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Jan 3, 2014 09:31:40   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
The real problem is we need to quit electing , and start appointing people to run our Country.Any realistic person could do better. you know like common sense.

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Jan 3, 2014 10:07:09   #
Mr Bill
 
Need to do something. Some of those congressmen and senators have been there for decades. John McCain, Harry Reid, are you listening?

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Jan 3, 2014 11:00:13   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
GEM lucas wrote:
The real problem is we need to quit electing , and start appointing people to run our Country.Any realistic person could do better. you know like common sense.


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There was a law back it the late 90's, but our supremer court said it was unconstitutional...and now that same court has two more very liberal members. Only way to make a law is via a constitutional convention, and that scares me.

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Jan 3, 2014 11:20:17   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
Mr Bill wrote:
Need to do something. Some of those congressmen and senators have been there for decades. John McCain, Harry Reid, are you listening?


Like I said i it's a sad situation .I would rather appoint a dummy then elect a dummy. at least we could fire them & that would not take an act of congress. hire a new dummy same day. not much of a chance of running out of candidates . It worked well for me in my business. I'm not pointing the finger at anyone . I'm talking from the top down.Not the bottom up

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Jan 3, 2014 11:42:36   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
If the day ever comes that American v**ers pay attention to who they v**e for a lot of the problem will go away. I'm not holding my breath.

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Jan 3, 2014 12:02:39   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
cold iron wrote:
If the day ever comes that American v**ers pay attention to who they v**e for a lot of the problem will go away. I'm not holding my breath.


It's very hard to pick a right guy every time , & i'm not leaving this country. ITS MINE TO .All they do is make new laws ,and someone always gets the shaft. Guess who that is . You got it people like you and me , every time.

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Jan 3, 2014 12:14:29   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
GEM lucas wrote:
It's very hard to pick a right guy every time , & i'm not leaving this country. ITS MINE TO .All they do is make new laws ,and someone always gets the shaft. Guess who that is . You got it people like you and me , every time.



It only took me one day using the internet to find out what Obama was/is. If "we the people" just do a little work at it our country will flourish. Sadly we pick the our leaders by there smile, or jokes they tell. Do that will put the joke on us.

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Jan 3, 2014 12:42:13   #
Not-a-RINO Loc: Michigan
 
cold iron wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

There was a law back it the late 90's, but our supremer court said it was unconstitutional...and now that same court has two more very liberal members. Only way to make a law is via a constitutional convention, and that scares me.


Agreed. While there would be a chance for some very good changes to reduce the scope and size of the federal government to intrusion on our liberties, it also opens a Pandora's box to people without honor, decency and common sense.

The greatest chance of making this happen without a constitutional convention is to wake people up to the t***h. Educate them. Show them what is happening to their way of life through asinine regulations (such as toilet design, incandescent light bulbs, higher taxes, etc.). Show them how government should be the servant of the people, not the master. I say this because the Left has worked so hard to dumb people down and indoctrinate them with Progressive B.S. The only way this tide will turn is to patiently teach people why being an engaged American citizen matters. If we can't do this, then someday the rest of America will look like their Utopian icon, Detroit - bankrupt, high unemployment, deplorable schools, high illegitimacy, drugs, gangs, shootings, blight, government dependence (the Democrat Plantation), corruption, misery and more.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/haunting-ayn-rand-described-detroits-collapse-60-years-ago

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Jan 3, 2014 12:46:55   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
cold iron wrote:
If the day ever comes that American v**ers pay attention to who they v**e for a lot of the problem will go away. I'm not holding my breath.


You know i had a lot of stupid ideas when i was a kid, but i instilled only the good ones in my kids. It made better kids out of them, I never engaged in anything that they couldn't do also . If it wasn't good for all of us we didn't do it . they all turned out great

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Jan 3, 2014 13:17:08   #
Not-a-RINO Loc: Michigan
 
GEM lucas wrote:
You know i had a lot of stupid ideas when i was a kid, but i instilled only the good ones in my kids. It made better kids out of them, I never engaged in anything that they couldn't do also . If it wasn't good for all of us we didn't do it . they all turned out great


We used to homeschool our boys and when they got into the latter grades, we would talk about the issues of the day. One thing I always told them was, "Don't tell me what you think I want to hear - I want to know what you think. Who knows? Maybe I could learn something from you!" This did something for my boys which is lacking in too many schools today:

1. It encourages them to be aware of what is going on
2. It validates the notion they are entitled to their own opinions
3. In the give and take of a discussion, no one is required to agree on anything. However, during this discussion, passion is all right as long as respect doesn't take a back seat to it.
4. It piques interest of various topics in which they would do more research.

My one son, a college grad now, backed Ron Paul and tried to get me on his bandwagon. Oh, I can tell you the discussions were going pretty heavy (I am a solid conservative Republican and a member of the Executive Committee of the local party), but neither of us let things get out of hand. I was extremely proud, although I disagreed with some of the things he claimed, that he did his own research, formed his own opinions and was willing to stand up for them.

My youngest son is in the USAF and a rock solid conservative who is willing to stand toe-to-toe with any liberal twit. He, too, does his homework and speaks his mind.

Do you think our country could stand if people started thinking for themselves? It would be refreshing, wouldn't it?

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Jan 3, 2014 13:21:06   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
cold iron wrote:
It only took me one day using the internet to find out what Obama was/is. If "we the people" just do a little work at it our country will flourish. Sadly we pick the our leaders by there smile, or jokes they tell. Do that will put the joke on us.


I just finished a survey on the Gay rights issue .what a mess .You give someone a inch then they want a mile. Man & woman. & i didn't need a bible for that. Just common sense. Even our leaders sometimes don't .

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Jan 3, 2014 13:34:03   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
Not-a-RINO wrote:
We used to homeschool our boys and when they got into the latter grades, we would talk about the issues of the day. One thing I always told them was, "Don't tell me what you think I want to hear - I want to know what you think. Who knows? Maybe I could learn something from you!" This did something for my boys which is lacking in too many schools today:

1. It encourages them to be aware of what is going on
2. It validates the notion they are entitled to their own opinions
3. In the give and take of a discussion, no one is required to agree on anything. However, during this discussion, passion is all right as long as respect doesn't take a back seat to it.
4. It piques interest of various topics in which they would do more research.

My one son, a college grad now, backed Ron Paul and tried to get me on his bandwagon. Oh, I can tell you the discussions were going pretty heavy (I am a solid conservative Republican and a member of the Executive Committee of the local party), but neither of us let things get out of hand. I was extremely proud, although I disagreed with some of the things he claimed, that he did his own research, formed his own opinions and was willing to stand up for them.

My youngest son is in the USAF and a rock solid conservative who is willing to stand toe-to-toe with any liberal twit. He, too, does his homework and speaks his mind.

Do you think our country could stand if people started thinking for themselves? It would be refreshing, wouldn't it?
We used to homeschool our boys and when they got i... (show quote)

Sounds like your kids have it together .I always tell my kids , engage brain before engaging mouth. works very well.

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Jan 4, 2014 06:39:04   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
"Term limits" can be accomplished. All one would have to do is get a majority of the House and Senate to v**e it in. LOL!! The concept of term limits has been brought up by one or two members of Congress, but of course the rest of them don't even want to think about it! They think of it as "cutting their own throats" in terms of "power". Many of those politicians never had a "real job". The founders of this country never meant for Senators and Representatives to be in office for life! "Common people" were supposed to "serve" their government for one "term" and then go back to their farm or job and let someone else "serve". Now, politicians want to get "elected to their career". Most of them love the money and "power" they hold over "common people". It's like getting addicted to drugs, except they get rich and are exempt from the laws they make of everyone else. The way to get "term limits" is to make them abide by the same laws and regulations they set for everyone else. However, the chances of doing that are about the same as getting them to agree to "term limits": slim and none. The real problem is that they v**e and make their own laws to govern themselves. The "servant of the people" concept goes away as soon as they are elected. Unfortunately, it's not all of them, but definitely most of them get the "I'm above the common people" syndrome.
Just my opinion.

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Jan 4, 2014 11:02:09   #
taijean
 
YEAH.. I AM LISTENING.. AND I AGREE... ADD TO THAT LIST- PELOSI, MCONNELL AND ABOUT 200 MORE... THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A GOOD BEGINNING...
Mr Bill wrote:
Need to do something. Some of those congressmen and senators have been there for decades. John McCain, Harry Reid, are you listening?

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Jan 4, 2014 11:50:08   #
stan3186
 
Not-a-RINO wrote:
We used to homeschool our boys and when they got into the latter grades, we would talk about the issues of the day. One thing I always told them was, "Don't tell me what you think I want to hear - I want to know what you think. Who knows? Maybe I could learn something from you!" This did something for my boys which is lacking in too many schools today:

1. It encourages them to be aware of what is going on
2. It validates the notion they are entitled to their own opinions
3. In the give and take of a discussion, no one is required to agree on anything. However, during this discussion, passion is all right as long as respect doesn't take a back seat to it.
4. It piques interest of various topics in which they would do more research.

My one son, a college grad now, backed Ron Paul and tried to get me on his bandwagon. Oh, I can tell you the discussions were going pretty heavy (I am a solid conservative Republican and a member of the Executive Committee of the local party), but neither of us let things get out of hand. I was extremely proud, although I disagreed with some of the things he claimed, that he did his own research, formed his own opinions and was willing to stand up for them.

My youngest son is in the USAF and a rock solid conservative who is willing to stand toe-to-toe with any liberal twit. He, too, does his homework and speaks his mind.

Do you think our country could stand if people started thinking for themselves? It would be refreshing, wouldn't it?
We used to homeschool our boys and when they got i... (show quote)

I agree with your approach I did much of the same thing with my youngest son. He in fact came to me to talk about Ron Paul and how he agreed with most of his political views. However, something happened and I don't know if it was the liberal teachings of the public high school or just h*****g with other kids but now he is so far to the left that I have a hard time discussing anything political with him.

So, I guess the message that he was his "own man" was successful however, I strongly disagree with his political leanings. I guess there's nothing I can do about that or even should.

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