Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Ps. 46:7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding.8 God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness.

Daniel 2:20 "Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his: 21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings:..."

Daniel 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

Daniel 4:25 "... till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.[4:32]

Jeremiah 27:5 I have made the earth, the man and the beast that are upon the ground, by my great power and by my outstretched arm, and have given it unto whom it seemed meet unto me. 6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him.7 And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him.8 And it shall come to pass, that the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the LORD, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand.9 Therefore hearken not ye to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your sorcerers, which speak unto you, saying, Ye shall not serve the king of Babylon:


God has always watched how Men behave in their natural habitat, whether the Nation, the State, the City, or the local tribe. If they become an Abominable group, He will judge them according to their deeds.

Since America became the Abominable pursuer of Homosexuality, and Abortion, (Baby Murder on demand) The nation has not prospered, and in fact has gone down hill since the stupidity of the 60's with their practices of "Free Love" and other "Popular" behaviours that flouted the laws of civilization.

I remember when a national leader stated on the record, "You can do anything you want to do, you only hurt yourself." THAT became a popular cry for a Society in rebellion against morality and decency.

I know for a fact, there have been enough voices raised in this election session, who cried to God "Give us the leader of YOUR CHOICE" and we will accept whatever YOU decide. We only ask that you give us one who will return this nation back to YOU in humility and repentance.

No longer stand by while Homosexuality rams "Gay pride" upon our collective soul; nor when Abortionists claim the right to murder the unborn under the falsehood that "No one knows at what point a fetus begins new life.

I can prove a fetus was alive prior to being a fetus, prior to when it became a zygote, prior to when the Sperm joined to the egg in the womb. If an any point in the process, it had not been "alive" it would by definition be "Dead." But the life of the offspring did not "begin"
at any perceived "point of conception," Rather it began in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve, and has come down through every generation without variation, from the first parents, and has replicated in the same fashion with neither variation nor failure.

I can even tell the Scientist how life is invested in the zygote, the fetus, and every step in the process, because God told us a long time ago, and no scientist has ever superceded that instruction, nor developed a viable alternate process.

The "Life is in the blood" which is passed by an Umbilical process into the Placenta, to the developing babe in the womb.

If science will just examine the process of life passing from one generation to another, by the study of how life passes by the process of "Blood," they can then stand silent in appreciation of "God told us in the beginning, and we weren't listening."

To kill the unborn is the greatest crime a nation can commit against Humanity, and against God from whom all new life comes as a gift from God.

We need desperately to get word to a sinful and lustful nation, it is time to take advantage of one last chance given to us by that same God, to straighten out our national "Arrogance" under the guise of "Pride" and humbly beg forgiveness for our stupidity, and return to seeking what is right and honest in the sight of God.

What say ye?

bahmer

Amen and Amen and now we start the process of informing the uninformed and the proud and the arrogant of their sins and their need for a savior and how Donald Trump came about to be elected and how Hillary Clinton in her arrogance and pride came to destruction. They shall come to know what their college professors told was not true is true after all. They shall learn that there is a God after all and that this God is alive and still controls the earth and His creation and man is living here by His grace and nothing else. They will also learn that God is coming again and will return and rule over the earth as prophesied in the Bible.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Agreed, However MY focus is more centered on those who claim Church affiliation, but who have believed the current false understanding of "God is love" means we are to just love everybody, because after all, we are all sinners."

Our focus should be on acknowledging MY fault of yielding to temptation, ignoring God's help to overcome it, because I like those things by which I am tempted. Then, When we pray as the publican did in Luke - to be counted as one among many -

"The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, NOT "God be merciful to me a sinner"- but GOD BE MERCIFUL TO ME THE SINNER."

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."[Luke 18:11-14]

This man never claimed to be "A" sinner, rather he acknowledged that in his relationship to God, "I, the man, am "THE" sinner; not one among many, but significant in my own significance.

The translators cannot admit the sinful "Self" without inclusion of the many, by declaring "since we are all sinners, consider me to be simply one among many."

No, in my relationship to the Father, He is the God, I am "THE SINNER." I admit it;, nay I claim it; no I own it. And I repent thereof, and seek first His forgiveness, then His guidance; and THEN His favour.

Then I seek to begin to teach the Saints of the Church, stop admitting Homosexual teachers and Ministers; Stop murdering the unborn, they are gifts from God; and STOP fooling ourselves into thinking we are shining examples, until in fact we shine AS examples in a sinful society.

God be praised for His mercy and patience with His humble servant.

bahmer

Amen and Amen and include me in that as well. Well stated thank you.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

You are welcome. And an inspiration to me.

I sometimes get exasperated by a perception that Christians believe it is their "duty" to make laws for the world around us. Then, when they gain political power, begin to make moral laws that should be directed to the Church, not to the world.

Sinners are directed to the church by sermons that convict and inspire, not by laws that coerce. It was Paul the Apostle who championed this concept, of "Gospel to sinners, laws to Christians.

Look at how the arrangement was developed in the origin of the church:

CHRISTIANS ARE ALL PRIESTS, PRAYING FOR THE LOST WORLD OF MEN.
1 Pet 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

AND JESUS IS OUR HIGH PRIEST:
Heb 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

AND WE ARE MADE PRIESTS UNTO GOD:
Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

AS PRIESTS, WE ARE TO MAKE LIVING SACRIFICE TO GOD, BY SACRIFICING OUR LIVING LIFE, GIVEN OVER TO PRAYER AND SANCTITY OF SPEACH AND BEHAVIOUR:
Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

AS SAINTS OF GOD WE ARE A TEMPLE IN WHICH GOD DWELLS:
2 Cor 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

OUR TASK IS ONE OF EDUCATION AND SACRIFICE AND PRAYER:
Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this will we do, if God permit. 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

OUR FOCUS IS TO TEACH THE CHURCH AND BE EXAMPLE TO THE WORLD:
1 Cor 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Instead, we are taught to be examples to the church and gain political power so we can legislate morality to the world. THAT is GOD'S place to operate, because it is GOD who is their judge.

bahmer

Yes but we have a number of Christians who beat the world over the head with what is right and what is wrong and try and force it down their throat and then can't understand why they reject our teaching. Yet we reject their teaching of liberalism and they the liberals do the same to us and we find it offensive so why do we do it to them.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

I think it is because we feel a need to be recognized for our perceived righteousness, and superiority over those who not among our own righteous number.

Sometimes we even deign to debate leaders of other church groups to show our own acumen in religious thinking. The real contest should be me sinful with me righteous. When I can honestly consider my own failings, I may then learn to be gracious to others who having seen my "example" of righteousness, emulate my own behaviour, and then cannot understand when I point out the enormous flaw in their eye, having failed to see my own because of the enormity of the splinter in my own eye.

Will we ever learn? We can only hope, because "Hope" is of tomorrow, while flaws belong to today.