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Jan 23, 2017 17:26:41   #
boatbob2
 
Im Glad that donald froze the federal hiring,our government is too TOP HEAVY,but,heres a note to our POTUS,When you unfreeze the hiring of new federal employees,how about giving hiring preferences first ,,to Disabled Military veterans, and Second,to ALL former members of our US Military,with an Honorable discharge. Make this a REQUIREMENT to be hired.

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Jan 23, 2017 17:31:21   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
boatbob2 wrote:
Im Glad that donald froze the federal hiring,our government is too TOP HEAVY,but,heres a note to our POTUS,When you unfreeze the hiring of new federal employees,how about giving hiring preferences first ,,to Disabled Military veterans, and Second,to ALL former members of our US Military,with an Honorable discharge. Make this a REQUIREMENT to be hired.


Can't do it without occurring countless discrimination suits.

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Jan 23, 2017 17:33:47   #
boatbob2
 
Of course he can do it,All he has to do,is put that job requirement into the federal register. IF,you dont meet the requirement you dont get the job.....tough titty.

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Jan 23, 2017 17:42:18   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
boatbob2 wrote:
Im Glad that donald froze the federal hiring,our government is too TOP HEAVY,but,heres a note to our POTUS,When you unfreeze the hiring of new federal employees,how about giving hiring preferences first ,,to Disabled Military veterans, and Second,to ALL former members of our US Military,with an Honorable discharge. Make this a REQUIREMENT to be hired.


No requirement, k**ler! Take it easy.

But the idea of making military service a plus in some official sense makes sense.

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Jan 23, 2017 17:44:04   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Can't do it without occurring countless discrimination suits.








Do you have any idea how-many civilian law-suits and intended litigations have been filed against the BHO cabal, and BHO himself, Doc, and have been totally stonewalled by this radical Marx/Alinsky administration? Literally thousands over the past 8 years. Before our America can work again, these "stonewalled" lawsuits must be gone-through, one-at-a-time, and each one must be litigated and prosecuted to the full-extent of the law. When the criminals in DC begin to prosecute the "PIGS," it's time for TRUMP!!! At THAT time all the "discrimination" law-suits can begin to be dealt-with!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP!!!

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Jan 23, 2017 17:55:33   #
bobebgtime Loc: Virginia
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Can't do it without occurring countless discrimination suits.


Sure he can, and has. Discrimination suits for what? Discrimination won't fly for everything.

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Jan 23, 2017 22:09:22   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
boatbob2 wrote:
Of course he can do it,All he has to do,is put that job requirement into the federal register. IF,you dont meet the requirement you dont get the job.....tough titty.


Nothing discriminatory can be added to any job app requirement. Military service is already a hiring preference and if applicants are of equal ability and experience, military service is preferred....but beyond that you would be begging lawsuits.

Anything we can do for our vets we need to do but what you suggest ultimately would make it worse for them.

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Jan 23, 2017 22:32:04   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
robmull wrote:
Do you have any idea how-many civilian law-suits and intended litigations have been filed against the BHO cabal, and BHO himself, Doc, and have been totally stonewalled by this radical Marx/Alinsky administration? Literally thousands over the past 8 years. Before our America can work again, these "stonewalled" lawsuits must be gone-through, one-at-a-time, and each one must be litigated and prosecuted to the full-extent of the law. When the criminals in DC begin to prosecute the "PIGS," it's time for TRUMP!!! At THAT time all the "discrimination" law-suits can begin to be dealt-with!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP!!!
Do you have any idea how-many civilian law-suits a... (show quote)


Yes of course I'm aware. I'm also aware that 10,000 wrongs still don't make one right.

I'm also aware that the Trump administration wouldn't stone wall litigation as Obama's admin has....at least I don't expect it to do so.

To require military service is absolutely discriminatory and would result in countless lawsuits that the government would undoubtedly lose at huge taxpayer expense.

Sorry, I'm all for doing everything possible for our vets but you cannot write a regulation or anything into the fed. reg. that violates existing law.

To do what was suggested would result in restrictions benefiting the non-military service public, which would be more restrictive to our vets.

The fact is that current law does give preference to vets but only when all other related qualifications among applicants are equal.

The better approach would be to adopt a point system in which points are awarded on a sliding scale for each component of the application. Areas such as education, specialized training, degrees, awards, practical experience, length of that experience, history of military service, and a myriad of other factors. If such a system were adopted, being a vet could then be weighted legally. ....giving the vet an advantage.

The ADA was created to level the playing field for people with disabilities, but it does not lend an advantage. What it does is ensure that if the applicant with a disability cannot be excluded because of that disability. The disabled applicant still must be equal in all other job requirement areas and still it levels the field, not lend any advantage. To do as suggested violates the spirit of the ADA.

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Jan 23, 2017 22:42:10   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
bobebgtime wrote:
Sure he can, and has. Discrimination suits for what? Discrimination won't fly for everything.


I'm sorry. I'm with you in spirit but you are wrong. What you want would result in new law that would damage vets in the long run.

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Jan 24, 2017 12:17:46   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Nothing discriminatory can be added to any job app requirement. Military service is already a hiring preference and if applicants are of equal ability and experience, military service is preferred....but beyond that you would be begging lawsuits.

Anything we can do for our vets we need to do but what you suggest ultimately would make it worse for them.


There are actually programs that have tax incentives for employers to hire felons. Why not such things for veterans?

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Jan 24, 2017 14:39:17   #
NormanPrigger
 
Don't forget Donald J Trump is a military school graduate who never served. He deliberately avoided serving.

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Jan 24, 2017 15:04:25   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
NormanPrigger wrote:
Don't forget Donald J Trump is a military school graduate who never served. He deliberately avoided serving.


Who cares? What does that have to do with the conversation?

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Jan 24, 2017 15:08:53   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
boatbob2 wrote:
Im Glad that donald froze the federal hiring,our government is too TOP HEAVY,but,heres a note to our POTUS,When you unfreeze the hiring of new federal employees,how about giving hiring preferences first ,,to Disabled Military veterans, and Second,to ALL former members of our US Military,with an Honorable discharge. Make this a REQUIREMENT to be hired.


First, they need to destroy federal employee unions.

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Jan 24, 2017 15:13:48   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
padremike wrote:
First, they need to destroy federal employee unions.


Or change what they are.

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Jan 24, 2017 15:32:23   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
BigMike wrote:
There are actually programs that have tax incentives for employers to hire felons. Why not such things for veterans?


There should be, but they need to be written into law. Too many regulations have been quietly snuck into bills and passed. Anything benefiting our vets should be encouraged but it will take a shift in the perspective of potential employers.

Sad to say it but most VA hospitals are located in large metro areas abd those areas see vets as being sufferers of PTSD and related drug and alcohol problems. The result is seeing vets as undesirables and I see many highly motivated employable vets, unemployed.

I have written recently to Trump explaining how the public employer opinion has been affected in this matter and I have suggested he take a look into developing incentives and PR aimed at helping put our vets back to work.

I explained that in 2009 I was on the team of physicians who reviewed the developing ACA and offered criticism on several revisions. I included a copy of our reports showing the areas we warned about and how they were ignored.

Hopefully his curiosity will be peaked enough for him to take a second look. That is if my communication gets to him, and that is a big if.

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