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Dec 16, 2013 16:11:55   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
G****l w*****g? Satellite data shows Arctic sea ice coverage up 50 percent!

http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/16/global-warming-satellite-data-shows-arctic-sea-ice-coverage-up-50-percent/#ixzz2nfsSgKyy

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Dec 16, 2013 16:57:53   #
imp Loc: Mn.
 
A Big THANK YOU! Ha ha. Now how do we reach them. Don't worry. The powers that be will find a new ostensible reason to take our country from us. Protect wildlife and endangered species any one? Not that we shouldn't care about these. Let's have our own citizens come up with their own economic and politiical policies in a democratic way. How does a far away UN committee have its pulse on the people???

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Dec 16, 2013 17:06:17   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
OldSchool wrote:


Now I wonder why NOAS's satellites missed that? Or ISS telescopes? They must have been looking somewhere else.

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Dec 16, 2013 17:19:01   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Now I wonder why NOAS's satellites missed that? Or ISS telescopes? They must have been looking somewhere else.


When our economy goes splat so will the spotted owl if my family is starving and they taste good.

Just saying

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Dec 16, 2013 19:25:48   #
imp Loc: Mn.
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
When our economy goes splat so will the spotted owl if my family is starving and they taste good.

Just saying


More power to you. :thumbup:

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Dec 16, 2013 20:43:38   #
lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin
 
OldSchool wrote:


Here is some additional satellite data to consider. NASA's 20 year program seems to disagree.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/arctic-seaice-2012.html

http://www.wunderground.com/news/ice-fractures-video-beaufort-sea-2013

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Dec 16, 2013 20:50:06   #
catpaw Loc: Bakersfield, California
 
Did you read the whole article?

“It’s estimated that there were around 20,000 cu km of Arctic sea ice each October in the early 1980s, and so today’s minimum still ranks among the lowest of the past 30 years,”

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Dec 16, 2013 21:00:03   #
lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin
 
catpaw wrote:
Did you read the whole article?

“It’s estimated that there were around 20,000 cu km of Arctic sea ice each October in the early 1980s, and so today’s minimum still ranks among the lowest of the past 30 years,”


Which article, and who are you talking too?

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Dec 16, 2013 21:07:32   #
catpaw Loc: Bakersfield, California
 
lone_ghost wrote:
Which article, and who are you talking too?


Sorry, my screw-up. Original post about Daily Caller article.

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Dec 16, 2013 21:33:37   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Definitely good news for polar bears and hopefully, 2012's record setting arctic melt is a fluke.

OldSchool wrote:

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Dec 16, 2013 23:06:39   #
lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin
 
OldSchool wrote:


Oldschool, do you really believe that all we have done has had no effect on the environment? Do you really believe that, or is it just easier to not accept it?

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Dec 16, 2013 23:38:23   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
lone_ghost wrote:
Oldschool, do you really believe that all we have done has had no effect on the environment? Do you really believe that, or is it just easier to not accept it?


Green piece website says global increase of just over 1 degree F since 1900. This is no where near what their computer models have been telling them. Will it go up some well yes probably but the data just doesn't match the predictions. And almost no meteorologists have ever signed on to warming hype.

But as I have stated before, ultimately we will need to ween ourselves off of f****l f**ls but we're talking well over a hundred years from now. There is more shale oil in the US than Saudi Arabia ever had. There is that much again in Canada and that much again in Australia.

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Dec 17, 2013 00:02:20   #
lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
Green piece website says global increase of just over 1 degree F since 1900. This is no where near what their computer models have been telling them. Will it go up some well yes probably but the data just doesn't match the predictions. And almost no meteorologists have ever signed on to warming hype.

But as I have stated before, ultimately we will need to ween ourselves off of f****l f**ls but we're talking well over a hundred years from now. There is more shale oil in the US than Saudi Arabia ever had. There is that much again in Canada and that much again in Australia.
Green piece website says global increase of just o... (show quote)


You chose to pipe in, but you did not answer the question.

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Dec 17, 2013 08:32:21   #
LurkingTom Loc: North Dakota
 
OldSchool wrote:


lol ... who cares. g****l w*****g/c*****e c****e is based on fraudulent data. Remember that this same crowd was screaming g****l c*****g just forty years ago. The earth goes through natural cycles of cooling and warming, there is nothing we can do to change that. But you libatards get sending algore your money, so he can keep up his lifestyle.

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Dec 17, 2013 09:16:16   #
1OldGeezer
 
lone_ghost wrote:
Oldschool, do you really believe that all we have done has had no effect on the environment? Do you really believe that, or is it just easier to not accept it?


Lone ghost,
Do you really think that we can have several billion people here on this earth without "having no effect on the environment"? That is the wrong question,; there will be an effect unless you are proposing that we all just die or get off.
The real question is, "How much of an effect on the earth's CLIMATE does human activity provide?" Is our activity insignificant compared to the suns activity cycles, and the other natural phenomena always occurring, such as forest fires for example? Throughout the earths history there have been cycles of cooling and warming centuries before any significant human presence. There is even the question of whether a warming trend is bad or simply a change we can accommodate and benefit from, as in past cycles.
There is certainly no scientific "concensus" that says human activity has any significant effect that would warrant paying economy destroying taxes so we can send the money to less developed countries around the world. (We already do that with our foreign aid).
A side note, the UN study chief has a degree in Financial studies, NOT Climatology, did you know that?
Have a good day;
1oldgeezer

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