Rivers

Many modern liberals are f*****ts at heart who can’t accept losing power; that’s why Bush wasn’t “their” president.

Those liberals are currently bemoaning the fact that Hillary won the popular v**e which, according to them, means she should really be president, though were the case reversed we all know they’d be extolling the virtues of the E*******l College.

Driven by a lust for power liberals don’t get that everyone has to follow the rules; demanding the rules change when you lose so that you can win is a sign of immaturity and an unhealthy need for control.

But even if we ignore all that we don’t know if Hillary won the popular v**e for the following reasons:

1) It’s the campaign: Trump campaigned to win the E*******l College because that’s how the law works. His people have pointed out that if law was that the popular v**e winner won Trump would have spent more time in states that he couldn’t win, like California, in order to get more total v**es. In that alternate reality would Trump have won? Neither we nor the Democrats have any idea. But it’s clearly unfair to say that Trump lost because he didn’t follow “rules” that weren’t rules during the e******n.

2) It’s the v***r f***d: Everyone knows that Democrats are the kings of v***r f***d. The dead are regular v**ers in Chicago for example. Similarly, it’s not an accident that California gave drivers licenses to i******s in early 2016 and Obama told i******s that it was safe for them to v**e right before the e******n. A study of the 2008 and 2010 e******ns shows significant v****g by i******s. Take away California and Hillary’s popular v**e “victory” disappears. Those states where there are strong movements to let i******s v**e, which includes California and New York, went heavily for Hillary. That indicates that v***r f***d may have played a more significant role than liberals will admit. No one knows for sure how many people illegally v**ed, but we can be sure that they v**ed for Hillary. As a result, no one can say for sure that absent illegal v**es Hillary would still have won the popular v**e.

3) It’s the uncounted v**es: In some states if the number of uncounted b****ts is less than the victory margin the b****ts are never counted. Hence we can’t know what the actual popular v**e total is. That might sound shocking but since the popular v**e total doesn’t matter why bother to keep track of it? Uncounted b****ts tend to be absentee b****ts that tend to favor Republicans that means that it’s quite possible that if all the b****ts were counted Trump could win the popular v**e.

4) It’s the v**er suppression: There is v**er suppression in the U.S. but it’s being done by the liberals. In California, there was no Republican candidate for Senate. Because California's v**ers passed an initiative that had the two highest v**e getters in an open primary face each other in the general e******n. So there were two Democrats running against each other for the Senate. While r****t Democrats claim that B****s are too stupid to get a photo IDs, those same Democrats think that Republicans being denied a candidate on the b****t won’t keep Republicans from v****g. The reality is that in California, which everyone knew Trump would lose, the lack of a Republican Senate candidate meant that some Republicans didn’t bother to v**e. We can’t know how many but we can be pretty sure they’d have v**ed for Trump, reducing Hillary’s supposed lead.

5) It’s the Trump factor: It’s no secret that a lot of people held their noses to v**e for Trump. Many people in states that were never going to go for Trump, such as California and Virginia, didn’t v**e for Trump because they knew it wouldn’t help Hillary -- whom they disliked even more -- and it made them feel like they weren’t supporting Trump. If those people knew that their b****ts would have counted they would have v**ed for Trump.

6) It’s the laziness factor: The reality is that many people v**e only because of the p**********l race. The media worked hard to make it clear to the residents of many states that their v**e would have no impact on who was elected president precisely because of the E*******l College. For the liberal media to now argue that all those Republicans who didn’t v**e because the media told them their v**es were worthless shouldn’t be counted if we suddenly decide to go by the popular v**e is typical liberal dishonesty.

Even if we ignore the fact that the e******n was about the E*******l College, not about the popular v**e we have no way of knowing if Hillary did win the popular v**e.

Similarly we have no way of knowing that Hillary would have won the popular v**e if the v**ers, and Trump, had known that the winner would be decided by the popular v**e.

When your liberal friend starts spouting about the popular v**e you’re now ready to explain why the whole popular v**e issue is another example of f**e news.

PeterS

It's not a myth, she actually did win by nearly 3 million v**es over Trump.

Rivers

It's a myth....read the article dumb ass.

robmull Loc: florida

It's hilarious, Rivers. They all went "Mussolini" on "US." It's almost like the PRE, "pre-k" tussles you see in the rather infantile school yard over a pencil or something. The next sounds you hear will be the "rapid crushing," Saul Alinsky mentioned a few times as a warning to the radical anarchist "movement" that seems to be {again} trying to "o*******w the enemy, America." Hummmmmmmmmm. Perhaps they got tired of reading Saul's blueprint, "Rules for Radicals," {(D)edicated to SATAN, the first radical}, before they got to the more interesting sections about; "if the radical movement isn't strong enough to physically o*******w the enemy, America, the movement will be "rapidly crushed." Hummmmm, again.
"WE" do have to let the "PIGS" {they have been wholesale k*****g} take care of THAT though. Soon. This Inauguration is going to be the "bong," with all of f*****t "Giorgi" Soros', radical MB's, and pinko "red-diaper" Michael Moore's re-rented fleet of busses {200+?}, filled with well-paid radical capitalistic Alinskyite anarchists {and possibly a "smidgeon" of ISIS "jihadists," useful-i***ts, L***Q, MSA, CPUSA, OWS, B*M, Code Pink, etc.}, headed to NYC, to try to (D)estroy President-elect Trump's "Swearing-in" ceremonies, and {quite futilely} attempting to (D)iscredit and (D)elegitimize PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD J. TRUMP - I LOVE to see that in writing - PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD J. TRUMP!!! GOD BLESSED AMERICA AND THE WORLD!!! I don't mean to seem to be gloating, but I feel it's almost like snatching the carcass of a hard-chased prey from a cackle of Hyenas who had stolen it, and giving it back to the Cheetah that had gone all-out, actually slowly stalked and then taken-it-down {at speeds near 70 MPH}, to feed herself and her cubs!!! Snatched-it-away, "WE" did. And just another thanks to Jose, Leroy, Mary, John and Wong, and their families. "WE" couldn't have done it without YOU!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT ELECT DONALD J. TRUMP!!!

Sons of Liberty Loc: look behind you!

I had every Trump sign I put up stolen from my yard. Every time they'd steal them, I'd put more up and they'd be gone within a couple of days. I decided I'd go steal some Hillary signs and had to call it a night. I used up a full tank of gas looking for one of her signs and did finally find one but left it because it said Hillary for Prison.

Rivers

Same for my town, you could find Trump signs, and a spattering of Johnson signs, but I never saw one Hillary sign, and only one Hillary bumper sticker.

Rinnai Loc: Japan

The Democrats are going nuts about Hillary winning the popular v**e and Trump winning the E*******l College. They now want to eliminate the E*******l College because Gore lost to Bush and now Hillary lost to Trump.

The E*******l College was initiated by our forefathers for this very reason. These old guys were very intelligent and thought through the E*******l College and National v****g consequences very carefully. They knew the citizens who lived outside the major cities and towns would not have a voice unless the E*******l College was instituted.

Democrats now h**e the E*******l College. If they can eliminate the E*******l College they know they can "rule" the whole country by controlling the populations of major cities. The Democrats can accomplish their "Progressive Socialist" goals if they can control the v**es of inner-city b****s, Muslims, Hispanics, and any other new refugees or immigrants whom depend upon the government dole. The only difference for most inner city people today from 1861 is the new s***e owner is now the Democratic Party.

Most of the data below reflects only New York. You can only imagine what the numbers would be if you included the West Coast.



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There are 3,141 counties in the United States
T***p w*n 3,084 of them. (98%)
Clinton won 57. (1.8%)

There are 62 counties in New York State.
T***p w*n 46 of them. (75%)
Clinton won 16. (25%)

Clinton won the popular v**e by approx. 1.5 million v**es.

In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more v**es than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties, T***p w*n Richmond)
Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular v**e of the entire country.

These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles. (Even less considering T***p w*n Richmond County.)
The United States is comprised of 3, 797,000 square miles.

When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the v**e of those that encompass a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national e******n.

Rivers

Excellent!