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Dec 13, 2016 17:11:41   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
WND EXCLUSIVE
State abandons gender mandate for churches
'Beliefs about biological sex conflict with the government's views'
Published: 19 hours ago


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A strategy that has surfaced in several states to require churches to accommodate transgendered people by calling their buildings “places of public accommodation” has been reversed in Massachusetts after state officials were sued over the alleged constitutional violations.

The Alliance Defending Freedom says four Massachusetts churches and their pastors are voluntarily dismissing their lawsuit after the state changed its “Gender Identity Guidance.”

ADF brought its complaint in October against Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination commissioners Jamie R. Williamson, Sunila T. George and Charlotte G. Richie, and Attorney General Maura Healey.

Massachusetts makes “gender identity” a special class, granting more protections than ordinary citizens.

Under the measure, the attorney general had claimed “houses of worship” are places of “public accommodation,” and members, therefore, cannot even express ideas concerning “religious expression regarding biological sex and gender identity.”

The complaint alleged state officials decided to interpret the law “to force churches to open church changing rooms, shower facilities, restrooms, and other intimate areas [to people] based on their perceived gender identity, and not their biological sex, in violation of the churches’ religious beliefs.”

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Now the case is being dismissed, because the state has retreated.

State officials admitted the First Amendment protects a church’s freedom to operate consistently with its faith even when engaged in community outreach activities, such as spaghetti suppers.

The state’s Civil Rights Division chief, Genevieve Nadeau, said, according to ADF, “Your lawsuit caused us to focus on these issues and to make this revision.”

ADF Senior Counsel Steve O’Ban said the government “can’t encroach on the internal, religious practices of a church.”

“The language revisions that our lawsuit prompted should ensure that doesn’t happen,” O’Ban said. “The comments of commonwealth officials gave these churches reason for great concern, and so we are pleased wording changes have been made to respect the constitutionally protected freedoms these congregations and pastors have.”

Healey and the commission both had interpreted the state’s public accommodations requirements to mean churches must make changing gender-segregated facilities and rest rooms open to people according to their “gender identity.”

Explained ADF: “Because those laws also prohibit covered entities from making statements intended ‘to discriminate’ or to ‘incite’ others to do so, the churches and pastors could have been forced to refrain from communicating their beliefs about biological sex because they conflict with the government’s views.”

Before the change, the guidance said: “Even a church could be seen as a place of public accommodation if it holds a secular event, such as a spaghetti supper, that is open to the public.”

It now has been changed to say that the “law does not apply to a religious organization if subjecting the organization to the law would violate the organization’s First Amendment rights.”

Statements on the state’s websites were changed to that effect.

“No church should fear government punishment simply for serving its community consistently with its faith. Massachusetts officials made the right decision to respect these churches’ freedom of religion and speech,” explained ADF Legal Counsel Christiana Holcomb.

Four churches were plaintiffs: Horizon Christian Fellowship, Swansea Abundant Life Assembly of God, House of Destiny Ministries and Faith Christian Fellowship of Havarhill. Several individuals also are named: George Small, David Aucoin, Esteban Carrasco and Marlene Yeo.

The case had been pending in U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts, Eastern Division.

WND reported when the state issued its orders to churches.

“Under [the law] places of public accommodation may not discriminate against, or restrict a person from services because of that person’s gender identity. For example, a hotel or motel may not refuse to book a room for a person because of the person’s gender identity,” the state threatened.

It had demanded that church officials, and even members, use whatever pronouns a person would demand, irrespective of their actual gender.

At the Volokh Conspiracy legal blog, Eugene Volokh pointed out that “churches hold events ‘open to the general public’ all the time – it’s often how they seek new converts.”

“And even church ‘secular events,’ which I take it means events that don’t involve overt worship, are generally viewed by the church as part of its ministry, and certainly as a means of the church modeling what it believes to be religiously sound behavior.”

Volokh continued: “My guess is that most churches would not turn someone away from a generally open spaghetti supper. … But some religious leaders, as well as the church employees and volunteers, may refuse to use pronouns that they believe are inconsistent with God’s plan as revealed by anatomy.”

“Under Massachusetts law, refusing to use a transgender person’s preferred pronoun would be punishable discrimination. (At least this is true of ‘he’ or ‘she’ – I saw nothing in the document about ‘ze’ and other newly made-up pronouns.) The Massachusetts document … makes that clear in the employment context, and it also makes clear that the antidiscrimination law rules apply to places of public accommodations (including churches, in ‘secular events’ ‘open to the public’) just as much as to employment.”

Volokh warned: “Indeed, a church might be liable even for statements by its congregants (and not just its volunteers, who are acting as agents) that are critical of transgender people. Tolerating such remarks is generally seen as allowing a ‘hostile environment,’ and therefore ‘harassment.’ Indeed, the statement … specifically encourages people to ‘prohibit derogatory comments or jokes about transgender persons from employees, clients, vendors and any others, and promptly investigate and discipline persons who engage in discriminatory conduct’.”

WND previously reported on the same issue in Iowa.

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Dec 13, 2016 17:39:13   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
I was giving some thought today as to where we the people stand in America today. From the Elites point of view we are just deplorable creatures to be kept and herded at their whim. I would say this most Americans treasure freedom. We went to the polls and stood for our beliefs. If you on the left keep pushing your going to find a foot up your A** and that's just for starters. You have rights to pleasureful demonstrations, The same Constitution that grants me the right to protect family and property. So keep pushing and you will rue the day you pissed us off.
no propaganda please wrote:
WND EXCLUSIVE
State abandons gender mandate for churches
'Beliefs about biological sex conflict with the government's views'
Published: 19 hours ago


image: http://www.wnd.com/files/2013/04/evangelicals-baptist-church.jpg
evangelicals-baptist-church

A strategy that has surfaced in several states to require churches to accommodate transgendered people by calling their buildings “places of public accommodation” has been reversed in Massachusetts after state officials were sued over the alleged constitutional violations.

The Alliance Defending Freedom says four Massachusetts churches and their pastors are voluntarily dismissing their lawsuit after the state changed its “Gender Identity Guidance.”

ADF brought its complaint in October against Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination commissioners Jamie R. Williamson, Sunila T. George and Charlotte G. Richie, and Attorney General Maura Healey.

Massachusetts makes “gender identity” a special class, granting more protections than ordinary citizens.

Under the measure, the attorney general had claimed “houses of worship” are places of “public accommodation,” and members, therefore, cannot even express ideas concerning “religious expression regarding biological sex and gender identity.”

The complaint alleged state officials decided to interpret the law “to force churches to open church changing rooms, shower facilities, restrooms, and other intimate areas [to people] based on their perceived gender identity, and not their biological sex, in violation of the churches’ religious beliefs.”

In an age when Christianity is openly under attack, one book that champions the Bible as absolute truth is surprising even longtime Christians with amazing facts many people simply don’t know are included in the pages of Holy Scripture. Get your copy of “Shocked by the Bible: The Most Astonishing Facts You’ve Never Been Told” at the WND Superstore!

Now the case is being dismissed, because the state has retreated.

State officials admitted the First Amendment protects a church’s freedom to operate consistently with its faith even when engaged in community outreach activities, such as spaghetti suppers.

The state’s Civil Rights Division chief, Genevieve Nadeau, said, according to ADF, “Your lawsuit caused us to focus on these issues and to make this revision.”

ADF Senior Counsel Steve O’Ban said the government “can’t encroach on the internal, religious practices of a church.”

“The language revisions that our lawsuit prompted should ensure that doesn’t happen,” O’Ban said. “The comments of commonwealth officials gave these churches reason for great concern, and so we are pleased wording changes have been made to respect the constitutionally protected freedoms these congregations and pastors have.”

Healey and the commission both had interpreted the state’s public accommodations requirements to mean churches must make changing gender-segregated facilities and rest rooms open to people according to their “gender identity.”

Explained ADF: “Because those laws also prohibit covered entities from making statements intended ‘to discriminate’ or to ‘incite’ others to do so, the churches and pastors could have been forced to refrain from communicating their beliefs about biological sex because they conflict with the government’s views.”

Before the change, the guidance said: “Even a church could be seen as a place of public accommodation if it holds a secular event, such as a spaghetti supper, that is open to the public.”

It now has been changed to say that the “law does not apply to a religious organization if subjecting the organization to the law would violate the organization’s First Amendment rights.”

Statements on the state’s websites were changed to that effect.

“No church should fear government punishment simply for serving its community consistently with its faith. Massachusetts officials made the right decision to respect these churches’ freedom of religion and speech,” explained ADF Legal Counsel Christiana Holcomb.

Four churches were plaintiffs: Horizon Christian Fellowship, Swansea Abundant Life Assembly of God, House of Destiny Ministries and Faith Christian Fellowship of Havarhill. Several individuals also are named: George Small, David Aucoin, Esteban Carrasco and Marlene Yeo.

The case had been pending in U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts, Eastern Division.

WND reported when the state issued its orders to churches.

“Under [the law] places of public accommodation may not discriminate against, or restrict a person from services because of that person’s gender identity. For example, a hotel or motel may not refuse to book a room for a person because of the person’s gender identity,” the state threatened.

It had demanded that church officials, and even members, use whatever pronouns a person would demand, irrespective of their actual gender.

At the Volokh Conspiracy legal blog, Eugene Volokh pointed out that “churches hold events ‘open to the general public’ all the time – it’s often how they seek new converts.”

“And even church ‘secular events,’ which I take it means events that don’t involve overt worship, are generally viewed by the church as part of its ministry, and certainly as a means of the church modeling what it believes to be religiously sound behavior.”

Volokh continued: “My guess is that most churches would not turn someone away from a generally open spaghetti supper. … But some religious leaders, as well as the church employees and volunteers, may refuse to use pronouns that they believe are inconsistent with God’s plan as revealed by anatomy.”

“Under Massachusetts law, refusing to use a transgender person’s preferred pronoun would be punishable discrimination. (At least this is true of ‘he’ or ‘she’ – I saw nothing in the document about ‘ze’ and other newly made-up pronouns.) The Massachusetts document … makes that clear in the employment context, and it also makes clear that the antidiscrimination law rules apply to places of public accommodations (including churches, in ‘secular events’ ‘open to the public’) just as much as to employment.”

Volokh warned: “Indeed, a church might be liable even for statements by its congregants (and not just its volunteers, who are acting as agents) that are critical of transgender people. Tolerating such remarks is generally seen as allowing a ‘hostile environment,’ and therefore ‘harassment.’ Indeed, the statement … specifically encourages people to ‘prohibit derogatory comments or jokes about transgender persons from employees, clients, vendors and any others, and promptly investigate and discipline persons who engage in discriminatory conduct’.”

WND previously reported on the same issue in Iowa.
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Dec 13, 2016 18:39:35   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
jimahrens wrote:
I was giving some thought today as to where we the people stand in America today. From the Elites point of view we are just deplorable creatures to be kept and herded at their whim. I would say this most Americans treasure freedom. We went to the polls and stood for our beliefs. If you on the left keep pushing your going to find a foot up your A** and that's just for starters. You have rights to pleasureful demonstrations, The same Constitution that grants me the right to protect family and property. So keep pushing and you will rue the day you pissed us off.
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Thanks Jim , I'll be beside ya all the way ,,

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Dec 13, 2016 18:45:49   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
reconreb wrote:
Thanks Jim , I'll be beside ya all the way ,,


Glad that I am not alone in my concerns. Thanks to all who are concerned. We must stand together.

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