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Nov 24, 2016 10:38:38   #
Homestead
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania ..... there is a new tactic to oust President Elect Trump.... and it is based on a could have happened computer hacking. Was the system r****d against K**lary? This group of people seem to think so. Mind you, they have no evidence that hacking took place... they just believe that K**lary should have been elected.

"Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and e******n lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes v****g-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private."

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-hillary-clinton-to-challenge-e******n-results.html

"How might a foreign government hack America’s v****g machines to change the outcome of a p**********l e******n? Here’s one possible scenario. First, the attackers would probe e******n offices well in advance in order to find ways to break into their computers. Closer to the e******n, when it was clear from polling data which states would have close e*******l margins, the attackers might spread malware into v****g machines in some of these states, rigging the machines to shift a few percent of the v**e to favor their desired candidate. This malware would likely be designed to remain inactive during pre-e******n tests, do its dirty business during the e******n, then erase itself when the polls close. A sk**led attacker’s work might leave no visible signs — though the country might be surprised when results in several close states were off from pre-e******n polls."

https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to-know-if-the-e******n-was-hacked-look-at-the-b****ts-c61a6113b0ba#.3w3nw6uld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g

If she is going to demand a recount, her time is running out.... but, if she does then all states using electronic v****g and the call was close.... will they also be recounted? Is this just a scheme to keep obama in the White House?

Your opinions are welcomed... read the articles and let's kick this around.... and I am not taking about each other....
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania ..... there ... (show quote)


Hillary is not going to demand a substantial look into the v***r f***d of the v****g machines. She's got enough trouble already, without exposing the coruption of the Democrat Party in their attempt to steal the e******n.

Cinema ModeOff
News Shot: Electronic V****g Machines R****d for Clinton Victory
http://yournewswire.com/george-soros-owns-v****g-machines/

Cinema ModeOff
Hacking Democracy - The Hack
http://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVvYPBzdYg78AcR4PxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=Hacking+Democracy&fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt#id=2&vid=3f8d7e6dd57093e5d27a959887b8d4ac&action=view

George Soros ‘Controls’ V****g Machines In 16 US States
http://yournewswire.com/george-soros-owns-v****g-machines/

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Nov 24, 2016 10:53:34   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I wonder who is bankrolling that fruitcake Stein? Soros anyone?
Gatsby wrote:
It now appears to be almost certain that there will be recounts in MI, PA, and WI.

Jill Stein has raised over $3M to pay for the recounts in these three states, and has stated her intention to do so.

Interestingly, Stein raised only $3.5M for her entire p**********l campaign.

Stein has unofficially notified WI officials, who are preparing for the recount. In WI, the deadline to make the request official is tomorrow.

The deadline to request recounts is 11/28 in PA, and 11/30 in MI.

Obviously, the results would have to be overturned in all three states, for Clinton to overturn the e******n results.
It now appears to be almost certain that there wil... (show quote)

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Nov 24, 2016 11:06:59   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
This is probably a good thing.... once the recount is finished, no one can claim v**er irregularities with the machines. I also rread that in Pennsylvania, President Elect Trump actually picked up an additional 10,000 v**es due to a recount. Would it not be too funny if he widens the margin and comes out the winning the popular v**e? That would make some heads spin around! The other thing worth mentioning, K**lary has said no thank you... we do not want a recount.

This does raise interesting questions.... what if the results change.... what then? Will President Elect Trump demand a recount in the blue states? How upset will the heartland be??? Will there be war over this? Or do you think that President Elect Trump will just through in the towel?

Gatsby wrote:
It now appears to be almost certain that there will be recounts in MI, PA, and WI.

Jill Stein has raised over $3M to pay for the recounts in these three states, and has stated her intention to do so.

Interestingly, Stein raised only $3.5M for her entire p**********l campaign.

Stein has unofficially notified WI officials, who are preparing for the recount. In WI, the deadline to make the request official is tomorrow.

The deadline to request recounts is 11/28 in PA, and 11/30 in MI.

Obviously, the results would have to be overturned in all three states, for Clinton to overturn the e******n results.
It now appears to be almost certain that there wil... (show quote)

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Nov 24, 2016 11:25:37   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
This is probably a good thing.... once the recount is finished, no one can claim v**er irregularities with the machines. I also rread that in Pennsylvania, President Elect Trump actually picked up an additional 10,000 v**es due to a recount. Would it not be too funny if he widens the margin and comes out the winning the popular v**e? That would make some heads spin around! The other thing worth mentioning, K**lary has said no thank you... we do not want a recount.

This does raise interesting questions.... what if the results change.... what then? Will President Elect Trump demand a recount in the blue states? How upset will the heartland be??? Will there be war over this? Or do you think that President Elect Trump will just through in the towel?
This is probably a good thing.... once the recount... (show quote)


I wouldn't imagine Hillary would want a recount since it might expose more dirt on her, and hers.
If these l*****t bullies were to manipulate her into the White House, I think this country will come apart at the seams, and it will be very ugly. We are already on the brink, and they keep on pushing.

It has been shown that us 'nobodies' here in flyover country DO NOT want a nation ruled by those on the coasts.

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Nov 24, 2016 11:42:53   #
slowranch
 
Just one question if we recount, how do we know if the v**es were from
American registered v**ers not i******s as told to v**e by our pres and hellery, got to check that it you check the other.

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Nov 24, 2016 11:51:24   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I agree with you.... I think that the left will not stop, even if the recount does not change the e******n. I wonder, how much did K**lary pay Stein for demanding the recount.... bet that was under the table.

archie bunker wrote:
I wouldn't imagine Hillary would want a recount since it might expose more dirt on her, and hers.
If these l*****t bullies were to manipulate her into the White House, I think this country will come apart at the seams, and it will be very ugly. We are already on the brink, and they keep on pushing.

It has been shown that us 'nobodies' here in flyover country DO NOT want a nation ruled by those on the coasts.

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Nov 24, 2016 11:58:02   #
Airforceone
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania ..... there is a new tactic to oust President Elect Trump.... and it is based on a could have happened computer hacking. Was the system r****d against K**lary? This group of people seem to think so. Mind you, they have no evidence that hacking took place... they just believe that K**lary should have been elected.

"Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and e******n lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes v****g-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private."

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-hillary-clinton-to-challenge-e******n-results.html

"How might a foreign government hack America’s v****g machines to change the outcome of a p**********l e******n? Here’s one possible scenario. First, the attackers would probe e******n offices well in advance in order to find ways to break into their computers. Closer to the e******n, when it was clear from polling data which states would have close e*******l margins, the attackers might spread malware into v****g machines in some of these states, rigging the machines to shift a few percent of the v**e to favor their desired candidate. This malware would likely be designed to remain inactive during pre-e******n tests, do its dirty business during the e******n, then erase itself when the polls close. A sk**led attacker’s work might leave no visible signs — though the country might be surprised when results in several close states were off from pre-e******n polls."

https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to-know-if-the-e******n-was-hacked-look-at-the-b****ts-c61a6113b0ba#.3w3nw6uld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g

If she is going to demand a recount, her time is running out.... but, if she does then all states using electronic v****g and the call was close.... will they also be recounted? Is this just a scheme to keep obama in the White House?

Your opinions are welcomed... read the articles and let's kick this around.... and I am not taking about each other....
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania ..... there ... (show quote)


It serves no useful purpose except to expose the republican v***r f***d agenda of v**er suppression, v**er purge, and v**er intimidation. It's not v***r f***d it's a GOP agenda to prevent poor and working class people from v****g. I have already sent my donation because I want to know how republicans can steal an e******n while losing the popular v**e.
I want to know how it is possible in these three states when Clinton won by 7% more v**es when utilizing paper and optic v****g which there is no way to c***t. But the electronic machines T***p w*n by a good margin. I want to know how it's possible for 80,000 people went to the polls in these states and v**ed but left the p**********l block as a no v**e. This kind of crap had never happened in the history of this country.
The GOP does not need to c***t nationally all they have to do is target a few states, and breaking it down just target a few counties in these states.
Electronic v****g can and is minipulated and I can tell you the poor and middle class have no way of accomplishing it.
This investigation will not change the outcome but it sure as hell will expose a 200 year old system of electing our president thru this e*******l college. When this country v**es for a Predident and wins by well over 2,000,000 v**es and loses there is something wrong.
Donald Trump was right the system is r****d and the party that's doing the rigging are the right wing corporate elite.

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Nov 24, 2016 12:00:04   #
Big Bass
 
Gatsby wrote:
It now appears to be almost certain that there will be recounts in MI, PA, and WI.

Jill Stein has raised over $3M to pay for the recounts in these three states, and has stated her intention to do so.

Interestingly, Stein raised only $3.5M for her entire p**********l campaign.

Stein has unofficially notified WI officials, who are preparing for the recount. In WI, the deadline to make the request official is tomorrow.

The deadline to request recounts is 11/28 in PA, and 11/30 in MI.

Obviously, the results would have to be overturned in all three states, for Clinton to overturn the e******n results.
It now appears to be almost certain that there wil... (show quote)


Hellary has some money left over to help pay.

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Nov 24, 2016 12:01:13   #
Airforceone
 
jimahrens wrote:
Everything since the e******n is leading to one planned event. Believe it or Not ( REVOLUTION )I am by no means a violent person But maybe it should happen, AND FINISH OF THE MINIONS OF FREE FEEDING COCKROACHES. Enough is enough.


I agree and the free feeding frenzy is the corporate elite and wealthy in this country. Guys like Trump pay zero taxes and we pick up the tab. If Trump just paid 10% federal taxes on his $10 billion how many kids could we feed

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Nov 24, 2016 12:14:52   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania ..... there is a new tactic to oust President Elect Trump.... and it is based on a could have happened computer hacking. Was the system r****d against K**lary? This group of people seem to think so. Mind you, they have no evidence that hacking took place... they just believe that K**lary should have been elected.

"Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and e******n lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes v****g-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private."

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-hillary-clinton-to-challenge-e******n-results.html

"How might a foreign government hack America’s v****g machines to change the outcome of a p**********l e******n? Here’s one possible scenario. First, the attackers would probe e******n offices well in advance in order to find ways to break into their computers. Closer to the e******n, when it was clear from polling data which states would have close e*******l margins, the attackers might spread malware into v****g machines in some of these states, rigging the machines to shift a few percent of the v**e to favor their desired candidate. This malware would likely be designed to remain inactive during pre-e******n tests, do its dirty business during the e******n, then erase itself when the polls close. A sk**led attacker’s work might leave no visible signs — though the country might be surprised when results in several close states were off from pre-e******n polls."

https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to-know-if-the-e******n-was-hacked-look-at-the-b****ts-c61a6113b0ba#.3w3nw6uld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g

If she is going to demand a recount, her time is running out.... but, if she does then all states using electronic v****g and the call was close.... will they also be recounted? Is this just a scheme to keep obama in the White House?

Your opinions are welcomed... read the articles and let's kick this around.... and I am not taking about each other....
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania ..... there ... (show quote)


They are self proclaimed computer scientists and they admit they have no evidence other than the areas not using paper b****ts showed 7% fewer v**es for hillary. Waste of time and a load of sour grapes.

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Nov 24, 2016 12:16:16   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I agree with you.... I think that the left will not stop, even if the recount does not change the e******n. I wonder, how much did K**lary pay Stein for demanding the recount.... bet that was under the table.


The left will never stop. They may have to pull back, and regroup because more, and more people are seeing them for what they are. Their dog eared playbook is worn out, and comically predictable. Just look at the leftie posters here. They repeat the same narratives, and buzzwords to the point that they have no meaning any more. Look at PeterS's posts. He uses "Alt Right" in almost every post. I think it's hilarious!

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Nov 24, 2016 12:16:46   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
jimahrens wrote:
Everything since the e******n is leading to one planned event. Believe it or Not ( REVOLUTION )I am by no means a violent person But maybe it should happen, AND FINISH OF THE MINIONS OF FREE FEEDING COCKROACHES. Enough is enough.


Kinda odd that before the e******n it was the right talking tough and now it's the left.

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Nov 24, 2016 12:18:56   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
If our system of v****g was hacked into, it was based upon information they got from Clintons unsecured emails!


Use Sorus. His machines.

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Nov 24, 2016 12:19:54   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
If our system of v****g was hacked into, it was based upon information they got from Clintons unsecured emails!


Spellcheck

Sue Sorus

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Nov 24, 2016 12:20:26   #
Nickolai
 
pafret wrote:
As the author in the link you provided indicated, such recount is prohibitively expensive. To do this in three states unless there is certainty that the count will be reversed would be a colossal waste of money. Further, all the other States using the same or similar technology would be suspect and in some states there is no way to recount.

The Luddite approach (eliminate the technology) would be best but would slow down results enormously. A combination of scanner devices coupled with real time quality assurance statistical sampling can give an indication of the "goodness" of the v**e count. If the error rate per sample is too high then v**e manipulation is certain and complete paper verification would be mandated.

Any system, manual paper, optical scanner, or printed v**er receipt is worthless without verification that the hard copy record matches the machine tallies and most states do nothing with the paper hard copy.

By the way, I have just created some high level jobs because there will need to be a ton of mathematicians to compute the stats to test the accuracy of the v**e. Also some data analysts with computers at each polling place to determine citizenship or multiple v**es. I'm sure NSA has all of that information and they theoretically work for us so they should make the needed information available before the e******n.
As the author in the link you provided indicated, ... (show quote)








Jill Stein raised two million dollars in a few hrs. and there more where that came from if needed

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