My father abused my mother. In all other things he was a man much to be admired and respected, and that was, from what I know, the unanimous opinion of family, friends, and co-workers. I knew differently. He had a deep jealousy strike. Starting at eight, I was the one my mom screamed for at 4am for help to face my 6' dad after their night out; it left a lasting impression. The fact that he did not beat her but simply "roughed her up a bit" and threatened worse is not a point in his favor. Twice the cops were called to our apartment by neighbors...and they sat around the dinette table charmed by my father and grateful for the whiskey, as the men in blue shared their stories about "hysterical women." Then they shook my father's hand and left. Of course, I could have gone either way: be like my father or rebel against it. I rebelled. Just before I was shipped overseas in '67, that led to a few blows exchanged. My dad had been in Golden Gloves and besting him that night got his attention. He promised never to abuse my mom again. As far as I know from my two younger siblings, he kept that promise. People who knew them glossed over it by saying how passionate they were. Most really loved my mom and dad; they were usually the life of the party.
That is my segue into saying why I have such a problem with Trump. Not the only thing, the primary thing. Even the slightest disrespect to women gets my full and potentially wrathful attention. The video of him debasing women and boasting of being a predator really got my blood boiling. So maybe I am overreacting to this incident at the Inauguration. Trump strode out of the limousine and up the stairs to greet the exiting president to start his victorious day...and left Melania far behind in his wake. Am I being overly picky at being bothered by this? Clinton, Bush, and Obama, as I found out today, all waited for their wives to ascend those steps. Is it significant of something untoward in his character that he did not wait for his wife? Put it down to just his brash and decisive style? Of all the world's plethora of problems, I find this to get upset about? I find this to really mark this man as being unsuited for the presidency? Small gestures can mean big things.
You went thru a hell of a deal. Those type memories are not uncommon in structure as to their harsh negativity .
Many people have to go thru such life altering ordeals . Our past shape us all . The thought that the future must
help us all and not let this happen to others in some similar manner is stronger in some . That just makes sense to me.
You would be shocked if you were to be given insight into every bodies past you brush by in just one day.
Your below
You have picked things out that grabbed your eye for a reason . I think you explained those reason's pretty well.
I can not speak for President Trump's social behavior . He is a product of his environment and has been shaped
by it. Like everyone else. I can not read his mind but I doubt malice was involved .
Dr.Dross wrote:
My father abused my mother. In all other things he was a man much to be admired and respected, and that was, from what I know, the unanimous opinion of family, friends, and co-workers. I knew differently. He had a deep jealousy strike. Starting at eight, I was the one my mom screamed for at 4am for help to face my 6' dad after their night out; it left a lasting impression. The fact that he did not beat her but simply "roughed her up a bit" and threatened worse is not a point in his favor. Twice the cops were called to our apartment by neighbors...and they sat around the dinette table charmed by my father and grateful for the whiskey, as the men in blue shared their stories about "hysterical women." Then they shook my father's hand and left. Of course, I could have gone either way: be like my father or rebel against it. I rebelled. Just before I was shipped overseas in '67, that led to a few blows exchanged. My dad had been in Golden Gloves and besting him that night got his attention. He promised never to abuse my mom again. As far as I know from my two younger siblings, he kept that promise. People who knew them glossed over it by saying how passionate they were. Most really loved my mom and dad; they were usually the life of the party.
That is my segue into saying why I have such a problem with Trump. Not the only thing, the primary thing. Even the slightest disrespect to women gets my full and potentially wrathful attention. The video of him debasing women and boasting of being a predator really got my blood boiling. So maybe I am overreacting to this incident at the Inauguration. Trump strode out of the limousine and up the stairs to greet the exiting president to start his victorious day...and left Melania far behind in his wake. Am I being overly picky at being bothered by this? Clinton, Bush, and Obama, as I found out today, all waited for their wives to ascend those steps. Is it significant of something untoward in his character that he did not wait for his wife? Put it down to just his brash and decisive style? Of all the world's plethora of problems, I find this to get upset about? I find this to really mark this man as being unsuited for the presidency? Small gestures can mean big things.
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Dr.Dross wrote:
My father abused my mother. In all other things he was a man much to be admired and respected, and that was, from what I know, the unanimous opinion of family, friends, and co-workers. I knew differently. He had a deep jealousy strike. Starting at eight, I was the one my mom screamed for at 4am for help to face my 6' dad after their night out; it left a lasting impression. The fact that he did not beat her but simply "roughed her up a bit" and threatened worse is not a point in his favor. Twice the cops were called to our apartment by neighbors...and they sat around the dinette table charmed by my father and grateful for the whiskey, as the men in blue shared their stories about "hysterical women." Then they shook my father's hand and left. Of course, I could have gone either way: be like my father or rebel against it. I rebelled. Just before I was shipped overseas in '67, that led to a few blows exchanged. My dad had been in Golden Gloves and besting him that night got his attention. He promised never to abuse my mom again. As far as I know from my two younger siblings, he kept that promise. People who knew them glossed over it by saying how passionate they were. Most really loved my mom and dad; they were usually the life of the party.
That is my segue into saying why I have such a problem with Trump. Not the only thing, the primary thing. Even the slightest disrespect to women gets my full and potentially wrathful attention. The video of him debasing women and boasting of being a predator really got my blood boiling. So maybe I am overreacting to this incident at the Inauguration. Trump strode out of the limousine and up the stairs to greet the exiting president to start his victorious day...and left Melania far behind in his wake. Am I being overly picky at being bothered by this? Clinton, Bush, and Obama, as I found out today, all waited for their wives to ascend those steps. Is it significant of something untoward in his character that he did not wait for his wife? Put it down to just his brash and decisive style? Of all the world's plethora of problems, I find this to get upset about? I find this to really mark this man as being unsuited for the presidency? Small gestures can mean big things.
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Yeah.....small gestures.....😤😤 Get over it already!!
Dr.Dross wrote:
My father abused my mother. In all other things he was a man much to be admired and respected, and that was, from what I know, the unanimous opinion of family, friends, and co-workers. I knew differently. He had a deep jealousy strike. Starting at eight, I was the one my mom screamed for at 4am for help to face my 6' dad after their night out; it left a lasting impression. The fact that he did not beat her but simply "roughed her up a bit" and threatened worse is not a point in his favor. Twice the cops were called to our apartment by neighbors...and they sat around the dinette table charmed by my father and grateful for the whiskey, as the men in blue shared their stories about "hysterical women." Then they shook my father's hand and left. Of course, I could have gone either way: be like my father or rebel against it. I rebelled. Just before I was shipped overseas in '67, that led to a few blows exchanged. My dad had been in Golden Gloves and besting him that night got his attention. He promised never to abuse my mom again. As far as I know from my two younger siblings, he kept that promise. People who knew them glossed over it by saying how passionate they were. Most really loved my mom and dad; they were usually the life of the party.
That is my segue into saying why I have such a problem with Trump. Not the only thing, the primary thing. Even the slightest disrespect to women gets my full and potentially wrathful attention. The video of him debasing women and boasting of being a predator really got my blood boiling. So maybe I am overreacting to this incident at the Inauguration. Trump strode out of the limousine and up the stairs to greet the exiting president to start his victorious day...and left Melania far behind in his wake. Am I being overly picky at being bothered by this? Clinton, Bush, and Obama, as I found out today, all waited for their wives to ascend those steps. Is it significant of something untoward in his character that he did not wait for his wife? Put it down to just his brash and decisive style? Of all the world's plethora of problems, I find this to get upset about? I find this to really mark this man as being unsuited for the presidency? Small gestures can mean big things.
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Don't blame Trump for your psychosis.
Take another drink and curse your pappy.
Your poor mammy should have married a White man.
Rumitoid,
Get help. What you are doing sure sounds like "projection." Every man is not your father, every man is not abusive, every man is not jealous.... in fact most men are good, however they can become preoccupied and less than thoughtful....but, that is mainly a female failing, and not a male specific issue. Your personal problems, although interesting is best discussed with a professional. You may find that OPP does not handle self pity very well.... but then, I could be speaking only for myself. You may want to do another "poor Rumitoid" thread, just like you used to do, see how many shoulders you get to whine on.
Our PRESIDENT... and do get used to using and saying that term, may have his own baggage... but face it, he has done more in 7 days that is good for our nation than obama did in 8 years.
Dr.Dross wrote:
My father abused my mother. In all other things he was a man much to be admired and respected, and that was, from what I know, the unanimous opinion of family, friends, and co-workers. I knew differently. He had a deep jealousy strike. Starting at eight, I was the one my mom screamed for at 4am for help to face my 6' dad after their night out; it left a lasting impression. The fact that he did not beat her but simply "roughed her up a bit" and threatened worse is not a point in his favor. Twice the cops were called to our apartment by neighbors...and they sat around the dinette table charmed by my father and grateful for the whiskey, as the men in blue shared their stories about "hysterical women." Then they shook my father's hand and left. Of course, I could have gone either way: be like my father or rebel against it. I rebelled. Just before I was shipped overseas in '67, that led to a few blows exchanged. My dad had been in Golden Gloves and besting him that night got his attention. He promised never to abuse my mom again. As far as I know from my two younger siblings, he kept that promise. People who knew them glossed over it by saying how passionate they were. Most really loved my mom and dad; they were usually the life of the party.
That is my segue into saying why I have such a problem with Trump. Not the only thing, the primary thing. Even the slightest disrespect to women gets my full and potentially wrathful attention. The video of him debasing women and boasting of being a predator really got my blood boiling. So maybe I am overreacting to this incident at the Inauguration. Trump strode out of the limousine and up the stairs to greet the exiting president to start his victorious day...and left Melania far behind in his wake. Am I being overly picky at being bothered by this? Clinton, Bush, and Obama, as I found out today, all waited for their wives to ascend those steps. Is it significant of something untoward in his character that he did not wait for his wife? Put it down to just his brash and decisive style? Of all the world's plethora of problems, I find this to get upset about? I find this to really mark this man as being unsuited for the presidency? Small gestures can mean big things.
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I'm with you. I just pain don't believe him. Most liberals lie and then find ways to justify it.
Pennylynn wrote:
Rumitoid,
Get help. What you are doing sure sounds like "projection." Every man is not your father, every man is not abusive, every man is not jealous.... in fact most men are good, however they can become preoccupied and less than thoughtful....but, that is mainly a female failing, and not a male specific issue. Your personal problems, although interesting is best discussed with a professional. You may find that OPP does not handle self pity very well.... but then, I could be speaking only for myself. You may want to do another "poor Rumitoid" thread, just like you used to do, see how many shoulders you get to whine on.
Our PRESIDENT... and do get used to using and saying that term, may have his own baggage... but face it, he has done more in 7 days that is good for our nation than obama did in 8 years.
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It is a story to justify a negative view toward Trump. Dross is a mentally defective moron....Nappy is his motto.
missinglink wrote:
You went thru a hell of a deal. Those type memories are not uncommon in structure as to their harsh negativity .
Many people have to go thru such life altering ordeals . Our past shape us all . The thought that the future must
help us all and not let this happen to others in some similar manner is stronger in some . That just makes sense to me.
You would be shocked if you were to be given insight into every bodies past you brush by in just one day.
Your below
You have picked things out that grabbed your eye for a reason . I think you explained those reason's pretty well.
I can not speak for President Trump's social behavior . He is a product of his environment and has been shaped
by it. Like everyone else. I can not read his mind but I doubt malice was involved .
You went thru a hell of a deal. Those type memorie... (
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You are a compassionate and thoughtful person, that much is clear. My eye is jaundiced. But maybe not, maybe just finely attuned? Hard to tell when you have history. This is a truly great line you said: "You would be shocked if you were to be given insight into every bodies past you brush by in just one day." Very insightful and poignant. Thank you, I really need to hold that thought.
archie bunker wrote:
Yeah.....small gestures.....😤😤 Get over it already!!
Expected a tad better response from you.
Pennylynn wrote:
Rumitoid,
Get help. What you are doing sure sounds like "projection." Every man is not your father, every man is not abusive, every man is not jealous.... in fact most men are good, however they can become preoccupied and less than thoughtful....but, that is mainly a female failing, and not a male specific issue. Your personal problems, although interesting is best discussed with a professional. You may find that OPP does not handle self pity very well.... but then, I could be speaking only for myself. You may want to do another "poor Rumitoid" thread, just like you used to do, see how many shoulders you get to whine on.
Our PRESIDENT... and do get used to using and saying that term, may have his own baggage... but face it, he has done more in 7 days that is good for our nation than obama did in 8 years.
Rumitoid, br br Get help. What you are doing sur... (
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Perhaps it is projection, I suggested that much. And perhaps it is an attuned consciousness to abuse. I am not sure. I offer my past to show that I may be prejudice on this count, though I feel over thirty years with dealing with that issue in every way, to my knowledge, is enough. But perhaps not.
"Every man is not your father, every man is not abusive, every man is not jealous...." Obviously. But some are abusive and jealous. Trump is. By his own words and by his actions. Or is that just by my perhaps bias or maybe astute observance?
This is a very curious statement by you: "in fact most men are good, however they can become preoccupied and less than thoughtful....but, that is mainly a female failing, and not a male specific issue." Wow is all I can say to that enormously sexist thought. But maybe I misunderstood. What did you mean?
As to"get help" you and other members obsession with Rumitoid I am beginning to take as a huge compliment. This guy appears to have you all by the short hairs...of your neck. To be polite.
"You may find that OPP does not handle self pity very well...." Okay, but please identify any "self-pity" in my thread. Be specific! There was no woe unto me in anything I said. Just the facts of my past. But you do not appear to care.
"Our PRESIDENT... and do get used to using and saying that term": I dedicated a thread here at OPP insisting on it.
You are one creepy and sneaky person, pennylynn, a master. I write story lines, always looking for subtleties to convey openly or subliminally a certain ideal or thought to sway a person where I want them to go; you are a natural. Sad!
Dr.Dross wrote:
My father abused my mother. In all other things he was a man much to be admired and respected, and that was, from what I know, the unanimous opinion of family, friends, and co-workers. I knew differently. He had a deep jealousy strike. Starting at eight, I was the one my mom screamed for at 4am for help to face my 6' dad after their night out; it left a lasting impression. The fact that he did not beat her but simply "roughed her up a bit" and threatened worse is not a point in his favor. Twice the cops were called to our apartment by neighbors...and they sat around the dinette table charmed by my father and grateful for the whiskey, as the men in blue shared their stories about "hysterical women." Then they shook my father's hand and left. Of course, I could have gone either way: be like my father or rebel against it. I rebelled. Just before I was shipped overseas in '67, that led to a few blows exchanged. My dad had been in Golden Gloves and besting him that night got his attention. He promised never to abuse my mom again. As far as I know from my two younger siblings, he kept that promise. People who knew them glossed over it by saying how passionate they were. Most really loved my mom and dad; they were usually the life of the party.
That is my segue into saying why I have such a problem with Trump. Not the only thing, the primary thing. Even the slightest disrespect to women gets my full and potentially wrathful attention. The video of him debasing women and boasting of being a predator really got my blood boiling. So maybe I am overreacting to this incident at the Inauguration. Trump strode out of the limousine and up the stairs to greet the exiting president to start his victorious day...and left Melania far behind in his wake. Am I being overly picky at being bothered by this? Clinton, Bush, and Obama, as I found out today, all waited for their wives to ascend those steps. Is it significant of something untoward in his character that he did not wait for his wife? Put it down to just his brash and decisive style? Of all the world's plethora of problems, I find this to get upset about? I find this to really mark this man as being unsuited for the presidency? Small gestures can mean big things.
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You have to understand, Trump doesn't know how to make anyone his equal. He didn't extend his hand to Melania because, to him, he was the only one there. One has to wonder if the idea for Melania and Barron to remain in New York was her or his idea. She may have suggested it simply because she knew Trump wouldn't want her there--this is his gig, not hers, and something tells me that Barron needs to be sheltered and that isn't something that can happen easily at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. As they say, it is what it is. Trump is the only one who can make himself change and in listening to his interview with David Muir that is never going to happen any time soon.
PeterS wrote:
You have to understand, Trump doesn't know how to make anyone his equal. He didn't extend his hand to Melania because, to him, he was the only one there. One has to wonder if the idea for Melania and Barron to remain in New York was her or his idea. She may have suggested it simply because she knew Trump wouldn't want her there--this is his gig, not hers, and something tells me that Barron needs to be sheltered and that isn't something that can happen easily at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. As they say, it is what it is. Trump is the only one who can make himself change and in listening to his interview with David Muir that is never going to happen any time soon.
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Most likely they both decided to have the entire white house checked out for bed bugs and head lice...after all, who has been living there for the past 8 years?
Dr.Dross wrote:
My father abused my mother. In all other things he was a man much to be admired and respected, and that was, from what I know, the unanimous opinion of family, friends, and co-workers. I knew differently. He had a deep jealousy strike. Starting at eight, I was the one my mom screamed for at 4am for help to face my 6' dad after their night out; it left a lasting impression. The fact that he did not beat her but simply "roughed her up a bit" and threatened worse is not a point in his favor. Twice the cops were called to our apartment by neighbors...and they sat around the dinette table charmed by my father and grateful for the whiskey, as the men in blue shared their stories about "hysterical women." Then they shook my father's hand and left. Of course, I could have gone either way: be like my father or rebel against it. I rebelled. Just before I was shipped overseas in '67, that led to a few blows exchanged. My dad had been in Golden Gloves and besting him that night got his attention. He promised never to abuse my mom again. As far as I know from my two younger siblings, he kept that promise. People who knew them glossed over it by saying how passionate they were. Most really loved my mom and dad; they were usually the life of the party.
That is my segue into saying why I have such a problem with Trump. Not the only thing, the primary thing. Even the slightest disrespect to women gets my full and potentially wrathful attention. The video of him debasing women and boasting of being a predator really got my blood boiling. So maybe I am overreacting to this incident at the Inauguration. Trump strode out of the limousine and up the stairs to greet the exiting president to start his victorious day...and left Melania far behind in his wake. Am I being overly picky at being bothered by this? Clinton, Bush, and Obama, as I found out today, all waited for their wives to ascend those steps. Is it significant of something untoward in his character that he did not wait for his wife? Put it down to just his brash and decisive style? Of all the world's plethora of problems, I find this to get upset about? I find this to really mark this man as being unsuited for the presidency? Small gestures can mean big things.
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So, please tell us of your attitude toward Bill Clinton who Juanita Broadderick accused of raping her? Or any of the others with similar stories? Or don't they count?
And how about the hundreds of woemn who worked in his organization and had nothing but praise for him?
And yes, I do think you are being picky.
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