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Nov 12, 2016 09:22:57   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
I asked a bunch of people what they hoped for the future after the e******ns, and most of them prefaced their comments with "I'm a Republican so..." and "well, since I'm a democrat..........." - as though they didn't have any dreams of their own. The few "Independent" folk prefaced their comments with " since the Republicans are in charge.....", also dismissing their own dreams, for someone else's. How did we get to the point where personal hopes and dreams became subsumed by partisan politics? The phrase "One Nation under God", has been replaced with "One Nation under whichever party gains control", with the fleeting hope that they will ask God's advice BEFORE devising a course for everyone. The most likely scenario will be, them telling God what's going to happen and daring him to correct them.

I saw the dichotomy within the e******n as a whole, where the "outsider" is made President - while a whole host of "insiders" are placed in State legislatures and the Congress. Then, looking at the t***sition committee and potential administration make up of the new President , seeing it the virtual "who's who" of establishment politics and high powered lobbyists, makes me wonder how DC will be shaken up - using political and special interest insiders. Sure, it makes sense if you want to succeed in Washington, in any sense - but that isn't what the President elect was hired to do. Firefighters often use fire to combat fire, of course, so using industry and political insiders to root out corruption in DC might make sense - but firefighters often become victims of their own fires - when the wind suddenly changes direction. If nothing else, the recent e******ns prove how fickle the American people can be.

The principles and laws this Nation was founded under, do not sanction giving complete control of our lives to a handful of people, yet, that's what we do when we sublimate our own desires for those of a particular party. We don't control the party, they control us, and we've become comfortable with that, or more accurately - too many have. Will the GOP give any thought to the other half of America and their viewpoint when crafting new law? That is doubtful, wishful thinking more like, since they view the win as a mandate from the people - even though it is only from half the people, in fact, not even THAT much - as only half of eligible v**ers even v**ed. That means, doing simple math, that the Republicans won 1/4 of the people's approval, that's 1/2 of 1/2. What do the other 3/4 of Americans do with that, grin and bear it? Yep, or whine and complain - uselessly. My personal opinion is, if you didn't v**e - shut up - you abandoned your voice.

The Constitution says that every American has a voice, each voice as valid and powerful as any other, and an equal share in it's governance, but partisanship denies that, giving party leaders a more powerful voice and their political and financial supporters larger shares in the governance of America. It hasn't always been that way, despite what partisan operatives would have us believe. We are not Constitutionally a two party system either, that's a construct of and myth perpetrated by - the two party's. The American people wanted change, and rightly so, then proceeded to do what they always do - ask the rich and powerful to please, please, please - give it to them. When are they going to wake up to the fact, that NO ONE is going to willingly give up power and control? Perhaps, after watching their "change President" bow to the same people they wanted him to eliminate - they'll finally get the picture, but I'm not holding my breath. We'll get change all right - change to what the GOP establishment wanted all along.

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Nov 12, 2016 09:28:01   #
Rivers
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I asked a bunch of people what they hoped for the future after the e******ns, and most of them prefaced their comments with "I'm a Republican so..." and "well, since I'm a democrat..........." - as though they didn't have any dreams of their own. The few "Independent" folk prefaced their comments with " since the Republicans are in charge.....", also dismissing their own dreams, for someone else's. How did we get to the point where personal hopes and dreams became subsumed by partisan politics? The phrase "One Nation under God", has been replaced with "One Nation under whichever party gains control", with the fleeting hope that they will ask God's advice BEFORE devising a course for everyone. The most likely scenario will be, them telling God what's going to happen and daring him to correct them.

I saw the dichotomy within the e******n as a whole, where the "outsider" is made President - while a whole host of "insiders" are placed in State legislatures and the Congress. Then, looking at the t***sition committee and potential administration make up of the new President , seeing it the virtual "who's who" of establishment politics and high powered lobbyists, makes me wonder how DC will be shaken up - using political and special interest insiders. Sure, it makes sense if you want to succeed in Washington, in any sense - but that isn't what the President elect was hired to do. Firefighters often use fire to combat fire, of course, so using industry and political insiders to root out corruption in DC might make sense - but firefighters often become victims of their own fires - when the wind suddenly changes direction. If nothing else, the recent e******ns prove how fickle the American people can be.

The principles and laws this Nation was founded under, do not sanction giving complete control of our lives to a handful of people, yet, that's what we do when we sublimate our own desires for those of a particular party. We don't control the party, they control us, and we've become comfortable with that, or more accurately - too many have. Will the GOP give any thought to the other half of America and their viewpoint when crafting new law? That is doubtful, wishful thinking more like, since they view the win as a mandate from the people - even though it is only from half the people, in fact, not even THAT much - as only half of eligible v**ers even v**ed. That means, doing simple math, that the Republicans won 1/4 of the people's approval, that's 1/2 of 1/2. What do the other 3/4 of Americans do with that, grin and bear it? Yep, or whine and complain - uselessly. My personal opinion is, if you didn't v**e - shut up - you abandoned your voice.

The Constitution says that every American has a voice, each voice as valid and powerful as any other, and an equal share in it's governance, but partisanship denies that, giving party leaders a more powerful voice and their political and financial supporters larger shares in the governance of America. It hasn't always been that way, despite what partisan operatives would have us believe. We are not Constitutionally a two party system either, that's a construct of and myth perpetrated by - the two party's. The American people wanted change, and rightly so, then proceeded to do what they always do - ask the rich and powerful to please, please, please - give it to them. When are they going to wake up to the fact, that NO ONE is going to willingly give up power and control? Perhaps, after watching their "change President" bow to the same people they wanted him to eliminate - they'll finally get the picture, but I'm not holding my breath. We'll get change all right - change to what the GOP establishment wanted all along.
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A crock of absolute crap from a wishy-washy moderate fence straddler.

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Nov 12, 2016 09:29:02   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I asked a bunch of people what they hoped for the future after the e******ns, and most of them prefaced their comments with "I'm a Republican so..." and "well, since I'm a democrat..........." - as though they didn't have any dreams of their own. The few "Independent" folk prefaced their comments with " since the Republicans are in charge.....", also dismissing their own dreams, for someone else's. How did we get to the point where personal hopes and dreams became subsumed by partisan politics? The phrase "One Nation under God", has been replaced with "One Nation under whichever party gains control", with the fleeting hope that they will ask God's advice BEFORE devising a course for everyone. The most likely scenario will be, them telling God what's going to happen and daring him to correct them.

I saw the dichotomy within the e******n as a whole, where the "outsider" is made President - while a whole host of "insiders" are placed in State legislatures and the Congress. Then, looking at the t***sition committee and potential administration make up of the new President , seeing it the virtual "who's who" of establishment politics and high powered lobbyists, makes me wonder how DC will be shaken up - using political and special interest insiders. Sure, it makes sense if you want to succeed in Washington, in any sense - but that isn't what the President elect was hired to do. Firefighters often use fire to combat fire, of course, so using industry and political insiders to root out corruption in DC might make sense - but firefighters often become victims of their own fires - when the wind suddenly changes direction. If nothing else, the recent e******ns prove how fickle the American people can be.

The principles and laws this Nation was founded under, do not sanction giving complete control of our lives to a handful of people, yet, that's what we do when we sublimate our own desires for those of a particular party. We don't control the party, they control us, and we've become comfortable with that, or more accurately - too many have. Will the GOP give any thought to the other half of America and their viewpoint when crafting new law? That is doubtful, wishful thinking more like, since they view the win as a mandate from the people - even though it is only from half the people, in fact, not even THAT much - as only half of eligible v**ers even v**ed. That means, doing simple math, that the Republicans won 1/4 of the people's approval, that's 1/2 of 1/2. What do the other 3/4 of Americans do with that, grin and bear it? Yep, or whine and complain - uselessly. My personal opinion is, if you didn't v**e - shut up - you abandoned your voice.

The Constitution says that every American has a voice, each voice as valid and powerful as any other, and an equal share in it's governance, but partisanship denies that, giving party leaders a more powerful voice and their political and financial supporters larger shares in the governance of America. It hasn't always been that way, despite what partisan operatives would have us believe. We are not Constitutionally a two party system either, that's a construct of and myth perpetrated by - the two party's. The American people wanted change, and rightly so, then proceeded to do what they always do - ask the rich and powerful to please, please, please - give it to them. When are they going to wake up to the fact, that NO ONE is going to willingly give up power and control? Perhaps, after watching their "change President" bow to the same people they wanted him to eliminate - they'll finally get the picture, but I'm not holding my breath. We'll get change all right - change to what the GOP establishment wanted all along.
I asked a bunch of people what they hoped for the ... (show quote)


George Washington warned us about the problems of a two party system.

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Nov 12, 2016 09:46:37   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I asked a bunch of people what they hoped for the future after the e******ns, and most of them prefaced their comments with "I'm a Republican so..." and "well, since I'm a democrat..........." - as though they didn't have any dreams of their own. The few "Independent" folk prefaced their comments with " since the Republicans are in charge.....", also dismissing their own dreams, for someone else's. How did we get to the point where personal hopes and dreams became subsumed by partisan politics? The phrase "One Nation under God", has been replaced with "One Nation under whichever party gains control", with the fleeting hope that they will ask God's advice BEFORE devising a course for everyone. The most likely scenario will be, them telling God what's going to happen and daring him to correct them.

I saw the dichotomy within the e******n as a whole, where the "outsider" is made President - while a whole host of "insiders" are placed in State legislatures and the Congress. Then, looking at the t***sition committee and potential administration make up of the new President , seeing it the virtual "who's who" of establishment politics and high powered lobbyists, makes me wonder how DC will be shaken up - using political and special interest insiders. Sure, it makes sense if you want to succeed in Washington, in any sense - but that isn't what the President elect was hired to do. Firefighters often use fire to combat fire, of course, so using industry and political insiders to root out corruption in DC might make sense - but firefighters often become victims of their own fires - when the wind suddenly changes direction. If nothing else, the recent e******ns prove how fickle the American people can be.

The principles and laws this Nation was founded under, do not sanction giving complete control of our lives to a handful of people, yet, that's what we do when we sublimate our own desires for those of a particular party. We don't control the party, they control us, and we've become comfortable with that, or more accurately - too many have. Will the GOP give any thought to the other half of America and their viewpoint when crafting new law? That is doubtful, wishful thinking more like, since they view the win as a mandate from the people - even though it is only from half the people, in fact, not even THAT much - as only half of eligible v**ers even v**ed. That means, doing simple math, that the Republicans won 1/4 of the people's approval, that's 1/2 of 1/2. What do the other 3/4 of Americans do with that, grin and bear it? Yep, or whine and complain - uselessly. My personal opinion is, if you didn't v**e - shut up - you abandoned your voice.

The Constitution says that every American has a voice, each voice as valid and powerful as any other, and an equal share in it's governance, but partisanship denies that, giving party leaders a more powerful voice and their political and financial supporters larger shares in the governance of America. It hasn't always been that way, despite what partisan operatives would have us believe. We are not Constitutionally a two party system either, that's a construct of and myth perpetrated by - the two party's. The American people wanted change, and rightly so, then proceeded to do what they always do - ask the rich and powerful to please, please, please - give it to them. When are they going to wake up to the fact, that NO ONE is going to willingly give up power and control? Perhaps, after watching their "change President" bow to the same people they wanted him to eliminate - they'll finally get the picture, but I'm not holding my breath. We'll get change all right - change to what the GOP establishment wanted all along.
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It all started, minor, in about 1897, when the immigrating {brilliant} secular Marxists invaded our shores and took over the American MSM and entertainment industries and then jumped right - sorry, "left" in bed with the (D)emonrat Party. Now all the secular/radical liberal progressives {CPUSA, SPUSA, OWS/B*M, MB, MSA, L***Q, Code Pink, etc.}, are trying to merge with the quietly (D)istributed {American taxpayer financed} "Jihad," battle-hardened imports from the Middle-East, "refugee/terrorist" ISIS; and ANY Republican {not just Mr. Trump} who happened to over-ride the 24/7/365 poison arrows this (D) administration and their "lap-dog" (D) media, {and (of course) the RINO'S} were unloading {to (D)estroy conservatism, in general}, stepped right - sorry again, "left" into the current, VERY well-prepared and arranged {administration {taxpayer}/Soros/MB} financed "r**ts in the street." The capitalist anarchists were just a radical/secular liberal progressive "tweet" away.

One recommendation this conservative {ME} may suggest, minor, is that those in the "r**t" mode, {who can read English} may want to thumb-through their Marxist blueprint for "o*******wing the enemy, America," once {again?}, and pay particular attention to "red-diaper" Saul's analogies {and dire warnings} of the 'rapid crushing' of the radical c*******t {Sharia} movement if exposed to American free-market civilization before they are strong-enough to physically o*******w 'US' {American conservative m*****as, military, National Guard and police ("PIGS," as you may know them)}." Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AMERICA, and; GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!! What's that "crushing" noise I keep hearing???

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Nov 12, 2016 09:48:20   #
Homestead
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I asked a bunch of people what they hoped for the future after the e******ns, and most of them prefaced their comments with "I'm a Republican so..." and "well, since I'm a democrat..........." - as though they didn't have any dreams of their own. The few "Independent" folk prefaced their comments with " since the Republicans are in charge.....", also dismissing their own dreams, for someone else's. How did we get to the point where personal hopes and dreams became subsumed by partisan politics? The phrase "One Nation under God", has been replaced with "One Nation under whichever party gains control", with the fleeting hope that they will ask God's advice BEFORE devising a course for everyone. The most likely scenario will be, them telling God what's going to happen and daring him to correct them.

I saw the dichotomy within the e******n as a whole, where the "outsider" is made President - while a whole host of "insiders" are placed in State legislatures and the Congress. Then, looking at the t***sition committee and potential administration make up of the new President , seeing it the virtual "who's who" of establishment politics and high powered lobbyists, makes me wonder how DC will be shaken up - using political and special interest insiders. Sure, it makes sense if you want to succeed in Washington, in any sense - but that isn't what the President elect was hired to do. Firefighters often use fire to combat fire, of course, so using industry and political insiders to root out corruption in DC might make sense - but firefighters often become victims of their own fires - when the wind suddenly changes direction. If nothing else, the recent e******ns prove how fickle the American people can be.

The principles and laws this Nation was founded under, do not sanction giving complete control of our lives to a handful of people, yet, that's what we do when we sublimate our own desires for those of a particular party. We don't control the party, they control us, and we've become comfortable with that, or more accurately - too many have. Will the GOP give any thought to the other half of America and their viewpoint when crafting new law? That is doubtful, wishful thinking more like, since they view the win as a mandate from the people - even though it is only from half the people, in fact, not even THAT much - as only half of eligible v**ers even v**ed. That means, doing simple math, that the Republicans won 1/4 of the people's approval, that's 1/2 of 1/2. What do the other 3/4 of Americans do with that, grin and bear it? Yep, or whine and complain - uselessly. My personal opinion is, if you didn't v**e - shut up - you abandoned your voice.

The Constitution says that every American has a voice, each voice as valid and powerful as any other, and an equal share in it's governance, but partisanship denies that, giving party leaders a more powerful voice and their political and financial supporters larger shares in the governance of America. It hasn't always been that way, despite what partisan operatives would have us believe. We are not Constitutionally a two party system either, that's a construct of and myth perpetrated by - the two party's. The American people wanted change, and rightly so, then proceeded to do what they always do - ask the rich and powerful to please, please, please - give it to them. When are they going to wake up to the fact, that NO ONE is going to willingly give up power and control? Perhaps, after watching their "change President" bow to the same people they wanted him to eliminate - they'll finally get the picture, but I'm not holding my breath. We'll get change all right - change to what the GOP establishment wanted all along.
I asked a bunch of people what they hoped for the ... (show quote)


It's called a representative form of government. This country was designed to be run from the bottom up.

Our politicians have decided that they want to run it from the top down.

Americans used the system to select the person they wanted in Washington.

The way a representative government works is that we come to a consensus by v**e.

No man may rule over another without that mans consent. Our v**e is our consent.

Even once elected, we are a nation of laws and not men and there are limits that our representatives can't cross.

We have had v***r f***d, and all manner of lawlessness coming from those that have sworn an oath to uphold the very laws they are breaking.

In this country there are two paths to correct that, one is with the gun and revolution and the other is for the citizenry to accept their civic duties and act like citizens.

It started in 2010, but it didn't make a dent in the corruption.
The v***r f***d and the apathy of the citizens allowed Obama to get reelected in 2012.
We as citizens hammered them again in 2014 and they still didn't get it.

It took an enormous amount of effort at every level of citizenry to understand what we were up against and to do everything we could to overcome the fraud this time that got Obama elected last time.

Now that we will not be under constant assault by Obama and his edicts we will be able to concentrate more on the e******ns in two years. The GOP had better get with the program or they are going bye bye.

But, most of all the biggest pain in the ass was the dead weight we had to carry of all the naysayers and complainers.

I'm talking about people like you.

Step up to the plate and make a difference or go cry in your beer.

We've still got a lot of work to do and we don't have time to waste on little whiny cry babby chicken littles.

The sky has already fallen, it's time to put it back together.

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Nov 12, 2016 10:06:45   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Excellent



Homestead wrote:
It's called a representative form of government. This country was designed to be run from the bottom up.

Our politicians have decided that they want to run it from the top down.

Americans used the system to select the person they wanted in Washington.

The way a representative government works is that we come to a consensus by v**e.

No man may rule over another without that mans consent. Our v**e is our consent.

Even once elected, we are a nation of laws and not men and there are limits that our representatives can't cross.

We have had v***r f***d, and all manner of lawlessness coming from those that have sworn an oath to uphold the very laws they are breaking.

In this country there are two paths to correct that, one is with the gun and revolution and the other is for the citizenry to accept their civic duties and act like citizens.

It started in 2010, but it didn't make a dent in the corruption.
The v***r f***d and the apathy of the citizens allowed Obama to get reelected in 2012.
We as citizens hammered them again in 2014 and they still didn't get it.

It took an enormous amount of effort at every level of citizenry to understand what we were up against and to do everything we could to overcome the fraud this time that got Obama elected last time.

Now that we will not be under constant assault by Obama and his edicts we will be able to concentrate more on the e******ns in two years. The GOP had better get with the program or they are going bye bye.

But, most of all the biggest pain in the ass was the dead weight we had to carry of all the naysayers and complainers.

I'm talking about people like you.

Step up to the plate and make a difference or go cry in your beer.

We've still got a lot of work to do and we don't have time to waste on little whiny cry babby chicken littles.

The sky has already fallen, it's time to put it back together.
It's called a representative form of government. ... (show quote)

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Nov 12, 2016 10:11:46   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Homestead wrote:
It's called a representative form of government. This country was designed to be run from the bottom up.

Our politicians have decided that they want to run it from the top down.

Americans used the system to select the person they wanted in Washington.

The way a representative government works is that we come to a consensus by v**e.

No man may rule over another without that mans consent. Our v**e is our consent.

Even once elected, we are a nation of laws and not men and there are limits that our representatives can't cross.

We have had v***r f***d, and all manner of lawlessness coming from those that have sworn an oath to uphold the very laws they are breaking.

In this country there are two paths to correct that, one is with the gun and revolution and the other is for the citizenry to accept their civic duties and act like citizens.

It started in 2010, but it didn't make a dent in the corruption.
The v***r f***d and the apathy of the citizens allowed Obama to get reelected in 2012.
We as citizens hammered them again in 2014 and they still didn't get it.

It took an enormous amount of effort at every level of citizenry to understand what we were up against and to do everything we could to overcome the fraud this time that got Obama elected last time.

Now that we will not be under constant assault by Obama and his edicts we will be able to concentrate more on the e******ns in two years. The GOP had better get with the program or they are going bye bye.

But, most of all the biggest pain in the ass was the dead weight we had to carry of all the naysayers and complainers.

I'm talking about people like you.

Step up to the plate and make a difference or go cry in your beer.

We've still got a lot of work to do and we don't have time to waste on little whiny cry babby chicken littles.

The sky has already fallen, it's time to put it back together.
It's called a representative form of government. ... (show quote)








"Our (radical secular liberal progressive Marxist} politicians," Home, and "WE" just kicked their rotten stinkin' Marxist asses OUT of the WH. The useful-i***t r**ts are just the final death throws of "liberalism," and are now showing "US," just exactly why!!! And the B******i lies {"terrorists decimated, and on the run"}, the conservative "tax exempt" {Lerner, WH, IRS} sabotage; AND "the v***r f***d..., got {'Barry'} elected in 2012." What's that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!! "Put it back together;" "CLEAN THAT SWAMP!!!"

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