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Dec 5, 2013 09:58:49   #
Puds Loc: So Centrl MN
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg

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Dec 5, 2013 10:56:25   #
bahmer
 
Puds wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg


So now we are all animals?

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Dec 5, 2013 11:06:24   #
Puds Loc: So Centrl MN
 
Of course. Equal reward for comparable effort even among
"lesser" primates. The stickler(s) among humans is biased
perspective of comparable effort.

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Dec 5, 2013 12:24:14   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
We were always animals and we're the same way, some of us are fine with what we have while others always want what someone else has.


bahmer wrote:
So now we are all animals?

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Dec 5, 2013 12:33:36   #
bahmer
 
bmac32 wrote:
We were always animals and we're the same way, some of us are fine with what we have while others always want what someone else has.


I guess I should have rephrased that to having a brain and being able to think as opposed to just having basic instincts.

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Dec 5, 2013 12:39:39   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I figured you knew that but that was a simple way of showing how many have gone back to basic instincts, the he has it, I want it crowd.


bahmer wrote:
I guess I should have rephrased that to having a brain and being able to think as opposed to just having basic instincts.

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Dec 7, 2013 10:53:04   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
bmac32 wrote:
We were always animals and we're the same way, some of us are fine with what we have while others always want what someone else has.


It never is truly answered:

Why do some people feel so strongly that it is right to have more for those that have more & yet it is bad for those that have less to wish or ask for more?

Is there a point some where between that there is fairness?

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Dec 7, 2013 11:26:47   #
bahmer
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
It never is truly answered:

Why do some people feel so strongly that it is right to have more for those that have more & yet it is bad for those that have less to wish or ask for more?

Is there a point some where between that there is fairness?


I always told my kids that there are two basic rules in life and they are rule No. 1 life isn't fair and rule No. 2 is similar and that is there is no such thing as a free lunch. So for those that have more it is their prerogative to give to others or keep it to themselves and their family. For those who wish for more it is their prerogative to go to school and get an education that qualifies them for something in life like a doctor, lawyer, business degree, engineer or some other field in society. If one cannot afford or desire an education then the road has always been and will always be hard work and an imagination. Hard work and an imagination have brought many out of poverty and into wealth. Not all business adventures turn out great and that is where if history were still taught today and not being rewritten all of the time, children would realize that a lot of our inventors in this country started businesses and they went bankrupt and then they would start over again. It is the defeatist attitude that destroys people not the hard work.

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Dec 7, 2013 12:06:49   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
bahmer wrote:
I always told my kids that there are two basic rules in life and they are rule No. 1 life isn't fair and rule No. 2 is similar and that is there is no such thing as a free lunch. So for those that have more it is their prerogative to give to others or keep it to themselves and their family. For those who wish for more it is their prerogative to go to school and get an education that qualifies them for something in life like a doctor, lawyer, business degree, engineer or some other field in society. If one cannot afford or desire an education then the road has always been and will always be hard work and an imagination. Hard work and an imagination have brought many out of poverty and into wealth. Not all business adventures turn out great and that is where if history were still taught today and not being rewritten all of the time, children would realize that a lot of our inventors in this country started businesses and they went bankrupt and then they would start over again. It is the defeatist attitude that destroys people not the hard work.
I always told my kids that there are two basic rul... (show quote)


What you say is what makes life & our way of life strong.

As I see it there has to be a time in or lives when we look around & say I have a good life & if more people were like me & had what I have the world would be better.

You always hear about reaching a point & saying I want to give back. If you were to say that would it mean that you think you took to much?

I say there should be a time in ones life that you say I have enough & don't wish to take as much.

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Dec 7, 2013 12:20:01   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
That my friend is people's God given right along with how their brought up. Some are brought up to work for what they need or want while others would rather steal.



Floyd Brown wrote:
It never is truly answered:

Why do some people feel so strongly that it is right to have more for those that have more & yet it is bad for those that have less to wish or ask for more?

Is there a point some where between that there is fairness?

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Dec 7, 2013 12:24:35   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
bmac32 wrote:
That my friend is people's God given right along with how their brought up. Some are brought up to work for what they need or want while others would rather steal.


Just what are you views on the Fed, banking system & wall street?

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Dec 7, 2013 12:26:11   #
bahmer
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
What you say is what makes life & our way of life strong.

As I see it there has to be a time in or lives when we look around & say I have a good life & if more people were like me & had what I have the world would be better.

You always hear about reaching a point & saying I want to give back. If you were to say that would it mean that you think you took to much?

I say there should be a time in ones life that you say I have enough & don't wish to take as much.
What you say is what makes life & our way of l... (show quote)


There is a point in each individuals life where he or she may say that I have enough and wish to give back and that is where the stickler comes in. Each individual is unique and individuals all have different points of where they say that they have enough. It is up to the said individual to set those standards for him or her and go from there. It is not the governments role nor should it be for them to say you have to much or that you have to little. It is a free society and worked very well when local churches and charities were in place and helped those people to their feet and helped them with employment and getting their lifes in order. Now all they want is a hand out because our illustrious leader is running around preaching about what is fair and what is not fair. It is not his decision to make, not now nor ever as to what is or is not fair. He van take of those matters with his children and leave the rest of us alone. Socialism has not now nor ever will work in society because it destroys the creativity and industriousness of that society.

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Dec 7, 2013 12:31:30   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
They is no real Fed, the banking system is run by a handful of none politicians and Wall Street is a group of reactionaries.



Floyd Brown wrote:
Just what are you views on the Fed, banking system & wall street?

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Dec 7, 2013 12:52:14   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
bahmer wrote:
There is a point in each individuals life where he or she may say that I have enough and wish to give back and that is where the stickler comes in. Each individual is unique and individuals all have different points of where they say that they have enough. It is up to the said individual to set those standards for him or her and go from there. It is not the governments role nor should it be for them to say you have to much or that you have to little. It is a free society and worked very well when local churches and charities were in place and helped those people to their feet and helped them with employment and getting their lifes in order. Now all they want is a hand out because our illustrious leader is running around preaching about what is fair and what is not fair. It is not his decision to make, not now nor ever as to what is or is not fair. He van take of those matters with his children and leave the rest of us alone. Socialism has not now nor ever will work in society because it destroys the creativity and industriousness of that society.
There is a point in each individuals life where he... (show quote)


In no way did I mean to imply that it was any thing but a personal issue.

I believe that many people believe this way now.

But if more of us can make that personal choice & let others know it may bring others to do likewise.

What I think I meant that there are those in business that should keep doing what they are doing but see that their customers & employees get a better deal. These businesses would more likely to do better & in a way force others to do the same.

When presented with the knowledge of great greed by others one has to be greedy just to get by.

I think that this is a large part of the problems we are having. today.

I feel that while I would like to be able to keep up with what I need to get by the way things are going I just don't know what I will need tomorrow. I am sure that many feel as I do.

I have a great faith in myself & the people in general that with a few changes with the money changers things can get better with out a disruption in our life's.

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