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Nov 13, 2016 01:06:57   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
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http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/305617-seething-liberals-vow-revolution-in-democratic-party

Seething liberals vow revolution in Democratic Party | TheHill
The Republican civil war was supposed to start this week.


Instead, a ferocious struggle has erupted on the left over the smoldering remains of the Democratic Party.

Liberals are seething over the e******n and talking about launching a Tea Party-style revolt. They say it’s the only way to keep Washington Democrats connected to the grassroots and to avoid a repeat of the 2016 e*******l disaster, which blindsided party elites.

Progressives believe the Democratic establishment is responsible for inflicting Donald Trump upon the nation, blaming a staid corporate wing of the party for nominating Hillary Clinton and ignoring the Working Class v**ers that propelled Trump to victory.

Liberals interviewed by The Hill want to see establishment Democrats targeted in primaries, and the “Clinton-corporate wing” of the party rooted out for good.

The fight will begin over picking a new leader for the Democratic National Committee.

Progressives are itching to see the national apparatus reduced to rubble and rebuilt from scratch, with one of their own installed at the top.

And there is talk among some progressives, like Bill Clinton’s former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, about splitting from the Democratic Party entirely if they don’t get the changes they seek.

“The Democratic Party can no longer be the same, it has been repudiated,” Reich said on a conference call with members from the progressive grassroots group Democracy for America.

“This has been a huge refutation of establishment politics and the political organization has got to be changed...if the Democratic Party can’t do it, we’ll do it through a third party.”

Reich’s view is far from universal in his party.

A number of Democrats are fuming over pie-in-the-sky liberals who they say prized idealism over pragmatism.

In an e******n determined by enthusiasm, some blame Bernie Sanders supporters for either not showing up or for suppressing turnout by refusing to rally behind Clinton at an earlier date.

“The Sanders people should be mad at themselves,” said one well-connected Democratic strategist. “If they had come out to v**e, Donald Trump wouldn’t be president. If they were trying to prove a point, all they’ve done is further damage everything they claim to be fighting for. It’s somewhat typical of that crowd.”

Sanders supporters reject that reading.

Jacob Limon, the Texas director for the Sanders campaign, said he v**ed for Clinton and followed Sanders’ lead in rallying liberals to get to the polls for the Democratic nominee.

“Progressives showed up,” Limon said, noting that the e******n in Texas was closer than it has been in 20 years. The problem, he said, was Clinton’s trustworthiness.

Regardless, the left feels ascendant, with the party’s biggest stars – Sanders and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren – carrying a mantle that even some Clinton allies acknowledge is more inline with the zeitgeist.

“One thing for sure is that the Democratic Party will lean more on Bernie than Hillary going forward,” said David Goodfriend, a Clinton supporter and former Bill Clinton administration official.

To some liberals, that means a wholesale purging of the “corporate dominated” wing of the party.

“They’ll hold on to the party mechanisms until you rip it out of their dying hands,” said Jonathan Tasini, a Sanders surrogate. “It’s all about power and money and influence for them.”

The first fight over the party’s future will play out in the race for DNC chairman.

Sanders has endorsed Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) – a Muslim and a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus – to be the new DNC chief.

For many liberals, nothing less than a wholesale gutting of that institution will do.

“Everybody in the building needs to be fired immediately,” Cenk Uygur, the host of the progressive political commentary show The Young Turks, told The Hill.

After that, progressives are eyeing the 2018 midterm e******ns — and potential primaries for lawmakers they believe are gumming-up the works — as the next big fight.

It’s a strategy Sanders has endorsed and his supporters are eager to take up.

“We have to install the playbook of the Tea Party,” said Ohio state lawmaker Nina Turner, a Sanders surrogate. “The Tea Party had mainstream Republicans shaking in their boots. Even the ones that hung on knew they had to listen to what the grassroots was saying. Obviously, we don’t want to govern anything like the Tea Party, but from a tactical standpoint, we have to run and support progressive candidates to keep the establishment honest.”

That burgeoning fight is already frustrating some Washington Democrats, who are fearful that the left will hold them to the kind of rigid ideological purity tests that were once the domain of the right.

That would be counter-productive, said Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.).

“I love [Sanders],” he said. “But I think his objective is very different from the objective of the Democratic Party as a whole…I think he tried to help, I think he did everything he could. But he cannot help if he’s starting off from the wrong principle. And the wrong principle [is]: The enemy of the good is the perfect.”

There are some areas of agreement among Democrats.

The party suffered a rout in the Rust Belt and Midwest states, as Working Class white v**ers abandoned them for Trump.

The Hill reached former Sen. Ken Salazar (D-Colo.), who was in charge of Clinton’s White House t***sition team, as he packed up to leave Washington and return to his farm in Southern Colorado.

“There were people who felt left out of he economy over the last eight years who were never able to get back on their feet, blue collar men and women,” Salazar said. “Donald Trump was able to capture them in terms of emotion and sentiment.”

“Democrats have not done very well in rural America and I don’t understand why that has happened. The broader question is how to have a Democratic Party that can attract those working men and women.”

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Nov 13, 2016 01:28:52   #
Salinger
 
AuntiE wrote:
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http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/305617-seething-liberals-vow-revolution-in-democratic-party

Seething liberals vow revolution in Democratic Party | TheHill
The Republican civil war was supposed to start this week.


Instead, a ferocious struggle has erupted on the left over the smoldering remains of the Democratic Party.

Liberals are seething over the e******n and talking about launching a Tea Party-style revolt. They say it’s the only way to keep Washington Democrats connected to the grassroots and to avoid a repeat of the 2016 e*******l disaster, which blindsided party elites.

Progressives believe the Democratic establishment is responsible for inflicting Donald Trump upon the nation, blaming a staid corporate wing of the party for nominating Hillary Clinton and ignoring the Working Class v**ers that propelled Trump to victory.

Liberals interviewed by The Hill want to see establishment Democrats targeted in primaries, and the “Clinton-corporate wing” of the party rooted out for good.

The fight will begin over picking a new leader for the Democratic National Committee.

Progressives are itching to see the national apparatus reduced to rubble and rebuilt from scratch, with one of their own installed at the top.

And there is talk among some progressives, like Bill Clinton’s former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, about splitting from the Democratic Party entirely if they don’t get the changes they seek.

“The Democratic Party can no longer be the same, it has been repudiated,” Reich said on a conference call with members from the progressive grassroots group Democracy for America.

“This has been a huge refutation of establishment politics and the political organization has got to be changed...if the Democratic Party can’t do it, we’ll do it through a third party.”

Reich’s view is far from universal in his party.

A number of Democrats are fuming over pie-in-the-sky liberals who they say prized idealism over pragmatism.

In an e******n determined by enthusiasm, some blame Bernie Sanders supporters for either not showing up or for suppressing turnout by refusing to rally behind Clinton at an earlier date.

“The Sanders people should be mad at themselves,” said one well-connected Democratic strategist. “If they had come out to v**e, Donald Trump wouldn’t be president. If they were trying to prove a point, all they’ve done is further damage everything they claim to be fighting for. It’s somewhat typical of that crowd.”

Sanders supporters reject that reading.

Jacob Limon, the Texas director for the Sanders campaign, said he v**ed for Clinton and followed Sanders’ lead in rallying liberals to get to the polls for the Democratic nominee.

“Progressives showed up,” Limon said, noting that the e******n in Texas was closer than it has been in 20 years. The problem, he said, was Clinton’s trustworthiness.

Regardless, the left feels ascendant, with the party’s biggest stars – Sanders and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren – carrying a mantle that even some Clinton allies acknowledge is more inline with the zeitgeist.

“One thing for sure is that the Democratic Party will lean more on Bernie than Hillary going forward,” said David Goodfriend, a Clinton supporter and former Bill Clinton administration official.

To some liberals, that means a wholesale purging of the “corporate dominated” wing of the party.

“They’ll hold on to the party mechanisms until you rip it out of their dying hands,” said Jonathan Tasini, a Sanders surrogate. “It’s all about power and money and influence for them.”

The first fight over the party’s future will play out in the race for DNC chairman.

Sanders has endorsed Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) – a Muslim and a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus – to be the new DNC chief.

For many liberals, nothing less than a wholesale gutting of that institution will do.

“Everybody in the building needs to be fired immediately,” Cenk Uygur, the host of the progressive political commentary show The Young Turks, told The Hill.

After that, progressives are eyeing the 2018 midterm e******ns — and potential primaries for lawmakers they believe are gumming-up the works — as the next big fight.

It’s a strategy Sanders has endorsed and his supporters are eager to take up.

“We have to install the playbook of the Tea Party,” said Ohio state lawmaker Nina Turner, a Sanders surrogate. “The Tea Party had mainstream Republicans shaking in their boots. Even the ones that hung on knew they had to listen to what the grassroots was saying. Obviously, we don’t want to govern anything like the Tea Party, but from a tactical standpoint, we have to run and support progressive candidates to keep the establishment honest.”

That burgeoning fight is already frustrating some Washington Democrats, who are fearful that the left will hold them to the kind of rigid ideological purity tests that were once the domain of the right.

That would be counter-productive, said Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.).

“I love [Sanders],” he said. “But I think his objective is very different from the objective of the Democratic Party as a whole…I think he tried to help, I think he did everything he could. But he cannot help if he’s starting off from the wrong principle. And the wrong principle [is]: The enemy of the good is the perfect.”

There are some areas of agreement among Democrats.

The party suffered a rout in the Rust Belt and Midwest states, as Working Class white v**ers abandoned them for Trump.

The Hill reached former Sen. Ken Salazar (D-Colo.), who was in charge of Clinton’s White House t***sition team, as he packed up to leave Washington and return to his farm in Southern Colorado.

“There were people who felt left out of he economy over the last eight years who were never able to get back on their feet, blue collar men and women,” Salazar said. “Donald Trump was able to capture them in terms of emotion and sentiment.”

“Democrats have not done very well in rural America and I don’t understand why that has happened. The broader question is how to have a Democratic Party that can attract those working men and women.”
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In a week before the e******n, Breit Bart, of Fox News, released a damning piece of information: Hillary was about to be indicted. Two early v****g cycles finished before this scoundrel admitted his remarks were "inartful" and then finally admitted he had misrepresented the facts. He got kudos for that, the well-timed apology. What courage to admit you are wrong--meanwhile totally scuttling a p**********l candidate. Oops, my bad. Gollygee, did not mean it.

Do not get me wrong, I did not want Hillary to be president and I am glad she lost. She was the worst thing for America right now. That she may have lost by political sabotage is a curiosity but not relevant. She lost--thank God. Now America, and incidentally the world, has to face what H**e and Smallness and Greed produces, their choice. The whole world is turning from God to autocratic rulers to fix the planet. Trump says evil is good and good evil and the crowds love him and have elected him. Other governments, like Britain, are going the same way. Look at Turkey and Germany. Have they all forgotten that returning evil for evil leads to destruction.

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Nov 13, 2016 06:29:49   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Salinger wrote:
In a week before the e******n, Breit Bart, of Fox News, released a damning piece of information: Hillary was about to be indicted. Two early v****g cycles finished before this scoundrel admitted his remarks were "inartful" and then finally admitted he had misrepresented the facts. He got kudos for that, the well-timed apology. What courage to admit you are wrong--meanwhile totally scuttling a p**********l candidate. Oops, my bad. Gollygee, did not mean it.

Do not get me wrong, I did not want Hillary to be president and I am glad she lost. She was the worst thing for America right now. That she may have lost by political sabotage is a curiosity but not relevant. She lost--thank God. Now America, and incidentally the world, has to face what H**e and Smallness and Greed produces, their choice. The whole world is turning from God to autocratic rulers to fix the planet. Trump says evil is good and good evil and the crowds love him and have elected him. Other governments, like Britain, are going the same way. Look at Turkey and Germany. Have they all forgotten that returning evil for evil leads to destruction.
In a week before the e******n, Breit Bart, of Fox ... (show quote)

"Trump says evil is good and good evil"sorry but I don't recall him saying that,where did he say that?The whole world is turning from God,not in my circle and not in a lot of others as well,the none believers are making the loudest noise but I think the believers helped a great deal to elect Trump,just because they don't make a lot of noise doesn't mean they are not there.The left has done a good job filling empty heads with their agenda(college children come to mind)but the silent quiet mainstream American isn't buying it.

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Nov 13, 2016 08:13:26   #
Gatsby
 
Salinger wrote:
In a week before the e******n, Breit Bart, of Fox News, released a damning piece of information: Hillary was about to be indicted. Two early v****g cycles finished before this scoundrel admitted his remarks were "inartful" and then finally admitted he had misrepresented the facts. He got kudos for that, the well-timed apology. What courage to admit you are wrong--meanwhile totally scuttling a p**********l candidate. Oops, my bad. Gollygee, did not mean it.

Do not get me wrong, I did not want Hillary to be president and I am glad she lost. She was the worst thing for America right now. That she may have lost by political sabotage is a curiosity but not relevant. She lost--thank God. Now America, and incidentally the world, has to face what H**e and Smallness and Greed produces, their choice. The whole world is turning from God to autocratic rulers to fix the planet. Trump says evil is good and good evil and the crowds love him and have elected him. Other governments, like Britain, are going the same way. Look at Turkey and Germany. Have they all forgotten that returning evil for evil leads to destruction.
In a week before the e******n, Breit Bart, of Fox ... (show quote)


H**e Smallness and Greed are the by laws of the Clinton Global Cartel of Crime and Corruption.

Throughout this e******n cycle the left has been Projecting Hillary's faults as being those of Trump. Didn't work very well, did it?

The Clinton campaign, the MSM, and the DNC conspired to Steal the nomination from Sanders. Reap what you sow.

Evangelical v**ers, particularly white evangelical v**ers, showed up big time to v**e for Republican nominee Donald Trump on Tuesday. The statistics reveal that 81 percent went for Trump, while only 16 percent v**ed for Hillary Clinton. It was the highest evangelical turnout since 2004 and it was a 3 percent increase from those who v**ed for Mitt Romney in 2012.

http://americanactionnews.com/articles/these-v**ers-put-trump-over-the-top#riV1uoHAoJYpKAAW.99

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