The Amrerican dream: Noam Chomsky After World War II, and pretty much up until the mid-1970s, there was a movement in the US in the direction of a more egalitarian society and toward...

Nickolai

Noam Chomsky

After World War II, and pretty much up until the mid-1970s, there was a movement in the US in the direction of a more egalitarian society and toward greater freedom, in spite of great resistance and oppression from the elite and various government agencies. What happened afterward that rolled back the economic progress of the post-war era, creating in the process a new socio-economic order that has come to be identified as that of neoliberalism?
Beginning in the 1970s, partly because of the economic crisis that erupted in the early years of that decade and the decline in the rate of profit, but also partly because of the view that democracy had become too widespread, an enormous, concentrated, coordinated business offensive was begun to try to beat back the egalitarian efforts of the post-war era, which only intensified as time went on. The economy itself shifted to financialization. Financial institutions expanded enormously. By 2007, right before the crash for which they had considerable responsibility, financial institutions accounted for a stunning 40 percent of corporate profit. A vicious cycle between concentrated capital and politics accelerated, while increasingly, wealth concentrated in the financial sector. Politicians, faced with the rising cost of campaigns, were driven ever deeper into the pockets of wealthy backers. And politicians rewarded them by pushing policies favorable to Wall Street and other powerful business interests. Throughout this period, we have a renewed form of class warfare directed by the business class against the working people and the poor, along with a conscious attempt to roll back the gains of the previous decades.

Now that Trump is the president-elect, is the Bernie Sanders political revolution over?
That's up to us and others to determine. The Sanders "political revolution" was quite a remarkable phenomenon. I was certainly surprised, and pleased. But we should remember that the term "revolution" is somewhat misleading. Sanders is an honest and committed New Dealer. His policies would not have surprised Eisenhower very much. The fact that he's considered "radical" tells us how far the elite political spectrum has shifted to the right during the neoliberal period. There have been some promising offshoots of the Sanders mobilization, like the Brand New Congress movement and several others.
There could, and should, also be efforts to develop a genuine independent left party, one that doesn't just show up every four years but is working constantly at the grassroots, both at the e*******l level (everything from school boards to town meetings to state legislatures and on up) and in all the other ways that can be pursued. There are plenty of opportunities -- and the stakes are substantial, particularly when we turn attention to the two enormous shadows that hover over everything: nuclear war and environmental catastrophe, both ominous, demanding urgent action.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Nickolai wrote:

Noam Chomsky

After World War II, and pretty much up until the mid-1970s, there was a movement in the US in the direction of a more egalitarian society and toward greater freedom, in spite of great resistance and oppression from the elite and various government agencies. What happened afterward that rolled back the economic progress of the post-war era, creating in the process a new socio-economic order that has come to be identified as that of neoliberalism?
Beginning in the 1970s, partly because of the economic crisis that erupted in the early years of that decade and the decline in the rate of profit, but also partly because of the view that democracy had become too widespread, an enormous, concentrated, coordinated business offensive was begun to try to beat back the egalitarian efforts of the post-war era, which only intensified as time went on. The economy itself shifted to financialization. Financial institutions expanded enormously. By 2007, right before the crash for which they had considerable responsibility, financial institutions accounted for a stunning 40 percent of corporate profit. A vicious cycle between concentrated capital and politics accelerated, while increasingly, wealth concentrated in the financial sector. Politicians, faced with the rising cost of campaigns, were driven ever deeper into the pockets of wealthy backers. And politicians rewarded them by pushing policies favorable to Wall Street and other powerful business interests. Throughout this period, we have a renewed form of class warfare directed by the business class against the working people and the poor, along with a conscious attempt to roll back the gains of the previous decades.

Now that Trump is the president-elect, is the Bernie Sanders political revolution over?
That's up to us and others to determine. The Sanders "political revolution" was quite a remarkable phenomenon. I was certainly surprised, and pleased. But we should remember that the term "revolution" is somewhat misleading. Sanders is an honest and committed New Dealer. His policies would not have surprised Eisenhower very much. The fact that he's considered "radical" tells us how far the elite political spectrum has shifted to the right during the neoliberal period. There have been some promising offshoots of the Sanders mobilization, like the Brand New Congress movement and several others.
There could, and should, also be efforts to develop a genuine independent left party, one that doesn't just show up every four years but is working constantly at the grassroots, both at the e*******l level (everything from school boards to town meetings to state legislatures and on up) and in all the other ways that can be pursued. There are plenty of opportunities -- and the stakes are substantial, particularly when we turn attention to the two enormous shadows that hover over everything: nuclear war and environmental catastrophe, both ominous, demanding urgent action.

Noam Chomsky br br After World War II, and pretty... (show quote)

My version of the American dream is that I do not have to watch what I say so as not to offend a special group of people and be fined or arrested for doing so, or get fired from my job because I supported an conservative group that says that marriage is one man and one woman. Which candidate I donated to should not mean threats or loss of my job, that is my American dream. My American dream is that I can home school my kids and not have to send them to be indoctrinated in a public school. My American dream is that I can have a Christmas display on my front lawn, by my church and sing Christmas carols in front of city hall. My American dream is that only US citizens, with proof of citizenship would be v****g for our elected officials. My American dream is that when I am waiting on a customer in my restaurant I can say "God bless you" when I hand them the check. My American dream goes all the way to being able to own a dog with a docked tail, and not get arrested for cruelty to animals, as well as not being required to have the dog spayed if I do not want to. My American dream is that if I don't want to hire a person covered in tatoos to wait on customers in my pharmacy, I should not be forced to do so. In other words My American dream is to have the freedom that God gave me to do my life as I wish, and be only accountable to God Himself

Noam Chomsky and any other Marxist Socialist do not want me to live my dream, and I will fight him and all his ilk until the day I die.

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

no propaganda please wrote:

My version of the American dream is that I do not ... (show quote)

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

no propaganda please wrote:

My version of the American dream is that I do not ... (show quote)

My American Dream is much as yours and I say BRAVO for the clarity in which you so deservingly stated it!!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Nickolai wrote:

Noam Chomsky

After World War II, and pretty much up until the mid-1970s, there was a movement in the US in the direction of a more egalitarian society and toward greater freedom, in spite of great resistance and oppression from the elite and various government agencies. What happened afterward that rolled back the economic progress of the post-war era, creating in the process a new socio-economic order that has come to be identified as that of neoliberalism?
Beginning in the 1970s, partly because of the economic crisis that erupted in the early years of that decade and the decline in the rate of profit, but also partly because of the view that democracy had become too widespread, an enormous, concentrated, coordinated business offensive was begun to try to beat back the egalitarian efforts of the post-war era, which only intensified as time went on. The economy itself shifted to financialization. Financial institutions expanded enormously. By 2007, right before the crash for which they had considerable responsibility, financial institutions accounted for a stunning 40 percent of corporate profit. A vicious cycle between concentrated capital and politics accelerated, while increasingly, wealth concentrated in the financial sector. Politicians, faced with the rising cost of campaigns, were driven ever deeper into the pockets of wealthy backers. And politicians rewarded them by pushing policies favorable to Wall Street and other powerful business interests. Throughout this period, we have a renewed form of class warfare directed by the business class against the working people and the poor, along with a conscious attempt to roll back the gains of the previous decades.

Now that Trump is the president-elect, is the Bernie Sanders political revolution over?
That's up to us and others to determine. The Sanders "political revolution" was quite a remarkable phenomenon. I was certainly surprised, and pleased. But we should remember that the term "revolution" is somewhat misleading. Sanders is an honest and committed New Dealer. His policies would not have surprised Eisenhower very much. The fact that he's considered "radical" tells us how far the elite political spectrum has shifted to the right during the neoliberal period. There have been some promising offshoots of the Sanders mobilization, like the Brand New Congress movement and several others.
There could, and should, also be efforts to develop a genuine independent left party, one that doesn't just show up every four years but is working constantly at the grassroots, both at the e*******l level (everything from school boards to town meetings to state legislatures and on up) and in all the other ways that can be pursued. There are plenty of opportunities -- and the stakes are substantial, particularly when we turn attention to the two enormous shadows that hover over everything: nuclear war and environmental catastrophe, both ominous, demanding urgent action.

Noam Chomsky br br After World War II, and pretty... (show quote)

Sanders was taken out of the game just as his momentum was picking up...You can thank your party's under handed dirty politics as laid out in all the emails...

HONOR~~hardly and this one supposedly on your side.. ..Truly pathetic....

And when Bernie came out all they did was change Bernie name for Trump, also pathetic...

Time to put it all behind us and move forward FOR country...

Is that possible, Nick???

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

lindajoy wrote:

Sanders was taken out of the game just as his momentum was picking up...You can thank your party's under handed dirty politics as laid out in all the emails...

HONOR~~hardly and this one supposedly on your side.. ..Truly pathetic....

And when Bernie came out all they did was change Bernie name for Trump, also pathetic...

Time to put it all behind us and move forward FOR country...

Is that possible, Nick???

If I may butt in--You nailed it on the DNC that pushed Bernie Sanders out of the running. Major mistake for them. It was the way it was done so coldly and the media complied too.. I was disappointed in the Democratic party for that. I suppose I was one of more than a million.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

If I may butt in--You nailed it on the DNC that pushed Bernie Sanders out of the running. Major mistake for them. It was the way it was done so coldly and the media complied too.. I was disappointed in the Democratic party for that. I suppose I was one of more than a million.

That's because you are a man who looks objectively and calls both sides...

It was a huge mistake taking Bernie out, especially how done...

Nothing in politics is polite that's the lesson we already knew but reinforced in the terrible things truly done all for politic in this e******n....

Embarrassed is an understatement ...The laughing stock of the world...

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

lindajoy wrote:

That's because you are a man who looks objectively and calls both sides...

It was a huge mistake taking Bernie out, especially how done...

Nothing in politics is polite that's the lesson we already knew but reinforced in the terrible things truly done all for politic in this e******n....

Embarrassed is an understatement ...The laughing stock of the world...

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

I think the world already knew how corrupted our system
has become. This cycle was more than enough proof.
Jaw dropping corruption.

lindajoy wrote:

That's because you are a man who looks objectively and calls both sides...

It was a huge mistake taking Bernie out, especially how done...

Nothing in politics is polite that's the lesson we already knew but reinforced in the terrible things truly done all for politic in this e******n....

Embarrassed is an understatement ...The laughing stock of the world...

kankune Loc: Iowa

no propaganda please wrote:

My version of the American dream is that I do not ... (show quote)

Hey NPP, what a great post. You just said it all. May God Bless!

Nickolai

no propaganda please wrote:

My version of the American dream is that I do not ... (show quote)

No he does not your dream is just fine

Nickolai

lindajoy wrote:

Sanders was taken out of the game just as his momentum was picking up...You can thank your party's under handed dirty politics as laid out in all the emails...

HONOR~~hardly and this one supposedly on your side.. ..Truly pathetic....

And when Bernie came out all they did was change Bernie name for Trump, also pathetic...

Time to put it all behind us and move forward FOR country...

Is that possible, Nick???

No, Trump is unfit to serve and he and the party will have to answer thec question will the Administration be called the Trump Putin, or the Putin Trump Administration. As far as the Democrats they went off the track in the 1980's when competing with the Republicans for the Tsunami of business cash that began pouring in to our politics in the 1970's they stood silent as the Republicans butchered unions in the private sector. Then pushed through Republican trade bills in the 1990's. They are discovering finally that Republicans are better at being Republicans than they are

Big Bass

Nickolai wrote:

Noam Chomsky

After World War II, and pretty much up until the mid-1970s, there was a movement in the US in the direction of a more egalitarian society and toward greater freedom, in spite of great resistance and oppression from the elite and various government agencies. What happened afterward that rolled back the economic progress of the post-war era, creating in the process a new socio-economic order that has come to be identified as that of neoliberalism?
Beginning in the 1970s, partly because of the economic crisis that erupted in the early years of that decade and the decline in the rate of profit, but also partly because of the view that democracy had become too widespread, an enormous, concentrated, coordinated business offensive was begun to try to beat back the egalitarian efforts of the post-war era, which only intensified as time went on. The economy itself shifted to financialization. Financial institutions expanded enormously. By 2007, right before the crash for which they had considerable responsibility, financial institutions accounted for a stunning 40 percent of corporate profit. A vicious cycle between concentrated capital and politics accelerated, while increasingly, wealth concentrated in the financial sector. Politicians, faced with the rising cost of campaigns, were driven ever deeper into the pockets of wealthy backers. And politicians rewarded them by pushing policies favorable to Wall Street and other powerful business interests. Throughout this period, we have a renewed form of class warfare directed by the business class against the working people and the poor, along with a conscious attempt to roll back the gains of the previous decades.

Now that Trump is the president-elect, is the Bernie Sanders political revolution over?
That's up to us and others to determine. The Sanders "political revolution" was quite a remarkable phenomenon. I was certainly surprised, and pleased. But we should remember that the term "revolution" is somewhat misleading. Sanders is an honest and committed New Dealer. His policies would not have surprised Eisenhower very much. The fact that he's considered "radical" tells us how far the elite political spectrum has shifted to the right during the neoliberal period. There have been some promising offshoots of the Sanders mobilization, like the Brand New Congress movement and several others.
There could, and should, also be efforts to develop a genuine independent left party, one that doesn't just show up every four years but is working constantly at the grassroots, both at the e*******l level (everything from school boards to town meetings to state legislatures and on up) and in all the other ways that can be pursued. There are plenty of opportunities -- and the stakes are substantial, particularly when we turn attention to the two enormous shadows that hover over everything: nuclear war and environmental catastrophe, both ominous, demanding urgent action.

Noam Chomsky br br After World War II, and pretty... (show quote)

American Dream.
American Dream....

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

kankune wrote:

Hey NPP, what a great post. You just said it all. May God Bless!

i truly believe that it is the dream of all freedom loving and God fearing Americans. It is apparently not the dream of those who believe that we are the property of the state as is the case with any socialist "progressive" government.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

lindajoy wrote:

That's because you are a man who looks objectively and calls both sides...

It was a huge mistake taking Bernie out, especially how done...

Nothing in politics is polite that's the lesson we already knew but reinforced in the terrible things truly done all for politic in this e******n....

Embarrassed is an understatement ...The laughing stock of the world...

I suspect that as long as we have a political party with the integrity of the Progressives we will continue to have doubts raised about every e******n they do not win.