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Dec 7, 2013 21:56:32   #
votenoobama Loc: Texas
 
Minimum Wage:
Here is what most people don't understand. You cannot every get ahead on Minimum Wage Pay and here is why. It's just like the last Minimum Wage raise that happen two or three years ago, every time you raise Minimum Wage all other cost goes up, from fast food, grocery stores, gas stations, convenience stores, golf courses, movies, theme parks and most anything that you buy. Then the people making Minimum Wage is complaining again because, they cannot afford to live, it's a continue circle. Let's be honest with each other. You can be paid $15.00 per hour Minimum Wage and you still will not be able to live. The only way you will ever get off Minimum Wage is to get a better job that pays more and to get these jobs and you need experience or some type of training or education. One reason we have so many people suffering is because, the U.S., Economy is not growing and will not grow until Obama is out of office. Sense 2009 the U.S.A., has been losing Americans workers. Obama is lying to Americans about unemployment, Do you think it is really 7.0%??? Hell no, it's not. In 2009, America had 50,000,000 million people out of the work force, today it is, 92,000,000 million people out of the work force and it is growing weekly. It's the Highest Ever in U.S. History, it goes all the way back when America started to keep records. America is in the Worse Shape Ever. This is why we have so many Americans suffering and there is no good paying jobs and the new jobs are Minimum Wage Jobs so, there is no Help.
To end this Mess, you will have to V**E the Democrats Out of Office in 2014. The Senate has to be Change to Republican and we have to Keep Congress Republican and changes will start to happen. First off you will see Obama Impeach from office to bring a halt on all of Obama misdeeds to America. In 2016 you will have to V**e Republican for President so we can get America started again and to build the Economy, until that happens we will all be POOR.

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Dec 7, 2013 22:33:45   #
dwcarmi Loc: Clarksville, Tn.
 
I agree wholeheartedly. People were never intended to live on minimum wage. Minimum wage jobs are starter jobs, so if you have to work while going to school. There are apprentice jobs in construction or helper jobs that as you learn you make more money. Internships for professional jobs, although they usually don't pay anything. There are numerous ways to get out of minimum wage jobs. Raising it does no one any good. Prices on all other goods go up when the minimum goes up. It's a never ending cycle. Besides since when does the Federal government have any say in what companies pay employees. They have their fingers in to much as it is. They can't even run D.C. much less a company.

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Dec 7, 2013 22:34:48   #
dwcarmi Loc: Clarksville, Tn.
 
I agree wholeheartedly. People were never intended to live on minimum wage. Minimum wage jobs are starter jobs, so if you have to work while going to school you can. There are apprentice jobs in construction or helper jobs that as you learn you make more money. Internships for professional jobs, although they usually don't pay anything. There are numerous ways to get out of minimum wage jobs. Raising it does no one any good. Prices on all other goods go up when the minimum goes up. It's a never ending cycle. Besides since when does the Federal government have any say in what companies pay employees. They have their fingers in to much as it is. They can't even run D.C. much less a company.

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Dec 7, 2013 23:07:11   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
v**enoobama wrote:
Minimum Wage:
Here is what most people don't understand. You cannot every get ahead on Minimum Wage Pay and here is why. It's just like the last Minimum Wage raise that happen two or three years ago, every time you raise Minimum Wage all other cost goes up, from fast food, grocery stores, gas stations, convenience stores, golf courses, movies, theme parks and most anything that you buy. Then the people making Minimum Wage is complaining again because, they cannot afford to live, it's a continue circle. Let's be honest with each other. You can be paid $15.00 per hour Minimum Wage and you still will not be able to live. The only way you will ever get off Minimum Wage is to get a better job that pays more and to get these jobs and you need experience or some type of training or education. One reason we have so many people suffering is because, the U.S., Economy is not growing and will not grow until Obama is out of office. Sense 2009 the U.S.A., has been losing Americans workers. Obama is lying to Americans about unemployment, Do you think it is really 7.0%??? Hell no, it's not. In 2009, America had 50,000,000 million people out of the work force, today it is, 92,000,000 million people out of the work force and it is growing weekly. It's the Highest Ever in U.S. History, it goes all the way back when America started to keep records. America is in the Worse Shape Ever. This is why we have so many Americans suffering and there is no good paying jobs and the new jobs are Minimum Wage Jobs so, there is no Help.
To end this Mess, you will have to V**E the Democrats Out of Office in 2014. The Senate has to be Change to Republican and we have to Keep Congress Republican and changes will start to happen. First off you will see Obama Impeach from office to bring a halt on all of Obama misdeeds to America. In 2016 you will have to V**e Republican for President so we can get America started again and to build the Economy, until that happens we will all be POOR.
Minimum Wage: br Here is what most people don't un... (show quote)


Wages, as well as hours, wotking conditions, perks, etc ate private business agreements between employers and em[lpyees. Government has no constirutional authority to meddle in those private business agreements.

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Dec 7, 2013 23:09:29   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
dwcarmi wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly. People were never intended to live on minimum wage. Minimum wage jobs are starter jobs, so if you have to work while going to school you can. There are apprentice jobs in construction or helper jobs that as you learn you make more money. Internships for professional jobs, although they usually don't pay anything. There are numerous ways to get out of minimum wage jobs. Raising it does no one any good. Prices on all other goods go up when the minimum goes up. It's a never ending cycle. Besides since when does the Federal government have any say in what companies pay employees. They have their fingers in to much as it is. They can't even run D.C. much less a company.
I agree wholeheartedly. People were never intended... (show quote)


I have to agree with you about the federal government being involved in wages. I also wonder how many minimum wage people actually know that when you push that wage up to $15 per hour other people will demand that they get more money since the minimums have been pushed up so near them. I am sure there are a number of people in this country who aren't making any more than $15 per hour that will want to go up drastically to get them back to where they were. This is only something that politicians want to use to gain some v**es and nothing at all other than that.

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Dec 7, 2013 23:35:35   #
larry
 
oldroy wrote:
I have to agree with you about the federal government being involved in wages. I also wonder how many minimum wage people actually know that when you push that wage up to $15 per hour other people will demand that they get more money since the minimums have been pushed up so near them. I am sure there are a number of people in this country who aren't making any more than $15 per hour that will want to go up drastically to get them back to where they were. This is only something that politicians want to use to gain some v**es and nothing at all other than that.
I have to agree with you about the federal governm... (show quote)


I confess, that I do not understand the minimum wage theory. What are we trying to do in making menial jobs worth more money? The same people that are working these jobs now know that they are dead end jobs, Just fillers until they get the experience and knowledge to do something they really want to do.
Of course there are people that cannot improve their working worth because of other factors in their life, but that is not the problem of the employer. If no one will work for what he is offering, he will have to raise his wage scale until someone does take the job. If they won't, he has to think of some other way to get the job done, or raise the rate. It is a business decision, not a government function. The government has no business setting wage scales. except on government jobs where they are the employer. There are too many do-gooders
trying to affect things they have no business meddling with.

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Dec 7, 2013 23:55:37   #
dwcarmi Loc: Clarksville, Tn.
 
It took me a long time to make that much money an hour. I started working when I was 11 for a dollar an hour. My next job was $2.00 when I was 16 I was making 3.25 and thought I was making a lot of money. In 1973 I worked for Hughes' Tool Company at $11.00 an hour which at the time was a great. That how ever didn't last and they had a huge layoff. I worked 5 years at 10 an hour. So it helps no one to raise the minimum wage. I started working before there was such a thing. I've never work for the minimum. If you never want to advance or to better yourself you'll never go anywhere. All it takes is a good work ethic and a will to advance yourself.
oldroy wrote:
I have to agree with you about the federal government being involved in wages. I also wonder how many minimum wage people actually know that when you push that wage up to $15 per hour other people will demand that they get more money since the minimums have been pushed up so near them. I am sure there are a number of people in this country who aren't making any more than $15 per hour that will want to go up drastically to get them back to where they were. This is only something that politicians want to use to gain some v**es and nothing at all other than that.
I have to agree with you about the federal governm... (show quote)

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Dec 7, 2013 23:59:36   #
dwcarmi Loc: Clarksville, Tn.
 
It took me a long time to make that much money an hour. I started working when I was 11 for a dollar an hour. My next job was $2.00 when I was 16 I was making 3.25 and thought I was making a lot of money. In 1973 I worked for Hughes' Tool Company at $11.00 an hour which at the time was a great. That how ever didn't last and they had a huge layoff. I worked 5 years at 10 an hour. So it helps no one to raise the minimum wage. I started working before there was such a thing. I've never work for the minimum. If you never want to advance or to better yourself you'll never go anywhere. All it takes is a good work ethic and a will to advance yourself. the minimum is just meant as a starting point. You can't start at the top. Nobody starts at the top. No one is supposed to be able to be comfortable and expect to make a living at minimum wage. That's supposed to be the bottom of the ladder. You have to start some where.
oldroy wrote:
I have to agree with you about the federal government being involved in wages. I also wonder how many minimum wage people actually know that when you push that wage up to $15 per hour other people will demand that they get more money since the minimums have been pushed up so near them. I am sure there are a number of people in this country who aren't making any more than $15 per hour that will want to go up drastically to get them back to where they were. This is only something that politicians want to use to gain some v**es and nothing at all other than that.
I have to agree with you about the federal governm... (show quote)

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Dec 8, 2013 02:37:28   #
Quizzal Loc: TN
 
Why not just have graduated minimum wages? A teenager could be at one level and a 18 yr old at another minimum wage level. Would/could mean just about the same as it does right now.
Graduated work levels could/should earn more according to one's ability. Maybe if the word "minimum" was completely omitted in any reference to working/employment by others, might be less confusing to people.

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Dec 8, 2013 02:44:20   #
Quizzal Loc: TN
 
Also, why not have a law to let 12 - 17 year olds work a certain number of hours a day legally? Just might keep them out of trouble and also be teaching them the value of money at the same time.

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Dec 8, 2013 08:16:48   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
dwcarmi wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly. People were never intended to live on minimum wage. Minimum wage jobs are starter jobs, so if you have to work while going to school. There are apprentice jobs in construction or helper jobs that as you learn you make more money. Internships for professional jobs, although they usually don't pay anything. There are numerous ways to get out of minimum wage jobs. Raising it does no one any good. Prices on all other goods go up when the minimum goes up. It's a never ending cycle. Besides since when does the Federal government have any say in what companies pay employees. They have their fingers in to much as it is. They can't even run D.C. much less a company.
I agree wholeheartedly. People were never intended... (show quote)

They can't even tie their damn shoes without a committee consensus.

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Dec 8, 2013 08:24:13   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Quizzal wrote:
Why not just have graduated minimum wages? A teenager could be at one level and a 18 yr old at another minimum wage level. Would/could mean just about the same as it does right now.
Graduated work levels could/should earn more according to one's ability. Maybe if the word "minimum" was completely omitted in any reference to working/employment by others, might be less confusing to people.


Minimum wage jobs are unsk**led. They are not supposed to be a career. Once more, how many people in these jobs ignore chances to better themselves via education, so they CAN get a better paying job? How many willingly choose to party and watch brainless TV shows, rather than study, then demand more money for doing the same job? This may be too broad a brush, but many people on minimum wage are there due to their own poor choices, and stay there for the same reason.I have been forced by circumstances twice to work minimum wage jobs, for a couple of months each. It was a stop gap until something better came along. If you apply yourself, and learn something, you will be in a position to take advantage of an opportunity when it arises. If not, you won't. While this is not always the case, it is usually the case.

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Dec 8, 2013 08:50:23   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
Quizzal wrote:
Why not just have graduated minimum wages? A teenager could be at one level and a 18 yr old at another minimum wage level. Would/could mean just about the same as it does right now.
Graduated work levels could/should earn more according to one's ability. Maybe if the word "minimum" was completely omitted in any reference to working/employment by others, might be less confusing to people.


Why not have laws prohibiting government meddling in private busines?

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Dec 8, 2013 09:05:37   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
hprinze wrote:
Why not have laws prohibiting government meddling in private busines?


Congress cannot resist meddling in something that isnt their business to meddle in. They would never allow that.

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Dec 8, 2013 09:07:42   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Congress cannot resist meddling in something that isnt their business to meddle in. They would never allow that.


It would be nice if they would meddle in their own business, instead of everyone else's.

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