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Why Professors Object to Being Recorded
By Dennis Prager

After the e******n of Donald Trump as president, a professor at Orange Coast College in California, Olga Perez Stable Cox, went into an extended h**e rant against the president-elect. Among other things, she described Trump's e******n as an "act of terrorism," labeled him a w***e s*********t and called Vice President-elect Mike Pence "one of the most anti-gay humans in this country."

And this wasn't even a political science class in which one might expect political talk, no matter how irresponsible. Cox is a professor of human sexuality.

When a student who recorded the diatribe posted the recording on social media, the professor's union, the Coast Federation of Educators, AFT local chapter 1911, said on Facebook: "This is an illegal recording without the permission of the instructor. The student will be identified and may be facing legal action."

According to the union, the recording "violated the professor's course syllabus, the Coast Community College District Code of Student Conduct, and the California Educational Code (sic), section 78907, which (exists) to provide a robust, learning environment for all students irrespective of their opinions."

The aforementioned California Education Code section states, "The use by any person, including a student, of any electronic listening or recording device in any classroom without the prior consent of the instructor is prohibited."

The American Association of University Professors has long opposed unauthorized recording and public posting of what professors say in classrooms.

As it happens, I taught for two years at Brooklyn College. I recall students asking me whether they could record my lectures. And I remember thinking, "Why on Earth would I say no?"

I wanted wh**ever I said in a classroom to be heard by more than 50 people. "Who wouldn't?" I wondered.

Here, then, is my theory as to why most professors who object to their class lectures being recorded do so: They fear having what they say exposed to the general public.

Our colleges and universities (and an increasing number of high schools and elementary schools) have been t***sformed from educational institutions into indoctrination institutions. With the left-wing takeover of universities, their primary aim has become graduating as many l*****ts as possible.

The vast majority of our colleges have become left-wing seminaries. Just as Christian seminaries exist to produce committed Christians, Western universities exist to produce committed l*****ts. Aside from the Christian-leftism difference, universities differ in only one respect from Christian seminaries: Christian seminaries admit their goal, whereas the universities deceive the public about theirs.

Thus, in the "social sciences" — disciplines outside the natural sciences and math — a large number of college teachers inject their politics into their classrooms. And if they are recorded, the general public will become aware of just how politicized their classroom lectures are.

But there is another reason.

Most professors objecting to being recorded know on some level that they are persuasive only when their audience is composed largely of very young people just out of high school. They know that if their ideas are exposed to adults, they may be revealed as intellectual lightweights.

Students therefore need to understand that when professors object to being recorded, it is a statement of contempt for them. The professors are, in effect, saying to their students: "Listen. I can get away with this intellectually shallow, emotion-based propaganda when you are the only people who actually hear it. You aren't wise enough to perceive it as such. But if people over 21 years of age hear it, I'm toast."

All rules governing the recording of conversations without permission should apply to a professor meeting privately with a student.

But when professors stand in front of a class, they are in the public domain. Moreover, the public pays at least part of these professors' salary at virtually every university. We therefore have a right, and even a duty, to know what professors say publicly in classrooms.

In fact, I would encourage every student who cares about t***h and intellectual honesty to record what their professors say in class. I would also encourage every parent to find out for what they are paying. And I would encourage professors to record themselves in order to protect themselves against doctored material.

Any professor who is not ashamed of what he or she is saying in class should welcome being recorded.

And any student taking a class with a professor who objects to being recorded should know that this objection is almost always equivalent to the professor saying: "I want you to hear what I say in class because I'm quite confident that you can't differentiate between instruction and indoctrination. But if what I say goes public, people who do know the difference will expose me as a propagandist."


Anybody who doesn't agree with what the man says here may well be the same kind of leaner the professors are.

bggamers Loc: georgia

reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

Great post and OHHHH so true !!!!!!

THUNDERBOLT

Copied from your post:

The aforementioned California Education Code section states, "The use by any person, including a student, of any electronic listening or recording device in any classroom without the prior consent of the instructor is prohibited."




OK...students walk into a class with a "FORM" that says:
I will be recording this class. Please sign this form to allow me to RECORD... If you do NOT allow the recording request, please write
on the form WHY I would not be allowed to record.
Can't wait to hear the blowback.
I'm just sayin'.......
ThunderBolt

BTW, I am not a legal guy BUT...somebody can write a form to put the
instructor on notice. ( What do you think?)