?
One's viewpoint because of race, religion, or politics can be respected without destroying a foundation that people have fought and died and are dying for daily today needs the respect deserved. My thoughts, my opinion.

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Jan 4, 2014 08:42:55   #
beetleshack
 
What people on the Right don't want to forsake, is the Constitution as a "Legal Contract", to be changed only by amendment. It is not a "Living Document",whose meaning can be changed at the whim of current feeling.
This provision of the constitution protects both liberals and conservatives. Amazing how those old guys were able to think of this "compromise".
Just call me,
Attila

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Jan 4, 2014 10:13:54   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
beetleshack wrote:
What people on the Right don't want to forsake, is the Constitution as a "Legal Contract", to be changed only by amendment. It is not a "Living Document",whose meaning can be changed at the whim of current feeling.
This provision of the constitution protects both liberals and conservatives. Amazing how those old guys were able to think of this "compromise".
Just call me,
Attila

The original constitutional , has not been adheres to sense the first amendment was added. so now what's the point ? You think it needs a thousand more amendments ? I think the best mechanic ,only open's the hood of car. Then should ,check the water & oil,then close it. If was running good before.leave it alone.But everyone in Washington listens to everyone that comes along. but some things do need changed from time to time. you said call me , if i thought that would solve all the problems . I would but your opinion just might. & I talk to my representatives .& they are on both sides of the isle . None of then are dumb, & they are still working on the problems at this time . I think we need to give them a chance.

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Jan 4, 2014 10:31:25   #
cstevens1994
 
So we don't question Obamacare, or any of the lies of Obama or Obama's many skirtings of the Constitutional restrictions put on the power of the President's office?

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Jan 4, 2014 10:39:54   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
rumitoid wrote:
The title does not mean that Conservatives never question or are incapable of questioning; it only means their concerns are more fixed on preserving (conserving) the status quo they see as supporting traditionally accepted ideals and morals. A Liberal questions everything. For many, that aspect of a Liberal is enough to condemn that person. The Conservative sees most things of longstanding as above both question and change: it is as things were and should be forever. A Liberal will see this as a closed mind, the worst possible sin or flaw imaginable. How can we advance when there are those who cling adamantly to the past? (I am still being somewhat polite in outlining these differences.)

It appears to breakdown into looking forward and looking back, but that is far too simplistic. What is for the ultimate good of mankind and works optimally for the overall best interest of humanity is a reasoned mix of the two views. With that, we get the Big Picture and workable options that demand open dialogue and compromise to bring forth a solution that does not malign, oppress, or ignore the concerns of either side. An acceptable give and take, which has been, through speed bumps, the eventual outcome of much debate and revised policies.

It seems many voices on the Right want to forsake this democratic reality and opt for secession or r*******n. It reminds me of a line from "Amadeus": "too many words." I see this trend perhaps too seriously: it is not only lazy and irresponsible but p***eful and anti-American. "Parting company" as one thread suggested, ever so amicably, means the utter destruction of America and its ideals and our way of life and all our freedoms. Total insanity or clever plan?

The complaint that Obama has weakened us globally goes to the Right's unrelenting attacks. Granted, he is not a great president. Also granted, he was barely given a chance to do anything by a 2008 pledge of obstruction by the Right. Let's forget those points. What is of real importance? Freedom plain and simple: ours, most assuredly, and spreading this to the world so that we may all live in peace, happiness, and security. What is in the way of this great ideal? Egos on the Right and Left.
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TOTAL COMPLETE LEFT-WING BULLS**T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jan 4, 2014 11:30:48   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
cstevens1994 wrote:
So we don't question Obamacare, or any of the lies of Obama or Obama's many skirtings of the Constitutional restrictions put on the power of the President's office?


I only know about the about the Representatives from my state & he is not one of them. Question him ,Absolutely yes.

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Jan 4, 2014 13:01:29   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
OldSchool wrote:
TOTAL COMPLETE LEFT-WING BULLS**T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not to ruin "your" day, but I think you just really confirmed his hypothesis here!!

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Jan 4, 2014 14:05:14   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
rumitoid wrote:
The title does not mean that Conservatives never question or are incapable of questioning; it only means their concerns are more fixed on preserving (conserving) the status quo they see as supporting traditionally accepted ideals and morals. A Liberal questions everything. For many, that aspect of a Liberal is enough to condemn that person. The Conservative sees most things of longstanding as above both question and change: it is as things were and should be forever. A Liberal will see this as a closed mind, the worst possible sin or flaw imaginable. How can we advance when there are those who cling adamantly to the past? (I am still being somewhat polite in outlining these differences.)

It appears to breakdown into looking forward and looking back, but that is far too simplistic. What is for the ultimate good of mankind and works optimally for the overall best interest of humanity is a reasoned mix of the two views. With that, we get the Big Picture and workable options that demand open dialogue and compromise to bring forth a solution that does not malign, oppress, or ignore the concerns of either side. An acceptable give and take, which has been, through speed bumps, the eventual outcome of much debate and revised policies.

It seems many voices on the Right want to forsake this democratic reality and opt for secession or r*******n. It reminds me of a line from "Amadeus": "too many words." I see this trend perhaps too seriously: it is not only lazy and irresponsible but p***eful and anti-American. "Parting company" as one thread suggested, ever so amicably, means the utter destruction of America and its ideals and our way of life and all our freedoms. Total insanity or clever plan?

The complaint that Obama has weakened us globally goes to the Right's unrelenting attacks. Granted, he is not a great president. Also granted, he was barely given a chance to do anything by a 2008 pledge of obstruction by the Right. Let's forget those points. What is of real importance? Freedom plain and simple: ours, most assuredly, and spreading this to the world so that we may all live in peace, happiness, and security. What is in the way of this great ideal? Egos on the Right and Left.
The title does not mean that Conservatives never q... (show quote)



That is your biased opinion, it is inaccurate, it is stereotyping. and somewhat insulting. ("Conserve" and "preserve" are synonyms, creating a redundancy.) You can't look in a dictionary, and arbitrarily declare that its definition of "conservative" captures the personalities and aspirations of millions of people.

Those who label themselves conservative and traditionalists are all forward looking, to varying degrees. They look forward to a world their progeny; children, grandchildren and great grandchildren will inherit, with concern, because they possess one attribute you neglected to mention: common sense.

They, however, unlike Liberals, are unwilling to let go of their God, Who does not change, and their religious beliefs, based on that God's Revelation to man, contained in His Holy Scriptures, which do not change.

The sacredness of human life is not negotiable.

This is a quality Liberals/Progressives/C*******ts fail to obtain or even recognize. Those I have encountered have such an "open mind," their knowledge and appreciation of the values and virtues from the past that have preserved all that is worthwhile in life, have slipped away, discarded from a lack of wisdom.

Capitalism has been proven to work - by History.
C*******m has been proven to NOT work - by History.

Conservatives question no less than Liberals; they, however, are able to determine what is t***h, what has eternal value, and what, among a myriad of new inventions, new philosophies and new lifestyles, are worth pursuing, and they are able to do so without the need for endless conversations.

A Liberal believes that if he is engaged in discussions with others, whether foe or friend, then all is resolved.
His task is completed, it is not required for him to actually accomplish anything, to repair anything, or to build anything. Just talk it to death, wh**ever it is.

Liberals, however, never compromise on their ideology. That is the duty of the Conservative, which is not compromise at all, it is total surrender, and if they fail to comply, they are labeled "obstructionists."

That is the difference between conservatives and liberals.

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Jan 4, 2014 15:21:52   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Wow Zemirah, I'm stunned! Your comment was amazing and completely right-on. I'm not just stunned, but left speechless by your Wisdom. I doubt there is much else left to be said on this post, as you said it all very very well. Thank you!
Zemirah wrote:
That is your biased opinion, it is inaccurate, it is stereotyping. and somewhat insulting. ("Conserve" and "preserve" are synonyms, creating a redundancy.) You can't look in a dictionary, and arbitrarily declare that its definition of "conservative" captures the personalities and aspirations of millions of people.

Those who label themselves conservative and traditionalists are all forward looking, to varying degrees. They look forward to a world their progeny; children, grandchildren and great grandchildren will inherit, with concern, because they possess one attribute you neglected to mention: common sense.

They, however, unlike Liberals, are unwilling to let go of their God, Who does not change, and their religious beliefs, based on that God's Revelation to man, contained in His Holy Scriptures, which do not change.

The sacredness of human life is not negotiable.

This is a quality Liberals/Progressives/C*******ts fail to obtain or even recognize. Those I have encountered have such an "open mind," their knowledge and appreciation of the values and virtues from the past that have preserved all that is worthwhile in life, have slipped away, discarded from a lack of wisdom.

Capitalism has been proven to work - by History.
C*******m has been proven to NOT work - by History.

Conservatives question no less than Liberals; they, however, are able to determine what is t***h, what has eternal value, and what, among a myriad of new inventions, new philosophies and new lifestyles, are worth pursuing, and they are able to do so without the need for endless conversations.

A Liberal believes that if he is engaged in discussions with others, whether foe or friend, then all is resolved.
His task is completed, it is not required for him to actually accomplish anything, to repair anything, or to build anything. Just talk it to death, wh**ever it is.

Liberals, however, never compromise on their ideology. That is the duty of the Conservative, which is not compromise at all, it is total surrender, and if they fail to comply, they are labeled "obstructionists."

That is the difference between conservatives and liberals.
That is your biased opinion, it is inaccurate, it ... (show quote)

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Jan 4, 2014 23:23:27   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
rhomin57 wrote:
Wow Zemirah, I'm stunned! Your comment was amazing and completely right-on. I'm not just stunned, but left speechless by your Wisdom. I doubt there is much else left to be said on this post, as you said it all very very well. Thank you!


Thanks, Rhomin, I really like your Avatar.

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Jan 5, 2014 00:26:52   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Searching wrote:
Not to ruin "your" day, but I think you just really confirmed his hypothesis here!!


Ya think?!? :wink: :mrgreen:

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Jan 5, 2014 14:05:28   #
ElAku
 
rumitoid wrote:
The title does not mean that Conservatives never question or are incapable of questioning; it only means their concerns are more fixed on preserving (conserving) the status quo they see as supporting traditionally accepted ideals and morals. A Liberal questions everything. For many, that aspect of a Liberal is enough to condemn that person. The Conservative sees most things of longstanding as above both question and change: it is as things were and should be forever. A Liberal will see this as a closed mind, the worst possible sin or flaw imaginable. How can we advance when there are those who cling adamantly to the past? (I am still being somewhat polite in outlining these differences.)

It appears to breakdown into looking forward and looking back, but that is far too simplistic. What is for the ultimate good of mankind and works optimally for the overall best interest of humanity is a reasoned mix of the two views. With that, we get the Big Picture and workable options that demand open dialogue and compromise to bring forth a solution that does not malign, oppress, or ignore the concerns of either side. An acceptable give and take, which has been, through speed bumps, the eventual outcome of much debate and revised policies.

It seems many voices on the Right want to forsake this democratic reality and opt for secession or r*******n. It reminds me of a line from "Amadeus": "too many words." I see this trend perhaps too seriously: it is not only lazy and irresponsible but p***eful and anti-American. "Parting company" as one thread suggested, ever so amicably, means the utter destruction of America and its ideals and our way of life and all our freedoms. Total insanity or clever plan?

The complaint that Obama has weakened us globally goes to the Right's unrelenting attacks. Granted, he is not a great president. Also granted, he was barely given a chance to do anything by a 2008 pledge of obstruction by the Right. Let's forget those points. What is of real importance? Freedom plain and simple: ours, most assuredly, and spreading this to the world so that we may all live in peace, happiness, and security. What is in the way of this great ideal? Egos on the Right and Left.
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It's obvious YOU don't know or understand one damned iota of either liberals or conservatives.

Did you glean all this milquetoast from a breakfast cereal box - or are you actually that stupid?

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