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Mar 25, 2013 07:56:13   #
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Mar 25, 2013 18:30:07   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
More sad than it is funny. The left has finally become as tyrannical as the monsters they protested in the recent past.

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Mar 25, 2013 18:58:48   #
Slingblade68 Loc: Charleston SC
 
Yes John ! Hypocrisy reigns supreme. It's all good until it somehow circumvents or undermines the agenda. This righteous ax has been cutting down the Forrest one tree at a time since before Woodrow Wilson . I am not adept with the historical significance of the plight so I am unable to significantly clarify same. However, one only has to ask the question. When is it Our right to deny another's life. Who determines when that organism is considered a Human. When it is merely the size of a peanut, or perhaps already taken out of the womb. Just research the DR in Philly. Those Babies could have survived. He chose to terminate their little insignificant lives. After all he is a Dr.. and we are mere mortals.

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Mar 25, 2013 19:21:56   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
There are two potential answers to your question. One is religious and it says that life begins at conception. The other is scientific and it says that true life only begins after 24 weeks of pregnancy in humans. As troublesome as this is, it is the case. The majority of Americans have, so far, sided with the scientific notion that life begins after 24 weeks. There are radicals on both end of the spectrum. Philosophers are divided on this issue as well. Some philosophers argue that life does not begin until after birth. Others side with the religious.

It is from the ranks of philosophers that the real bone of contention has arisen. Some ancient societies would not recognize an infants citizenship until sometime after it was two years old, in some societies, you would have to be at least eight to be recognized as something separate from your mother. So, insofar as society is concerned, the issue is all over the map. Religion insists that life begins at conception. Science insists that life for humans begins sometime after the 24th week of pregnancy. Some philosophers argue that the mother should have a choice for the entire nine month pregnancy.

I am on the side of the scientists. We should draw the line at 24 weeks.

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Mar 25, 2013 19:40:08   #
Slingblade68 Loc: Charleston SC
 
I am completely discouraged when it comes to placing significance on a human life. My knee jerk response is "Well why not 23 weeks" However, I am going to be rational , furthermore logical and er on the side of caution before I afford you my full opinion. This is after all not a topic that will ever be easily absolved. My heart aches for all those lost little souls. (That would be the Italian Catholic ) in me. Then there is the Pragmatic side of the equation that needs to clarify, rationalize, validate, vindicate my overall answer. It just plain sucks.. that we even have to debate the issue. Nonetheless, we are here.. I will provide a full response tomorrow..

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Mar 25, 2013 19:51:46   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
Slingblade68 wrote:
I am completely discouraged when it comes to placing significance on a human life. My knee jerk response is "Well why not 23 weeks" However, I am going to be rational , furthermore logical and er on the side of caution before I afford you my full opinion. This is after all not a topic that will ever be easily absolved. My heart aches for all those lost little souls. (That would be the Italian Catholic ) in me. Then there is the Pragmatic side of the equation that needs to clarify, rationalize, validate, vindicate my overall answer. It just plain sucks.. that we even have to debate the issue. Nonetheless, we are here.. I will provide a full response tomorrow..
I am completely discouraged when it comes to placi... (show quote)


Please do believe me when I say that you have my heartfelt sympathies, but rest assured that there is nothing that will change my mind. I have already thought long and hard about it. I can find no other workable compromise and like you, I wish that we had not been handed this particular nettle. It is a noisome issue.

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Mar 26, 2013 07:08:36   #
rich278
 
Old white men dictating decisions for black, brown, white women, all of different life situations, with one blanket law. No solutions offered, by either side of the issue. Strictly party lines. Your party would deny a******n, and at the same time v**e against any kind of gun safety. I would like to tell you 1,057,000 people have been k**led with guns in the US since John Lennon was gunned down. Do you remember during the GOP primary debates when the governor of Texas was introduced and highlighted as the governor that executed a number of inmates, and your party gave him a huge ovation, not for being a governor but for the executions. The families of the children in New Town deserve some consideration. Like maybe mental-backround checks on all gun owners, of which I am one Rich278

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Mar 26, 2013 08:46:42   #
InfinityLee
 
actually, every item mentioned after the pro-choice comment remains a choice for a person. Except maybe the coal thing, and that's a corporate, manufacturing, industrial thing. So what's your point?

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Mar 26, 2013 08:49:44   #
InfinityLee
 
my comment was in reference to the cartoon that was stolen from Charles Schultz. I wonder if there are any copy right infringements here. Does someone need to report this potential abhorrent abuse of literary rights?

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Mar 26, 2013 09:13:12   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
rich278 wrote:
Old white men dictating decisions for black, brown, white women, all of different life situations, with one blanket law. No solutions offered, by either side of the issue. Strictly party lines. Your party would deny a******n, and at the same time v**e against any kind of gun safety. I would like to tell you 1,057,000 people have been k**led with guns in the US since John Lennon was gunned down. Do you remember during the GOP primary debates when the governor of Texas was introduced and highlighted as the governor that executed a number of inmates, and your party gave him a huge ovation, not for being a governor but for the executions. The families of the children in New Town deserve some consideration. Like maybe mental-backround checks on all gun owners, of which I am one Rich278
Old white men dictating decisions for black, brown... (show quote)


So you would claim that the kid who shot that woman's baby in Georgia should not be put to death?

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Mar 26, 2013 10:01:04   #
InfinityLee
 
I assume that you do not believe that the murderer should be executed. After all you are pro-life. Womb to tomb right to life, right?

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Mar 26, 2013 10:02:56   #
InfinityLee
 
InfinityLee wrote:
I assume that you do not believe that the murderer should be executed. After all you are pro-life. Womb to tomb right to life, right?


This is a reply to WhoisJohn . . . sorry, just getting started here on this site.

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Mar 26, 2013 10:17:14   #
rich278
 
I didn't say what to do with criminals, your party does. But if you are pro life where do you become pro death, or to say it a different way how do you be pro life and pro death? Are you bi sexual also? rich 278

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Mar 26, 2013 10:25:45   #
rich278
 
The man who shot the baby should just be imprisoned in the general prison population. rich278

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Mar 26, 2013 10:33:40   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
I do not think he deserves to live, but I am against the death penalty for one reason. It is impossible to make amends to a dead person. If the accused is still alive, one may dosomething, however inadequate, about the erroneous conviction. Having said that, there are some cases that are air tight and there is no possibility that the accused is innocent. This may be just such a case.

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