Congress can effectively say to those people "Get a job" and then pass laws like Obamacare and the deregulation of Wall Street and Banks and other industries that directly--directly!--weaken the economy and cause a loss of millions of jobs. The consequence of bad government produced this high unemployment. The lack of attention in fixing these problems bolstered this sorry state of affairs. Now the Congress says to these Americans they directly harmed by the conditions they created "Tough!" Total irresponsibility. They are fat and protected and made Americans skinny and vulnerable but feel no sense of obligation or accountability. Sad and sick.

Ve'Hoe, I think there may be a disconnect here. When most of us call for cuts, we call for cuts where real people aren't harmed - I want to see Congress take a paycut before ANYONE ELSE does. I want to see the EPA reined in, as well as all other agencies and bureaus because they are unelected and make horrific edicts we must follow or get fined. I want to see less waste, such as $5000.00 toilets, etc. I want the welfare roles supervised so that ONLY the truly needy get help. I want the c***ts off the rolls. EVERYBODY should want these things cut. Every c***t who receives welfare is c***ting the person who needs it but for budgetary reasons cannot have it. Honesty would be very difficult in DC, but the very least they could do is give it a TRY.

For instance: I once was in charge of Meals on Wheels in my county. The rules from above stated that if a person had a means of obtaining a meal, he was not qualified to have a meal delivered by tax dollars. We assessed regularly. The assessor happened to be sitting in this man's home when a guest arrived - with a bottle of booze. In the conversation it was noted that the guest came DAILY with a bottle of booze for the man. So I cut him off the daily delivered meal. I told him to have the man deliver him a hamburger, or something else to EAT instead of a bottle of booze. He was really angry, but sometimes difficult decisions must be made, and if everyone is too chicken to make those decisions, theft abounds. Greedy people are intensely selfish people - and they should not be enabled in their greed and selfishness.

OTOH, in my community when someone is down and out, the rest of us provide as much help as is possible. When we moved here, a lot of people were down and out and out of work. We put about 12 of them to work immediately, and kept them as long as our money hadn't run out completely. We apologized when we finally did have to let them go. We befriended a younger man, gave him an RV to live in as long as he paid his rent (and we paid him enough he could have afforded it). We loved him - but one month he missed his rent, the next month he missed his rent, and he had quit doing the minor chores we had asked of him. We told him he MUST pay his rent ($250.00) that included all utilities and the internet. He got angry and left us a severely damaged RV.

Most of us are not heartless, but neither are we stupid. I don't trust the government to do ANYTHING well, professionally, or honestly. Please don't ask me to lay down my brain. I want you for a friend. I don't know a single conservative calling for cuts that is not compassionate and helpful to all, especially those in need.

Ve'Hoe, I think there may be a disconnect here. When most of us call for cuts, we call for cuts where real people aren't harmed - I want to see Congress take a paycut before ANYONE ELSE does. I want to see the EPA reined in, as well as all other agencies and bureaus because they are unelected and make horrific edicts we must follow or get fined. I want to see less waste, such as $5000.00 toilets, etc. I want the welfare roles supervised so that ONLY the truly needy get help. I want the c***ts off the rolls. EVERYBODY should want these things cut. Every c***t who receives welfare is c***ting the person who needs it but for budgetary reasons cannot have it. Honesty would be very difficult in DC, but the very least they could do is give it a TRY.

For instance: I once was in charge of Meals on Wheels in my county. The rules from above stated that if a person had a means of obtaining a meal, he was not qualified to have a meal delivered by tax dollars. We assessed regularly. The assessor happened to be sitting in this man's home when a guest arrived - with a bottle of booze. In the conversation it was noted that the guest came DAILY with a bottle of booze for the man. So I cut him off the daily delivered meal. I told him to have the man deliver him a hamburger, or something else to EAT instead of a bottle of booze. He was really angry, but sometimes difficult decisions must be made, and if everyone is too chicken to make those decisions, theft abounds. Greedy people are intensely selfish people - and they should not be enabled in their greed and selfishness.

OTOH, in my community when someone is down and out, the rest of us provide as much help as is possible. When we moved here, a lot of people were down and out and out of work. We put about 12 of them to work immediately, and kept them as long as our money hadn't run out completely. We apologized when we finally did have to let them go. We befriended a younger man, gave him an RV to live in as long as he paid his rent (and we paid him enough he could have afforded it). We loved him - but one month he missed his rent, the next month he missed his rent, and he had quit doing the minor chores we had asked of him. We told him he MUST pay his rent ($250.00) that included all utilities and the internet. He got angry and left us a severely damaged RV.

Most of us are not heartless, but neither are we stupid. I don't trust the government to do ANYTHING well, professionally, or honestly. Please don't ask me to lay down my brain. I want you for a friend. I don't know a single conservative calling for cuts that is not compassionate and helpful to all, especially those in need.

I worked in NYC since I was fifteen: "grease" is how this city runs. From my experience, no one even thinks about it let alone objects. The cost of doing business (under business expenses in accounting). Call it "c***ting" and a NYer would call you an ignorant hick. This is not my agreement with the system: it is what it is and that's it. My father was a city building inspector. I had a cush job on construction sites for my early years, 15 to 18; after that, I worked hard for the job (not knowing it was a gift of my father's position). These and earlier years included fruit baskets, cases of booze, box seats for local pro teams, circus tickets, a week in the Catsk**ls, and other perks. Only many years later in hindsight did this "c***ting" become abundantly clear. To my father and those who participated: strictly business.

In 1947, Peter Marshall, a chaplain, said '...because if we don't stand for something, we shall fall for anything.'

The political confusion comes from an inability or refusal to think or reason.

Take the phrase, "Social Conservative," what does that mean?

When you consider that all social programs involve creating, new laws, regulations and bureaucracies, that are eventually paid for, by the taxpayer or consumer, in one form or another. All social programs and initiatives involve a t***sfer of wealth and mostly from the general public which is where most of us are.

NONE OF THAT, IS CONSERVATIVE!

All of this infringes on personal liberty and self determination for the individual, as it always involves a t******r of p***r from the individual to the state.


There is no such thing as a social conservative. It is a thing that does not exist, because it can't exist. If you claim to be a social conservative then you are trying to be in two places at once.
This is a political manoeuvre, it has no basis in fact. You have swallowed the Coolaid.

An American conservative knows that this country was conceived in Liberty, with the proposition that all men are created equal. A conservatives humanity is in the natural laws of man and his God given inalienable rights. An American conservative knows that man is most free with a limited government.
If the state is making decisions for you, then obviously, you can't be making them and God help you, if you come to a different conclusion than the state.

Social programs and laws do not shrink government. Liberals claim man needs more laws because man can't be trusted. But, once a law is made, who enforces them.......PEOPLE........the very essence of the problem liberals say can't be trusted.

The political landscape is confusing, because people refuse to make a stand.
People refuse to exercise simple intelligence, common sense and critical thinking to define their terms.
Because, they refuse to do that, nothing means everything and everything means nothing.
By not defining your terms and what they mean, no one is right, but then, no one can be wrong either.