Obama Justice Dept. sues NJ township for rejecting mosque (Page 2): You should be sued for being a dummy "Boy".

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

Dummy Boy wrote:

The township isn't following the first amendment, of course they should be sued.

You should be sued for being a dummy "Boy".

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

PaulPisces wrote:

The building of a house of worship hardly constitutes a training ground for jihad, nor the imposing of Sharia Law.

Perhaps, in the interest of e******y, the township should ban the building of ANY house of worship, thereby equally limiting the practice of religion for all.

They don't need a house to worship the moon. And Islam is not a religion.

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

Dummy Boy wrote:

First Amendment?

Dumb ass?

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

saltwind 78 wrote:

Rianni, You just don't get it. The President has the responsibility to enforce the US Constitution. Mosques may be objectionable to some misguided Americans, but Muslims, like every religious group in this great land, have a Constitutional right to have a house of worship, just like Catholics, Baptists, Jews, and all the others. If that precious right is taken away from Muslims, it can be taken away from anybody.

No one said they could not build their what ever. They just can't build it there the could try Yemen.

Radiance3

Rinnai wrote:

Anywhere American law and Islamic law conflict, it’s American law that has to give way.

Islamic s*********ts and Muslim Brotherhood organizations like CAIR have once again called upon their running dogs at the Department of Justice, to impose the sharia and usurp American law for Islamic law. The DoJ has become the de facto legal arm of terror-tied Muslim Brotherhood groups in this country. What small town can go up against the U.S. government’s vast resources and endless taxpayer-funded muscle?

In a striking violation of the establishment clause, Obama’s lawless administration is imposing the Shariah nationwide, allowing the rampant construction of rabats and jihad recruitment centers at a time when we should be monitoring the mosques and restricting construction of Muslim Brotherhood beachheads and Islamic State madrassas.

“Justice Dept. sues NJ township for rejecting mosque,” by Kelly Cohen, Washington Examiner, November 22, 2016:

The Justice Department announced on Tuesday it is suing Bernards Township, N.J., because it denied zoning approval for the Islamic Society of Basking Ridge to build a mosque on land it owns.

The township in December unanimously v**ed down the Islamic Society’s application to build a mosque, which the Justice Department says violates the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act.

In the complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey, the department said the denial was discriminatory based on the Islamic Society’s members’ religion. The denial imposed a substantial burden on the Islamic Society’s religious exercise, according to the complaint, it said.

The complaint also alleged that the township violated the law “by amending its zoning ordinance in a manner that imposes unreasonable limitations on all religious assemblies.”

According to Justice Department officials, the land where the Islamic Society wanted to build the mosque is located in a zone that permitted construction of places of worship as a matter of right at the time of the zoning request.

“As alleged in the complaint, Bernards Township has treated the Islamic Society of Basking Ridge differently than other houses of worship,” said U.S. Attorney for New Jersey Paul Fishman in a statement. “RLUIPA ensures that municipalities must treat religious land use applications like any other land use application. But here, township officials kept moving the goalposts by using ever-changing local requirements to effectively deny this religious community the same access as other faiths.”…

Anywhere American law and Islamic law conflict, it... (show quote)

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The bottom line is I believe Islam is not a religion. Any place in the US are not obligated to accommodate building of Mosques. Islam is a political ideology of Muslims that governs their way of life. Islam k**ls people who don't convert to them. The Quran combined in Sharia law is their legal framework.

Since 8 years ago, under the democrat government, mosques under Islam have sprouted so many all over the US states. Some of them run our public schools, and our kids are required to learn Islam. While our government suspends or remove kids who pray to Jesus. By the way, I a Christian, pay so much taxes to these schools where our kids are not allowed to pray to Christ. This democrat government's reason is separation of church and state. Then why do they allow Islam to be taught in the public schools, if they consider that a religion? This Democrat government has a double standard. This will end soon in Jan 20, 2017.

Religion must not govern. Example: Our Christian faith guides the moral lives of people that provides, love, forgiveness, charities and helping the poor and he weak, healing, compassion, under the guidance of the Supreme God Jesus Christ. E.g. Our country, the USA was born and baptized under the Judeo-Christian faith.

On the contrary, Islam does not fall into a category of religion. It is a form of their government run by Sharia Law. You cannot separate Islam from Sharia Law. The objective of Islam is to k**l all infidels, the most painful means. Read the Quran to believe it. They are all ordered in their book. By their deeds, it is a fact. Islam does not provide love, compassion and charity to all people. It does not forgive. It does not help all peoples in need. Instead they k**l those who don't belong to Islam.

Islam is the opposite of Christianity, or other religion like those who believe in Buddhism, the religion of some people in China or India. Buddhism is peaceful. They don't order to k**l other people.

Gatsby

Dummy Boy wrote:

The township isn't following the first amendment, of course they should be sued.

This lawsuit will soon be DUI (Dismissed Upon Inauguration) by the Trump Department of Justice!

Richard Rowland

PaulPisces wrote:

The building of a house of worship hardly constitutes a training ground for jihad, nor the imposing of Sharia Law.

Perhaps, in the interest of e******y, the township should ban the building of ANY house of worship, thereby equally limiting the practice of religion for all.

Are you now a practising Muslim, or do you plan on becoming one? Attitudes like your's will put an American's life at risk, at some point. These less than human barbarians have no place in a civilised society, they have nothing redeemable to offer.

waltmoreno

saltwind 78 wrote:

Rianni, You just don't get it. The President has the responsibility to enforce the US Constitution. Mosques may be objectionable to some misguided Americans, but Muslims, like every religious group in this great land, have a Constitutional right to have a house of worship, just like Catholics, Baptists, Jews, and all the others. If that precious right is taken away from Muslims, it can be taken away from anybody.

Ever notice how Obama always lectures us about how it's "not American" to deny muslims the religious rights that we here in America take for granted? That's because it's a tactic that muslims, who are actually a governmental system first and a religion second, use to infiltrate into non-muslim societies. Until they have enough numbers to take over that society.
Muslims aren't primarily a religion but are primarily a governmental system. Hence, they shouldn't be given the same rights and privileges that bona-fide religions enjoy in America. If they could get away with it they would use our very freedoms against us to turn us into their backward societies.
Question: how many christian churches, and/or synagogs will you find in a strictly muslim country like Saudi Arabia? Answer: zero. They are not allowed and strictly prohibited. Why: because strict muslim countries don't "enjoy" the "freedoms" that we here take for granted. So there is no reason to allow their cancerous governmental system a toehold into our society. Even if they try to disguise it as a "religion" of peace.

Gatsby

PaulPisces wrote:

The building of a house of worship hardly constitutes a training ground for jihad, nor the imposing of Sharia Law.

Perhaps, in the interest of e******y, the township should ban the building of ANY house of worship, thereby equally limiting the practice of religion for all.

Islam is no more a religion than rat sh*t is. Were I to declare myself the "one true prophet" of the easter bunny, the only true god:

Would I then be entitled to all of the constitutional rights and protections of any other religion?

What if the leader of the KKK declared himself the one true prophet of bullsh*t, the only true god?

J.A.F.I.1946

Great post Saltwind, "facts" always trump emotion. just thinkin'

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

mcmlx wrote:

Land owners don't have to sell their land to them in the first place.

And contractors don't have to build them either. .

They have laws in place they relied on in making their decision...Not having read what specifically it is they are following it..A ruse?? Maybe so, just like the need to build yet another Mosque...???

Have to read some more on this one...

Always enjoy reading your posts!!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

saltwind 78 wrote:

Rianni, You just don't get it. The President has the responsibility to enforce the US Constitution. Mosques may be objectionable to shiome misguided Americans, but Muslims, like every religious group in this great land, have a Constitutional right to have a house of worship, just like Catholics, Baptists, Jews, and all the others. If that precious right is taken away from Muslims, it can be taken away from anybody.

Fair observation..However, from the little disclosed it appears they were not told they could not build one...It just could not be built where chosen...

Maybe the zoning changes affect all houses of worship?? Then where is the discrimination??
More is needed about the changes made to know what was done...

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Richard Rowland wrote:

Are you now a practising Muslim, or do you plan on becoming one? Attitudes like your's will put an American's life at risk, at some point. These less than human barbarians have no place in a civilised society, they have nothing redeemable to offer.

No I am not a Muslim. But I am a defender of our own Constitution and staunch believer in freedom of religion, even those with whom I do not agree and those that I downright dislike.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

PaulPisces wrote:

No I am not a Muslim. But I am a defender of our own Constitution and staunch believer in freedom of religion, even those with whom I do not agree and those that I downright dislike.

I must stand in agreement even if I do not like it as well..

Here, it's hard to call with no more facts disclosed...Is just mosques or does it affect all??

waltmoreno

PaulPisces wrote:

No I am not a Muslim. But I am a defender of our own Constitution and staunch believer in freedom of religion, even those with whom I do not agree and those that I downright dislike.

BULLS**T!! Typical of the libs to try to burrow an "Islamic governmental system of sharia law" into a free democratic society by claiming that Islam is a "religion" of peace. It's NOT A RELIGION! It's a governmental system, spread solely by the sword. No free individual would choose to live under such an oppressive, backward system.
You sound just like Obama, trying to lecture Americans about how it's "not American" to deny others the rights we take for granted. That's why of all the so-called "refugees" Obama brought into this country, over 99% were muslim moles. And less than 1% christians who are the real refugees. For one thing, non-citizens don't have the rights of citizens. Of course Obama wants to fast-track them to citizenship as that's he quickest way to defeat the US. Check out how the muslims have essentially taken over Dearborn, Michigan.
And Angela Merkel has done the same to Germany.
You can get off your high horse about defending the constitution and being a believer in freedom because it doesn't apply to GOVERNMENTAL SYSTEMS. Islam/muslims hide behind being a religion so as to gain credibility.