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Nov 17, 2016 15:15:00   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Considering the fact that in most places property taxes pay the lion's share of educational costs, is there even one parent of these r**ting students who has contributed a fraction as much as Trump has to education in the states??

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Nov 17, 2016 16:12:13   #
moldyoldy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Considering the fact that in most places property taxes pay the lion's share of educational costs, is there even one parent of these r**ting students who has contributed a fraction as much as Trump has to education in the states??



If only that were true, but nothing about trump is real.

http://wgntv.com/2016/02/17/donald-trumps-multi-million-dollar-chicago-tax-break/

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Trump-Persistent-Fight-Property-Tax/2016/10/26/id/755404/

http://www.lohud.com/story/news/politics/politics-on-the-hudson/2016/06/06/donald-trump-gets-middle-class-tax-relief-again/85501622/

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/time-donald-trump-undersells-tax-time/story?id=39133709

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Nov 17, 2016 16:51:14   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 


I just looked at the first one. You imply that Trump properties pay no taxes but absolutely they do. And, they are not the ones who assess the values to be taxed either. The fact is, even with that type of assessments, the tax burden is huge, and most of it goes to the school systems.

Once again an argument is made or implied that Trump pays less than he should, as if he should just offer more, even though it's not required. That is ignorant. Trumps businesses have to follow the same tax rules as everyone and they don't make the rules either.

As he said, he has a fiduciary duty to his employees and investors to pay as little taxes as is legally possible. He has also said much the same thing as Bernie, that it is ridiculous that a wealthy tycoon pays a lower percentage of taxes than many of his employees.

For those who object, they need to change the way property is accessed. The only chance of changing any tax laws was through his e******n. Electing Clinton would have resulted in even more complexities, allowing for more and more tax breaks to be exploited by many.

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Nov 17, 2016 17:13:14   #
moldyoldy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I just looked at the first one. You imply that Trump properties pay no taxes but absolutely they do. And, they are not the ones who assess the values to be taxed either. The fact is, even with that type of assessments, the tax burden is huge, and most of it goes to the school systems.

Once again an argument is made or implied that Trump pays less than he should, as if he should just offer more, even though it's not required. That is ignorant. Trumps businesses have to follow the same tax rules as everyone and they don't make the rules either.

As he said, he has a fiduciary duty to his employees and investors to pay as little taxes as is legally possible. He has also said much the same thing as Bernie, that it is ridiculous that a wealthy tycoon pays a lower percentage of taxes than many of his employees.

For those who object, they need to change the way property is accessed. The only chance of changing any tax laws was through his e******n. Electing Clinton would have resulted in even more complexities, allowing for more and more tax breaks to be exploited by many.
I just looked at the first one. You imply that Tr... (show quote)


Trump is a crook, he values a property at 3 billion and pays auditors to assess it at 3 million.

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Nov 17, 2016 17:42:26   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Trump is a crook, he values a property at 3 billion and pays auditors to assess it at 3 million.


No one sets the taxed value of their own property. Do you own a house? I got the assessed value reduced by just a bit once by showing pictures of repairs needed. But that was it. Short of a tornado, which can be a boon to a house needing repairs, the property is assessed pretty close to its potential sale value, again, not determined by the owner.

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Nov 17, 2016 18:33:31   #
moldyoldy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
No one sets the taxed value of their own property. Do you own a house? I got the assessed value reduced by just a bit once by showing pictures of repairs needed. But that was it. Short of a tornado, which can be a boon to a house needing repairs, the property is assessed pretty close to its potential sale value, again, not determined by the owner.


He values his property high for sales purposes, he coerces auditors to assess his properties at about 10 % of actual value. You can understand this if you really try.

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Nov 17, 2016 18:36:52   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
He values his property high for sales purposes, he coerces auditors to assess his properties at about 10 % of actual value. You can understand this if you really try.


How does he coerce them?

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Nov 17, 2016 19:39:07   #
moldyoldy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
How does he coerce them?


Money, and lawyers.


The Trump National Golf Club in Westchester County, New York, with its lovingly manicured golf course, gently winding streams, stone bridges, 101-foot waterfall and an expansive clubhouse is, according to Donald Trump, reflective of “a true luxury lifestyle.”
Creating such a “memorable club” is not cheap: Trump wrote on a candidate disclosure form that the sprawling 147-acre private club bearing his name is worth “more than $50 million.”
But when it came time to value the property for tax purposes, his lawyers have argued that Trump National is really worth only $1.35 million. The proposed valuation has bewildered officials in the small town of Ossining, who said the new figure would cut Trump’s tax burden by 90 percent and dump that burden on everyone else.

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Nov 17, 2016 19:56:47   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Money, and lawyers.


The Trump National Golf Club in Westchester County, New York, with its lovingly manicured golf course, gently winding streams, stone bridges, 101-foot waterfall and an expansive clubhouse is, according to Donald Trump, reflective of “a true luxury lifestyle.”
Creating such a “memorable club” is not cheap: Trump wrote on a candidate disclosure form that the sprawling 147-acre private club bearing his name is worth “more than $50 million.”
But when it came time to value the property for tax purposes, his lawyers have argued that Trump National is really worth only $1.35 million. The proposed valuation has bewildered officials in the small town of Ossining, who said the new figure would cut Trump’s tax burden by 90 percent and dump that burden on everyone else.
Money, and lawyers. br br br The Trump National ... (show quote)


Again, this is a legal issue.

I'll bet he pays peppery taxes at a total value of two to three billion dollars. According to you it should be much higher. But even at that, he's still contributing much more to education than any one of those bratty kids folks.

Maybe it should be more. He doesn't have a gun to their head preventing a change in how things are done.

Do you think he's guilty of tax evasion??

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Nov 17, 2016 21:07:21   #
moldyoldy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Again, this is a legal issue.

I'll bet he pays peppery taxes at a total value of two to three billion dollars. According to you it should be much higher. But even at that, he's still contributing much more to education than any one of those bratty kids folks.

Maybe it should be more. He doesn't have a gun to their head preventing a change in how things are done.

Do you think he's guilty of tax evasion??


Tax evasion, non payment for services, fraud, and many other crimes.

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Nov 17, 2016 22:53:53   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Tax evasion, non payment for services, fraud, and many other crimes.


The same things are said of every single wealthy man. To the unwealthy, wealth comes by c***ting.

Now who, in this past e******n cycle, actually c***ted?

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Nov 17, 2016 23:03:26   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
He values his property high for sales purposes, he coerces auditors to assess his properties at about 10 % of actual value. You can understand this if you really try.

Why don't you prove it moldy.

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Nov 17, 2016 23:05:21   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Tax evasion, non payment for services, fraud, and many other crimes.

Prove it or shut up defamation is also a crime.

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Nov 18, 2016 11:21:14   #
moldyoldy
 
kenjay wrote:
Prove it or shut up defamation is also a crime.


There are plenty of law suits going on about it, but you do not care to know facts.

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Nov 18, 2016 11:23:41   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
There are plenty of law suits going on about it, but you do not care to know facts.


Links?? I think I did see something about outstanding lawsuits against Trump.

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