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Dec 22, 2013 11:41:16   #
Blue Flu Loc: HHI
 
I wrote the piece below in the hope that some resident liberal on this site can allay my concern so I can sleep better at night.
I hope those who share my conservative philosophy leave a comment too. Thanks

The Federal Reserve alone is keeping our economic engine running by pumping 85 billion dollars per month into the system. At the same time, it’s widely reported that Obama will have single handedly doubled the national debt by the end of his present term. The President continually reassures us that there is no crisis and that the economy is rebounding. His rosy outlook runs counter to common sense as debt piles up and inflation becomes a bigger problem than the Government is willing to admit. Can a case can be made that Obama is deliberately trying to wreck what's left of our economy in an effort to remain in power beyond the end of his current term?
Either by design or error the economy is bound to crash soon. The chaos generated by this event alone might make the r**ts of the late 60's (when cities where on fire across the Nation) look like a non-event.
Obama, like a true anarchist, has continuously sown the seeds of class warfare against the wealthy. He does this by pointing out the disparity between the haves and have nots. When the “great unwashed” take to the streets by the 10’s of millions it’s easy to guess who’ll be the object of their wrath.
This is the moment that our would be dictator makes his move. First, Mr. Obama orders the military not to intervene. Second, he goes to the Congress and says that he alone can quell the unrest but he'll need powers that aren't remotely constitutional.
Sound too far fetched? Look at an event that might be laying the groundwork. There was the recent removal of 190 high ranking military officers. The press identified and reported on only about a dozen of them. Were these patriots considered an obstacle that had to be removed first before executing his plan?
There’s the idea too, that Obama will sign an executive order that will legalize 12-20 million i*****l a***ns. Would he think of them as allies that can be mobilized along with his power base? For instance, “if I go down you'll be deported so “demonstrate” in order to keep the freedom I have given you.”
In a July 2, 2008 speech Obama proposed the creation of a “civilian national security force.” Here are his exact words:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as POWERFUL, just as STRONG, just as WELL-FUNDED."
Somewhere in hell on “dictators row”, Napoleon, Hitler and Hussein who each had their own security apparatus are nodding their heads in understanding.

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Dec 22, 2013 12:15:50   #
stan3186
 
Blue Flu wrote:
I wrote the piece below in the hope that some resident liberal on this site can allay my concern so I can sleep better at night.
I hope those who share my conservative philosophy leave a comment too. Thanks

The Federal Reserve alone is keeping our economic engine running by pumping 85 billion dollars per month into the system. At the same time, it’s widely reported that Obama will have single handedly doubled the national debt by the end of his present term. The President continually reassures us that there is no crisis and that the economy is rebounding. His rosy outlook runs counter to common sense as debt piles up and inflation becomes a bigger problem than the Government is willing to admit. Can a case can be made that Obama is deliberately trying to wreck what's left of our economy in an effort to remain in power beyond the end of his current term?
Either by design or error the economy is bound to crash soon. The chaos generated by this event alone might make the r**ts of the late 60's (when cities where on fire across the Nation) look like a non-event.
Obama, like a true anarchist, has continuously sown the seeds of class warfare against the wealthy. He does this by pointing out the disparity between the haves and have nots. When the “great unwashed” take to the streets by the 10’s of millions it’s easy to guess who’ll be the object of their wrath.
This is the moment that our would be dictator makes his move. First, Mr. Obama orders the military not to intervene. Second, he goes to the Congress and says that he alone can quell the unrest but he'll need powers that aren't remotely constitutional.
Sound too far fetched? Look at an event that might be laying the groundwork. There was the recent removal of 190 high ranking military officers. The press identified and reported on only about a dozen of them. Were these patriots considered an obstacle that had to be removed first before executing his plan?
There’s the idea too, that Obama will sign an executive order that will legalize 12-20 million i*****l a***ns. Would he think of them as allies that can be mobilized along with his power base? For instance, “if I go down you'll be deported so “demonstrate” in order to keep the freedom I have given you.”
In a July 2, 2008 speech Obama proposed the creation of a “civilian national security force.” Here are his exact words:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as POWERFUL, just as STRONG, just as WELL-FUNDED."
Somewhere in hell on “dictators row”, Napoleon, Hitler and Hussein who each had their own security apparatus are nodding their heads in understanding.
I wrote the piece below in the hope that some resi... (show quote)


While I wish I could ally your fears, I am very fearful that your assessment is absolutely spot on. I do believe that Pres. Obama has every intention of declaring martial law toward the end of his term in order to try and stay in power.

I do not know the answer of how to stop this madman and I am very fearful that it is too late for us to really do anything about it. I'm not advocating that the US needs another Civil War but something needs to be done if we are to maintain our constitutional republic.

I know all the liberals on this site will just say with their usual rhetoric that we are alarmists, crazy, or paranoid but I truly believe that we are in the end times of this country unless we elect some true patriots into Congress that will not allow this madman to turn this country into a Muslim dictatorship.

But I am afraid that the e******ns are fraudulent and we have no chance of electing true patriots the only alternative the I see is to move to a country that is not trying to dominate the world. Such as some of the Scandinavian countries who managed to live in peace amongst themselves.

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Dec 22, 2013 12:24:23   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Blue Flu wrote:
I wrote the piece below in the hope that some resident liberal on this site can allay my concern so I can sleep better at night.
I hope those who share my conservative philosophy leave a comment too. Thanks

The Federal Reserve alone is keeping our economic engine running by pumping 85 billion dollars per month into the system. At the same time, it’s widely reported that Obama will have single handedly doubled the national debt by the end of his present term. The President continually reassures us that there is no crisis and that the economy is rebounding. His rosy outlook runs counter to common sense as debt piles up and inflation becomes a bigger problem than the Government is willing to admit. Can a case can be made that Obama is deliberately trying to wreck what's left of our economy in an effort to remain in power beyond the end of his current term?
Either by design or error the economy is bound to crash soon. The chaos generated by this event alone might make the r**ts of the late 60's (when cities where on fire across the Nation) look like a non-event.
Obama, like a true anarchist, has continuously sown the seeds of class warfare against the wealthy. He does this by pointing out the disparity between the haves and have nots. When the “great unwashed” take to the streets by the 10’s of millions it’s easy to guess who’ll be the object of their wrath.
This is the moment that our would be dictator makes his move. First, Mr. Obama orders the military not to intervene. Second, he goes to the Congress and says that he alone can quell the unrest but he'll need powers that aren't remotely constitutional.
Sound too far fetched? Look at an event that might be laying the groundwork. There was the recent removal of 190 high ranking military officers. The press identified and reported on only about a dozen of them. Were these patriots considered an obstacle that had to be removed first before executing his plan?
There’s the idea too, that Obama will sign an executive order that will legalize 12-20 million i*****l a***ns. Would he think of them as allies that can be mobilized along with his power base? For instance, “if I go down you'll be deported so “demonstrate” in order to keep the freedom I have given you.”
In a July 2, 2008 speech Obama proposed the creation of a “civilian national security force.” Here are his exact words:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as POWERFUL, just as STRONG, just as WELL-FUNDED."
Somewhere in hell on “dictators row”, Napoleon, Hitler and Hussein who each had their own security apparatus are nodding their heads in understanding.
I wrote the piece below in the hope that some resi... (show quote)

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Dec 22, 2013 12:24:23   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Blue Flu wrote:
I wrote the piece below in the hope that some resident liberal on this site can allay my concern so I can sleep better at night.
I hope those who share my conservative philosophy leave a comment too. Thanks

The Federal Reserve alone is keeping our economic engine running by pumping 85 billion dollars per month into the system. At the same time, it’s widely reported that Obama will have single handedly doubled the national debt by the end of his present term. The President continually reassures us that there is no crisis and that the economy is rebounding. His rosy outlook runs counter to common sense as debt piles up and inflation becomes a bigger problem than the Government is willing to admit. Can a case can be made that Obama is deliberately trying to wreck what's left of our economy in an effort to remain in power beyond the end of his current term?
Either by design or error the economy is bound to crash soon. The chaos generated by this event alone might make the r**ts of the late 60's (when cities where on fire across the Nation) look like a non-event.
Obama, like a true anarchist, has continuously sown the seeds of class warfare against the wealthy. He does this by pointing out the disparity between the haves and have nots. When the “great unwashed” take to the streets by the 10’s of millions it’s easy to guess who’ll be the object of their wrath.
This is the moment that our would be dictator makes his move. First, Mr. Obama orders the military not to intervene. Second, he goes to the Congress and says that he alone can quell the unrest but he'll need powers that aren't remotely constitutional.
Sound too far fetched? Look at an event that might be laying the groundwork. There was the recent removal of 190 high ranking military officers. The press identified and reported on only about a dozen of them. Were these patriots considered an obstacle that had to be removed first before executing his plan?
There’s the idea too, that Obama will sign an executive order that will legalize 12-20 million i*****l a***ns. Would he think of them as allies that can be mobilized along with his power base? For instance, “if I go down you'll be deported so “demonstrate” in order to keep the freedom I have given you.”
In a July 2, 2008 speech Obama proposed the creation of a “civilian national security force.” Here are his exact words:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as POWERFUL, just as STRONG, just as WELL-FUNDED."
Somewhere in hell on “dictators row”, Napoleon, Hitler and Hussein who each had their own security apparatus are nodding their heads in understanding.
I wrote the piece below in the hope that some resi... (show quote)

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Dec 22, 2013 12:42:41   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
Blue Flu wrote:
I wrote the piece below in the hope that some resident liberal on this site can allay my concern so I can sleep better at night.
I hope those who share my conservative philosophy leave a comment too. Thanks

The Federal Reserve alone is keeping our economic engine running by pumping 85 billion dollars per month into the system. At the same time, it’s widely reported that Obama will have single handedly doubled the national debt by the end of his present term. The President continually reassures us that there is no crisis and that the economy is rebounding. His rosy outlook runs counter to common sense as debt piles up and inflation becomes a bigger problem than the Government is willing to admit. Can a case can be made that Obama is deliberately trying to wreck what's left of our economy in an effort to remain in power beyond the end of his current term?
Either by design or error the economy is bound to crash soon. The chaos generated by this event alone might make the r**ts of the late 60's (when cities where on fire across the Nation) look like a non-event.
Obama, like a true anarchist, has continuously sown the seeds of class warfare against the wealthy. He does this by pointing out the disparity between the haves and have nots. When the “great unwashed” take to the streets by the 10’s of millions it’s easy to guess who’ll be the object of their wrath.
This is the moment that our would be dictator makes his move. First, Mr. Obama orders the military not to intervene. Second, he goes to the Congress and says that he alone can quell the unrest but he'll need powers that aren't remotely constitutional.
Sound too far fetched? Look at an event that might be laying the groundwork. There was the recent removal of 190 high ranking military officers. The press identified and reported on only about a dozen of them. Were these patriots considered an obstacle that had to be removed first before executing his plan?
There’s the idea too, that Obama will sign an executive order that will legalize 12-20 million i*****l a***ns. Would he think of them as allies that can be mobilized along with his power base? For instance, “if I go down you'll be deported so “demonstrate” in order to keep the freedom I have given you.”
In a July 2, 2008 speech Obama proposed the creation of a “civilian national security force.” Here are his exact words:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as POWERFUL, just as STRONG, just as WELL-FUNDED."
Somewhere in hell on “dictators row”, Napoleon, Hitler and Hussein who each had their own security apparatus are nodding their heads in understanding.
I wrote the piece below in the hope that some resi... (show quote)


I can't disagree with anything you've said, and I will add it is worse than what you describe.

First, they put out the propaganda that the economy is improving, even though the economic growth numbers are under 2%. Now, how do they come to this bogus number? What is real GDP? Simple GDP is Gross Domestic Product. GDP is everything we produce less or plus the balance of trade. This includes services, manufacturing, mining, farming and other things like this. IT IS NOT BORROWED AND SPENT MONEY. Get that last sentence? Borrowed money is not produce, it is debt. If we take the government debt out of our GDP figure we entered a very deep recession in 2008 and have never left since. The actual growth numbers is in minus territory, not positive territory.

Secondly, Obama, and his czars, are reshaping, and reducing the size and scope, of the military. They're firing, and retiring, the more right leaning senior officers, and promoting the left leaning ones. They have allowed women to serve on ships and in combat, and allowed the gays in, therefore moving the military farther to the left.

Thirdly, they are widening the gap between the rich and poor, and eroding the middle class. Look at c*******t countries, they only have two classes of people, the rich, and the poor. Contrary to what the l*****ts tell you, there are far more rich Democrats than rich Republicans, especially in the House and Senate. They are building a larger, and larger, permanent dependent class with all the government handouts, therefore they own their v**e. They want amnesty for i******s for only one reason, so that they never lose another e******n.

Fourthly, they are pushing for gun control. First get them registered so they know where they're all at, and then comes confiscation. Get our guns, and then they pretty much have full control over us.

The c*******ts (primarily in Russia), under the threat of nuclear attack, stayed away from training Americans in their indoctrination academies in Russia. Their formal schools of indoctrination included students from countries all around the world. Take New Zealand, and later, Australia, formerly right leaning countries, but the infiltration of graduates from these schools eventually moved up in the higher positions of government, academia, and the financial institutions. Now, look at their governments, they're moving towards socialism, in fact New Zealand is a socialist country, and Australia isn't far behind. The 60s movement in this country was a left-leaning attempt to take over this country, it failed and they went underground. Many of these c*******ts (Bill Ayers, et al) instead infiltrated our government, academia, and financial institutions. they succeeded in getting many elected to office, and then got the big prize, the presidency. My friends, the c*******ts failed in the 60s, but they don't intend to fail now. This is just the beginning.

I can't wait to see the comments from the uninformed lefties in this forum! They will ridicule what I just said, but they can't prove it is wrong. LOL!

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Dec 22, 2013 13:00:01   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Not exactly a lib here but probably near enough to fit your definition. ha. Not exactly sure I can reassure you about economics of Fed Reserve except to say large economics are difficult for us people on the ground to understand but what the FR has been doing is considered standard macroeconomic action regarding availability of credit in a recession...and this recession is rightly termed the Great Recession in comparison to the Great Depression. Increase in national debt is likewise a matter of the Great Recession. The danger there is runaway inflation if Fed R's credit availability isn't cut back at the right time and if revenue and spending aren't balanced.

Regarding the fear of dictatorship, that's plain conspiracy fantasy. I don't know about the "civilian security force" idea, which sounds crazy to me upon hearing of it for the first time...I doubt it would be seriously considered in Congress for funding equal to the military. ha. That amount would be a stretch. Is that referring to local police security force beef up?? I can't imagine any other use for a civilian security force. What exactly were those words referring to?

Regarding military dismissals, the number is being reduced because we are no longer fighting wars. If we do get into further needed military actions, they are more likely to be in the form of specialized units with targeted strikes and of drone attacks. Unfortunately the specialization of military operations means limited opportunity for young people starting out to go into the general military as career or option toward education. So few beginning options for people starting out...almost have to have specialized training, unlike the "good old days" when gainful employment without prior planning or training was more available. We've somewhat had this opening opportunity for the young problem to some degree since the Great Depression and the Conservation Corps as temporary solution except the problem becomes greater as economic consolidation and bigness grows. That's my worry for my grandchildren and grand nephews and nieces and their children starting out. We all expect so much.

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Dec 22, 2013 13:07:36   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Not exactly a lib here


Yeah, you are. You're just as blind and ill informed as the rest of your liberal ilk. I am retired military, and you sir don't have a clue on what is going on in the military.

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Dec 22, 2013 16:21:54   #
WunWingDuk
 
Maybe that's why we need you Old Schoolers; to keep us aware of what is going on in the military. We see the old schoolers being weeded out into retirement and new faces taking their places that are unaware of what the past has written. I don't need non patriots in our military under the commander in chief who doesn't give a damn. I'm glad to see that there are other men who haven't lost their love of country and are watching the small steps being taken every day by usurpers.

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Dec 22, 2013 16:38:58   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
If a person pays any attention to what is going on in this country, it's not hard to see we are in serious trouble. This pres. is a lawless,elitist,lire,who will stop at nothing to get his agenda to "t***sform America" put in place. His civilian national security force is already in place..DHS Also all the swat teams that have been installed in all the counties are funded by the fed. gov. Why is all this military type security necessary to combat crime? Why do they need a billion rounds of ammo ? Why do they need all the armored military vehicles they have been buying? WHY IS GUN CONTROL so important to this pres? The new laws passed in Connecticut is just the beginning.Now you are a felon if you don't register your guns or turn in the BANNED ones.I would like to ask all the liberals on here..DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE AMERICA WE GREW UP IN? And now you are going to be fined if you don't have health insurance. I could go on all day about this crap and it won't make a bit of difference...All i can say is GET READY the best way you can because we are very close to violence..I'm ready Are you..? LOCK AND LOAD

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Dec 22, 2013 17:23:48   #
Don Overton Loc: Southwest USA
 
So much for intelligence among the wack-a-doodle nut cases on the right. And who are those "tru Patriots" you refer to? Types like you? That would be funny.

stan3186 wrote:
While I wish I could ally your fears, I am very fearful that your assessment is absolutely spot on. I do believe that Pres. Obama has every intention of declaring martial law toward the end of his term in order to try and stay in power.

I do not know the answer of how to stop this madman and I am very fearful that it is too late for us to really do anything about it. I'm not advocating that the US needs another Civil War but something needs to be done if we are to maintain our constitutional republic.

I know all the liberals on this site will just say with their usual rhetoric that we are alarmists, crazy, or paranoid but I truly believe that we are in the end times of this country unless we elect some true patriots into Congress that will not allow this madman to turn this country into a Muslim dictatorship.

But I am afraid that the e******ns are fraudulent and we have no chance of electing true patriots the only alternative the I see is to move to a country that is not trying to dominate the world. Such as some of the Scandinavian countries who managed to live in peace amongst themselves.
While I wish I could ally your fears, I am very fe... (show quote)

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Dec 22, 2013 18:10:45   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
Don Overton wrote:
So much for intelligence among the wack-a-doodle nut cases on the right. And who are those "tru Patriots" you refer to? Types like you? That would be funny.


So far America is still the greatest country on earth..What other country allows liberals their god given right to go to college, get a degree, and still be stupid....LOCK AND LOAD

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Dec 22, 2013 18:12:21   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
Don Overton wrote:
So much for intelligence among the wack-a-doodle nut cases on the right. And who are those "tru Patriots" you refer to? Types like you? That would be funny.


I am surprised you could even spell the word Patriot...must have used your spell checker, because I know it is not a word you're very familiar with. But, wack-a-doodle nut cases? Now, that is something you libtards are definitely familiar with, since there are so many on your side.

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Dec 22, 2013 20:22:48   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
angery american wrote:
If a person pays any attention to what is going on in this country, it's not hard to see we are in serious trouble. This pres. is a lawless,elitist,lire,who will stop at nothing to get his agenda to "t***sform America" put in place. His civilian national security force is already in place..DHS Also all the swat teams that have been installed in all the counties are funded by the fed. gov. Why is all this military type security necessary to combat crime? Why do they need a billion rounds of ammo ? Why do they need all the armored military vehicles they have been buying? WHY IS GUN CONTROL so important to this pres? The new laws passed in Connecticut is just the beginning.Now you are a felon if you don't register your guns or turn in the BANNED ones.I would like to ask all the liberals on here..DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE AMERICA WE GREW UP IN? And now you are going to be fined if you don't have health insurance. I could go on all day about this crap and it won't make a bit of difference...All i can say is GET READY the best way you can because we are very close to violence..I'm ready Are you..? LOCK AND LOAD
If a person pays any attention to what is going on... (show quote)


Political paranoia and extremism. Your extremism could destroy everything.

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Dec 22, 2013 20:29:40   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
angery american wrote:
So far America is still the greatest country on earth..What other country allows liberals their god given right to go to college, get a degree, and still be stupid....LOCK AND LOAD


Do you resent colleges and educated people? Of course, you are smarter than educated people, right? You know better than they do, those arrogant college people. Do you realize they proportionate v**e GOP more than the poor without college education? Of course, most are too intelligent to be taken in by the extremisms of far left and far right wingnuts like you, and that apparently is part of your resentment, huh?

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Dec 22, 2013 20:43:51   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
stan3186 wrote:
While I wish I could ally your fears, I am very fearful that your assessment is absolutely spot on. I do believe that Pres. Obama has every intention of declaring martial law toward the end of his term in order to try and stay in power.

I do not know the answer of how to stop this madman and I am very fearful that it is too late for us to really do anything about it. I'm not advocating that the US needs another Civil War but something needs to be done if we are to maintain our constitutional republic.

I know all the liberals on this site will just say with their usual rhetoric that we are alarmists, crazy, or paranoid but I truly believe that we are in the end times of this country unless we elect some true patriots into Congress that will not allow this madman to turn this country into a Muslim dictatorship.

But I am afraid that the e******ns are fraudulent and we have no chance of electing true patriots the only alternative the I see is to move to a country that is not trying to dominate the world. Such as some of the Scandinavian countries who managed to live in peace amongst themselves.
While I wish I could ally your fears, I am very fe... (show quote)


News for you--the Scandinavian countries are the most "liberal" among Western nations.

Obama and martial law? fantasy. Muslim dictatorshi? fantasy. Madman? your idea is mad. E******ns fraudulent? fantasy.

If any of these things were remotely possible, why hasn't anyone besides a few crazy extremists said anything? Is there anyone in the mainstream of politics or news reporting saying anything remotely connected to these conspiratorial notions? Doesn't that tell you there's something wrong with your thinking? Do you think you somehow know something the rest of the world doesn't? Yes, paranoid and crazy thinking. Consult with your pastor or employer about these ideas and see what they think...on the other hand, don't...they will think you're a wingnut.

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