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Jan 3, 2017 13:58:06   #
Hardwork1
 
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we are in politics in America today one thing kept coming back up in my thought process. It was how Liberals could be so irrational and unreasonable in their beliefs and their position on issues. I actually had a lengthy discussion about this with some of the other “old guys” at my gym one morning, including a very liberal psychology professor. The consensus of opinion was that the reasoning portion of the brain simply does not work in people who are liberal.

The more I thought about this the more I began to believe that the “left brain, right brain” explanation that I wrote about earlier this year is too simplistic. There are too many different people who hold liberal views for this simple explanation to be valid. There are people from all races, backgrounds and professions who are Liberal. Many are very intelligent, highly educated and very successful in their chosen profession.

As I studied this subject and tried to figure out how to understand and interact with people who are Liberals, I noticed that they usually fall into one of five different groups:

1. Liberals who are totally uninformed about facts regarding issues and do not have any interest in being informed.

2. Liberals who think that they are informed when they are actually misinformed. This is because the people they usually associate with have deeply held liberal views which they constantly share with their friends.

3. Liberals who acknowledge that Liberalism is not perfect but openly say that they prefer it over Conservatism. These people are different from the people in group “4”. They are much less demanding and personal agenda driven. Their mindset is more attuned to a “live and let live” lifestyle.

4.Liberals who simply want things to be the way they want it to be even if it is not logical or ethical. Unfortunately, too many of the young people in America today are in this group. There is no other way to explain how so many of them supported a professed Socialist for President or organized protests groups like Occupy or B*M.

5. Liberals who are so agenda driven that they are deliberately working to make America be a Socialist/C*******t country.

As I thought about how different Liberals can be in some ways, I also noticed that they do have some things in common:

Many of these Liberals had a bad life experience that shaped their views. Something like a failed business or personal relationship that they refuse to acknowledge was their fault.

Almost all Liberals are Fox News h**ers. They cannot tolerate any opinion about anything other their own.

Trying to reason with most Liberals can be challenging. Some will politely ignore you, some will question you and some will become angry and absolutely nasty in their responses to you.

I have actually tried to understand how some of these Liberals have the views that they do, and even tried to have a rational exchange of ideas/facts with some of them, with limited success

During some of my attempts to interact with various Liberals I noticed that some had to suspend all semblances of reason, ethics, and honesty to profess such strongly held liberal views. I cannot understand people who can do this and will simply avoid those that do in the future.

I do still believe that there are some people with liberal views that can be positively influenced, but based on my experiences in recent years I will “pick my battles” more carefully in the future. I ask all of my fellow conservatives and Libertarians to do the same. We cannot just give up and allow the Liberal base in America to continue to grow!

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Jan 3, 2017 14:07:04   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we are in politics in America today one thing kept coming back up in my thought process. It was how Liberals could be so irrational and unreasonable in their beliefs and their position on issues. I actually had a lengthy discussion about this with some of the other “old guys” at my gym one morning, including a very liberal psychology professor. The consensus of opinion was that the reasoning portion of the brain simply does not work in people who are liberal.

The more I thought about this the more I began to believe that the “left brain, right brain” explanation that I wrote about earlier this year is too simplistic. There are too many different people who hold liberal views for this simple explanation to be valid. There are people from all races, backgrounds and professions who are Liberal. Many are very intelligent, highly educated and very successful in their chosen profession.

As I studied this subject and tried to figure out how to understand and interact with people who are Liberals, I noticed that they usually fall into one of five different groups:

1. Liberals who are totally uninformed about facts regarding issues and do not have any interest in being informed.

2. Liberals who think that they are informed when they are actually misinformed. This is because the people they usually associate with have deeply held liberal views which they constantly share with their friends.

3. Liberals who acknowledge that Liberalism is not perfect but openly say that they prefer it over Conservatism. These people are different from the people in group “4”. They are much less demanding and personal agenda driven. Their mindset is more attuned to a “live and let live” lifestyle.

4.Liberals who simply want things to be the way they want it to be even if it is not logical or ethical. Unfortunately, too many of the young people in America today are in this group. There is no other way to explain how so many of them supported a professed Socialist for President or organized protests groups like Occupy or B*M.

5. Liberals who are so agenda driven that they are deliberately working to make America be a Socialist/C*******t country.

As I thought about how different Liberals can be in some ways, I also noticed that they do have some things in common:

Many of these Liberals had a bad life experience that shaped their views. Something like a failed business or personal relationship that they refuse to acknowledge was their fault.

Almost all Liberals are Fox News h**ers. They cannot tolerate any opinion about anything other their own.

Trying to reason with most Liberals can be challenging. Some will politely ignore you, some will question you and some will become angry and absolutely nasty in their responses to you.

I have actually tried to understand how some of these Liberals have the views that they do, and even tried to have a rational exchange of ideas/facts with some of them, with limited success

During some of my attempts to interact with various Liberals I noticed that some had to suspend all semblances of reason, ethics, and honesty to profess such strongly held liberal views. I cannot understand people who can do this and will simply avoid those that do in the future.

I do still believe that there are some people with liberal views that can be positively influenced, but based on my experiences in recent years I will “pick my battles” more carefully in the future. I ask all of my fellow conservatives and Libertarians to do the same. We cannot just give up and allow the Liberal base in America to continue to grow!
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we ... (show quote)


As I heard before, liberalism is a mental disorder but not entirely. You can exchange opinions with the left, it's the far-left that needs the diapers.

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Jan 3, 2017 14:11:07   #
okie don
 
'LIBTARDS' motto:
' Although the facts are interesting, they are completely irrelevent'.(:

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Jan 3, 2017 14:35:30   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we are in politics in America today one thing kept coming back up in my thought process. It was how Liberals could be so irrational and unreasonable in their beliefs and their position on issues. I actually had a lengthy discussion about this with some of the other “old guys” at my gym one morning, including a very liberal psychology professor. The consensus of opinion was that the reasoning portion of the brain simply does not work in people who are liberal.

The more I thought about this the more I began to believe that the “left brain, right brain” explanation that I wrote about earlier this year is too simplistic. There are too many different people who hold liberal views for this simple explanation to be valid. There are people from all races, backgrounds and professions who are Liberal. Many are very intelligent, highly educated and very successful in their chosen profession.

As I studied this subject and tried to figure out how to understand and interact with people who are Liberals, I noticed that they usually fall into one of five different groups:

1. Liberals who are totally uninformed about facts regarding issues and do not have any interest in being informed.

2. Liberals who think that they are informed when they are actually misinformed. This is because the people they usually associate with have deeply held liberal views which they constantly share with their friends.

3. Liberals who acknowledge that Liberalism is not perfect but openly say that they prefer it over Conservatism. These people are different from the people in group “4”. They are much less demanding and personal agenda driven. Their mindset is more attuned to a “live and let live” lifestyle.

4.Liberals who simply want things to be the way they want it to be even if it is not logical or ethical. Unfortunately, too many of the young people in America today are in this group. There is no other way to explain how so many of them supported a professed Socialist for President or organized protests groups like Occupy or B*M.

5. Liberals who are so agenda driven that they are deliberately working to make America be a Socialist/C*******t country.

As I thought about how different Liberals can be in some ways, I also noticed that they do have some things in common:

Many of these Liberals had a bad life experience that shaped their views. Something like a failed business or personal relationship that they refuse to acknowledge was their fault.

Almost all Liberals are Fox News h**ers. They cannot tolerate any opinion about anything other their own.

Trying to reason with most Liberals can be challenging. Some will politely ignore you, some will question you and some will become angry and absolutely nasty in their responses to you.

I have actually tried to understand how some of these Liberals have the views that they do, and even tried to have a rational exchange of ideas/facts with some of them, with limited success

During some of my attempts to interact with various Liberals I noticed that some had to suspend all semblances of reason, ethics, and honesty to profess such strongly held liberal views. I cannot understand people who can do this and will simply avoid those that do in the future.

I do still believe that there are some people with liberal views that can be positively influenced, but based on my experiences in recent years I will “pick my battles” more carefully in the future. I ask all of my fellow conservatives and Libertarians to do the same. We cannot just give up and allow the Liberal base in America to continue to grow!
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we ... (show quote)












After the "red-diaper" SDS and Weather Underground crap was "rapidly crushed" {Saul Alinsky}, in the early '70's, the leaders of the anti-American "movement" got more involved with our Western free-market education system, media and politics; to teach our children, 24/7/365, not only about the "utopia" of a Marx/Alinsky America, but how bad our Western free-market America has ALWAYS been. And to not screw-up that ALWAYS successful Marx/Trotsky/Lenin/Ho/Mao-ist, "bottom-up, top-down, inside-out" strategy which had always worked so well in other "governments - OF THE MALITARISTIC GOVERNMENT," c*******t countries. Hummmmmmm. Now the children in America are c*******t educated, the "top," is totally Marx/Alinsky, and the MSM is singing the secular liberal progressive "lefty" praises; and now, {with Hillary in 3rd term POTUS for "Barry," in Hillary "d**g"}, the perfect time for a "revolution." UH-OH!!! Hillary was slated {by ALL the Marxist radicals} to be SOOOOOOOOOO perfect to continue the American "fundamental t***sformation." (D)amn, WHAT HAPPENED??? That stupid (D)amn e******n. "DO-OVER, DO-OVER, DO-OVER," they are yelling, 24/7/365, from every r**t-plagued city, every Marx/Alinsky infested liberal progressive government, every school and every (D)amn "lap-dog, alphabet channel," megaphone to the world. WHAT HAPPENED THIS TIME??? (D)amn again!!! "WE THE PEOPLE," happened, Karl and Saul!!! THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED!!! Oh, bad luck, Cynthia!!! And now I want to give a BIG {and well-deserved} SHOUT-OUT to the American patriots, Jose, Leroy, Mary, John and Wong. "WE" couldn't have done it without YOU!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP!!! "MAKE AMERICA {AND ISRAEL} GREAT AGAIN!!!"

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Jan 3, 2017 15:00:46   #
wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia
 
okie don wrote:
'LIBTARDS' motto:
' Although the facts are interesting, they are completely irrelevent'.(:






Talk about hitting the nail on the head!!

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Jan 3, 2017 20:10:53   #
THUNDERBOLT
 
This might sum it up for you.
ThunderBolt



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Jan 4, 2017 08:46:01   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we are in politics in America today one thing kept coming back up in my thought process. It was how Liberals could be so irrational and unreasonable in their beliefs and their position on issues. I actually had a lengthy discussion about this with some of the other “old guys” at my gym one morning, including a very liberal psychology professor. The consensus of opinion was that the reasoning portion of the brain simply does not work in people who are liberal.

The more I thought about this the more I began to believe that the “left brain, right brain” explanation that I wrote about earlier this year is too simplistic. There are too many different people who hold liberal views for this simple explanation to be valid. There are people from all races, backgrounds and professions who are Liberal. Many are very intelligent, highly educated and very successful in their chosen profession.

As I studied this subject and tried to figure out how to understand and interact with people who are Liberals, I noticed that they usually fall into one of five different groups:

1. Liberals who are totally uninformed about facts regarding issues and do not have any interest in being informed.

2. Liberals who think that they are informed when they are actually misinformed. This is because the people they usually associate with have deeply held liberal views which they constantly share with their friends.

3. Liberals who acknowledge that Liberalism is not perfect but openly say that they prefer it over Conservatism. These people are different from the people in group “4”. They are much less demanding and personal agenda driven. Their mindset is more attuned to a “live and let live” lifestyle.

4.Liberals who simply want things to be the way they want it to be even if it is not logical or ethical. Unfortunately, too many of the young people in America today are in this group. There is no other way to explain how so many of them supported a professed Socialist for President or organized protests groups like Occupy or B*M.

5. Liberals who are so agenda driven that they are deliberately working to make America be a Socialist/C*******t country.

As I thought about how different Liberals can be in some ways, I also noticed that they do have some things in common:

Many of these Liberals had a bad life experience that shaped their views. Something like a failed business or personal relationship that they refuse to acknowledge was their fault.

Almost all Liberals are Fox News h**ers. They cannot tolerate any opinion about anything other their own.

Trying to reason with most Liberals can be challenging. Some will politely ignore you, some will question you and some will become angry and absolutely nasty in their responses to you.

I have actually tried to understand how some of these Liberals have the views that they do, and even tried to have a rational exchange of ideas/facts with some of them, with limited success

During some of my attempts to interact with various Liberals I noticed that some had to suspend all semblances of reason, ethics, and honesty to profess such strongly held liberal views. I cannot understand people who can do this and will simply avoid those that do in the future.

I do still believe that there are some people with liberal views that can be positively influenced, but based on my experiences in recent years I will “pick my battles” more carefully in the future. I ask all of my fellow conservatives and Libertarians to do the same. We cannot just give up and allow the Liberal base in America to continue to grow!
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we ... (show quote)




That's because liberals operate on "feelings" NOT "facts", "fairness" NOT "reality". They tend to believe that they can somehow make a "perfect" world if everyone will just do exactly as they say. When "facts" are introduced into the discussion, it is rebutted with "fantasy". Many of their arguments start with "To be fair.....".

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Jan 4, 2017 13:37:04   #
out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State
 
There is no absolute with liberals, they cannot handle that there is a right and wrong, that Gods t***h is t***h. They wish to rewrite the book so that they come out the good guy's. Anyone catching my thread here, it is not a completely finished thought , but an attemp to grasp their motive based on their actions.

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Jan 4, 2017 16:08:55   #
dorothyroeder
 
HaHa. Replace the word liberal with conservative and that is what I think. I'm out of here.

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Jan 4, 2017 16:29:03   #
out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State
 
Good riddance!

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Jan 4, 2017 16:34:50   #
Big Bass
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we are in politics in America today one thing kept coming back up in my thought process. It was how Liberals could be so irrational and unreasonable in their beliefs and their position on issues. I actually had a lengthy discussion about this with some of the other “old guys” at my gym one morning, including a very liberal psychology professor. The consensus of opinion was that the reasoning portion of the brain simply does not work in people who are liberal.

The more I thought about this the more I began to believe that the “left brain, right brain” explanation that I wrote about earlier this year is too simplistic. There are too many different people who hold liberal views for this simple explanation to be valid. There are people from all races, backgrounds and professions who are Liberal. Many are very intelligent, highly educated and very successful in their chosen profession.

As I studied this subject and tried to figure out how to understand and interact with people who are Liberals, I noticed that they usually fall into one of five different groups:

1. Liberals who are totally uninformed about facts regarding issues and do not have any interest in being informed.

2. Liberals who think that they are informed when they are actually misinformed. This is because the people they usually associate with have deeply held liberal views which they constantly share with their friends.

3. Liberals who acknowledge that Liberalism is not perfect but openly say that they prefer it over Conservatism. These people are different from the people in group “4”. They are much less demanding and personal agenda driven. Their mindset is more attuned to a “live and let live” lifestyle.

4.Liberals who simply want things to be the way they want it to be even if it is not logical or ethical. Unfortunately, too many of the young people in America today are in this group. There is no other way to explain how so many of them supported a professed Socialist for President or organized protests groups like Occupy or B*M.

5. Liberals who are so agenda driven that they are deliberately working to make America be a Socialist/C*******t country.

As I thought about how different Liberals can be in some ways, I also noticed that they do have some things in common:

Many of these Liberals had a bad life experience that shaped their views. Something like a failed business or personal relationship that they refuse to acknowledge was their fault.

Almost all Liberals are Fox News h**ers. They cannot tolerate any opinion about anything other their own.

Trying to reason with most Liberals can be challenging. Some will politely ignore you, some will question you and some will become angry and absolutely nasty in their responses to you.

I have actually tried to understand how some of these Liberals have the views that they do, and even tried to have a rational exchange of ideas/facts with some of them, with limited success

During some of my attempts to interact with various Liberals I noticed that some had to suspend all semblances of reason, ethics, and honesty to profess such strongly held liberal views. I cannot understand people who can do this and will simply avoid those that do in the future.

I do still believe that there are some people with liberal views that can be positively influenced, but based on my experiences in recent years I will “pick my battles” more carefully in the future. I ask all of my fellow conservatives and Libertarians to do the same. We cannot just give up and allow the Liberal base in America to continue to grow!
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we ... (show quote)

You can't rationalize with the irrational.

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Jan 4, 2017 19:31:25   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we are in politics in America today one thing kept coming back up in my thought process. It was how Liberals could be so irrational and unreasonable in their beliefs and their position on issues. I actually had a lengthy discussion about this with some of the other “old guys” at my gym one morning, including a very liberal psychology professor. The consensus of opinion was that the reasoning portion of the brain simply does not work in people who are liberal.

The more I thought about this the more I began to believe that the “left brain, right brain” explanation that I wrote about earlier this year is too simplistic. There are too many different people who hold liberal views for this simple explanation to be valid. There are people from all races, backgrounds and professions who are Liberal. Many are very intelligent, highly educated and very successful in their chosen profession.

As I studied this subject and tried to figure out how to understand and interact with people who are Liberals, I noticed that they usually fall into one of five different groups:

1. Liberals who are totally uninformed about facts regarding issues and do not have any interest in being informed.

2. Liberals who think that they are informed when they are actually misinformed. This is because the people they usually associate with have deeply held liberal views which they constantly share with their friends.

3. Liberals who acknowledge that Liberalism is not perfect but openly say that they prefer it over Conservatism. These people are different from the people in group “4”. They are much less demanding and personal agenda driven. Their mindset is more attuned to a “live and let live” lifestyle.

4.Liberals who simply want things to be the way they want it to be even if it is not logical or ethical. Unfortunately, too many of the young people in America today are in this group. There is no other way to explain how so many of them supported a professed Socialist for President or organized protests groups like Occupy or B*M.

5. Liberals who are so agenda driven that they are deliberately working to make America be a Socialist/C*******t country.

As I thought about how different Liberals can be in some ways, I also noticed that they do have some things in common:

Many of these Liberals had a bad life experience that shaped their views. Something like a failed business or personal relationship that they refuse to acknowledge was their fault.

Almost all Liberals are Fox News h**ers. They cannot tolerate any opinion about anything other their own.

Trying to reason with most Liberals can be challenging. Some will politely ignore you, some will question you and some will become angry and absolutely nasty in their responses to you.

I have actually tried to understand how some of these Liberals have the views that they do, and even tried to have a rational exchange of ideas/facts with some of them, with limited success

During some of my attempts to interact with various Liberals I noticed that some had to suspend all semblances of reason, ethics, and honesty to profess such strongly held liberal views. I cannot understand people who can do this and will simply avoid those that do in the future.

I do still believe that there are some people with liberal views that can be positively influenced, but based on my experiences in recent years I will “pick my battles” more carefully in the future. I ask all of my fellow conservatives and Libertarians to do the same. We cannot just give up and allow the Liberal base in America to continue to grow!
As I researched, studied and wrote about where we ... (show quote)


I am with you on most of your views. Since I have been on this site, I have discovered that most of the liberals do not use common sense or logic when having a discussion with you. They repeat themselves over and over again and again.

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Jan 4, 2017 19:44:48   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
dorothyroeder wrote:
HaHa. Replace the word liberal with conservative and that is what I think. I'm out of here.

No but you may leave anyway Dorothy. This thread is for adults so back to Kansas with you dummy.

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Jan 4, 2017 20:42:27   #
Sons of Liberty Loc: look behind you!
 
dorothyroeder wrote:
Replace all the liberals with conservatives and that is what I think. I'd be rejoicing.


I fixed that for you...

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Jan 4, 2017 21:49:17   #
currahee
 
Once certain programming takes root in a person's brain, it is impossible to "uproot" that programming. Only trauma can do it. Look at "liberals" as escapees from the asylum. They honestly can't help it. I've known a "shrink" who believed in her liberal permissiveness to the degree she allowed her own daughter to commit suicide. By the way, this trauma didn't change her. These people are lost.

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