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Oct 21, 2016 13:08:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JFlorio wrote:
Anyone watching? Thoughts?


I watched the CNN analysis after the debate.
It was hard to endure, but I needed to watch the spin that was sure to come.
The Talking Heads harped on Trump's not pre promising to abide by the e******n results. It was "horrendous" according to a couple of them. "Unheard of"!!!. While ignoring the points Trump got across.
.
Now they will cut and paste the sound bites 24/7, to paint a picture for those that did not watch the debate. That is how it works.
That is how they get the unsuspecting sheeple to v**e for their candidates of choice.

These are journalists??????

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Oct 21, 2016 13:10:09   #
Big Bass
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I watched the CNN analysis after the debate.
It was hard to endure, but I needed to watch the spin that was sure to come.
The Talking Heads harped on Trump's not pre promising to abide by the e******n results. It was "horrendous" according to a couple of them. "Unheard of"!!!. While ignoring the points Trump got across.
.
Now they will cut and paste the sound bites 24/7, to paint a picture for those that did not watch the debate. That is how it works.
That is how they get the unsuspecting sheeple to v**e for their candidates of choice.

These are journalists??????
I watched the CNN analysis after the debate. br It... (show quote)


No! They are propagandists.

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Oct 21, 2016 13:12:14   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Big Bass wrote:
No! They are propagandists.


No! They're just plain evil.

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Oct 21, 2016 13:14:44   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Big Bass wrote:
No! They are propagandists.


At least their viewership ratings reflect that!

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Oct 21, 2016 13:24:52   #
Big Bass
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
No! They're just plain evil.

That, too. They have destroyed the reputation of the Fifth Estate, and should be banned from using the term "News." (Along with the other propaganda channels, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc.)
Their s*******s tactics may work in backward nations, but the majority of rightwing Americans can see right through them, and that is what distinguishes the right from the left.

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Oct 21, 2016 13:25:42   #
Big Bass
 
eagleye13 wrote:
At least their viewership ratings reflect that!


Yes, low and sinking fast.

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Oct 21, 2016 13:35:22   #
Morgan
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - well, I agree that simply v****g FOR her because she is a woman is a silly reason. But ya know, I've spent quite a bit of time trying to get to the real reason why people are v****g against her. It seems most of what they say about her is exaggerated to make it seem like she's more extreme than what is typical in politics. But she is in fact very typical. There really isn't anything she's done that hasn't been done by other politicians toward which these Hillary-h**ers have no issue. And yet they're so unglued about it. I've had a few discussions with women that have suggested it's... *because she's a woman.* At first I wasn't buying it but some of them pointed out that it's largely a subconscious thing, which I suppose being successful women in business (at least the women I've talked to) they've had more experience with confronting than I have. I have to admit that over the past few months I started to see that this really is the most likely explanation for the fury of these men (and the women that are more comfortable submitting to their men) who can't stand the thought of a strong woman like Hillary in the Oval Office.

So... this is why I had to laugh when I saw your post. It's my careful opinion that the reason most people are v****g for Trump is because Hillary is a woman. So different decision, same reason.

BTW - tootsie-rolls are gross.
LOL - well, I agree that simply v****g FOR her bec... (show quote)




I think you're right on target, as usual . It is Hillary's misfortune to have to go against not a formidable opponent but such a low class one these people are so offensive always in the pursuit to d**g people down to their level, I think she stood her ground pretty well. Now there is that old double standard to being a lady, but I would love to be a fly on the wall if those two got into it behind closed doors, we'd have to get a spatula.

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Oct 21, 2016 13:38:15   #
Big Bass
 
Morgan wrote:
I think you're right on target, as usual . It is Hillary's misfortune to have to go against not a formidable opponent but such a low class one these people are so offensive always in the pursuit to d**g people down to their level, I think she stood her ground pretty well. Now there is that old double standard to being a lady, but I would love to be a fly on the wall if those two got into it behind closed doors, we'd have to get a spatula.


Are you and straightup the same person? No-one else agrees with him.

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Oct 21, 2016 13:42:36   #
Morgan
 
Big Bass wrote:
Are you and straightup the same person? No-one else agrees with him.


No we just don't go around in packs. I'm sure others agree also, do you really only like to converse with people who agree with you?

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Oct 21, 2016 13:46:57   #
Big Bass
 
Morgan wrote:
No we just don't go around in packs. I'm sure others agree also, do you really only like to converse with people who agree with you?

Only if those who don't agree, can't string words together to make a coherent sentence.

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Oct 21, 2016 13:50:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Morgan wrote:
I think you're right on target, as usual . It is Hillary's misfortune to have to go against not a formidable opponent but such a low class one these people are so offensive always in the pursuit to d**g people down to their level, I think she stood her ground pretty well. Now there is that old double standard to being a lady, but I would love to be a fly on the wall if those two got into it behind closed doors, we'd have to get a spatula.


So you think Hillary is just a common example of DC politicians?
If So; it must be reversed!!!

Clinton Compilation, lying, Scandals, etc.:
Hillary Clinton: A Lying Compilation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTNyYTsk5gs
Then there is the Clinton Dead List.
She is one hum-dinger.

Hillary the Scandals
http://youtu.be/BYKAzJcU-DA

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Oct 21, 2016 14:01:22   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
The after debate rhetoric from the loony left was often comical for me.
One person on Yahoo News scripted that her ( Queen ) was dressed in
Power White Clothing . I kid you not . I was cackling so hard it upset my
dog.

It appears that every pimple faced recent Liberal Arts College Degree
who can find their way around a keyboard is an expert on all things.


eagleye13 wrote:
I watched the CNN analysis after the debate.
It was hard to endure, but I needed to watch the spin that was sure to come.
The Talking Heads harped on Trump's not pre promising to abide by the e******n results. It was "horrendous" according to a couple of them. "Unheard of"!!!. While ignoring the points Trump got across.
.
Now they will cut and paste the sound bites 24/7, to paint a picture for those that did not watch the debate. That is how it works.
That is how they get the unsuspecting sheeple to v**e for their candidates of choice.

These are journalists??????
I watched the CNN analysis after the debate. br It... (show quote)

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Oct 21, 2016 14:15:42   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
missinglink wrote:
The after debate rhetoric from the loony left was often comical for me.
One person on Yahoo News scripted that her ( Queen ) was dressed in
Power White Clothing . I kid you not . I was cackling so hard it upset my
dog.

It appears that every pimple faced recent Liberal Arts College Degree
who can find their way around a keyboard is an expert on all things.


No amount of education can replace a lifetime of experience. Those young whippersnappers think they're so smart. They don't know anything.

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Oct 21, 2016 14:23:33   #
Progressive One
 
you will witness a lot of that here.....when they came at me with the uneducated ghetto rap...I posted some academic material and all it was met with was name calling and monkey/offensive pictures. That did not subside until the academic material was over ran with insults and diversions. Funny you would say that because I eventually realize that was the tactic.......to distract from their lack of knowledge with a preoccupation with inflammatory rhetoric that was insulting and of no academic content. If I were post something about engineering or academia, they would have a feeding frenzy telling me what a fraud, liar, destitute uneducated spook/n-word I am.....while never addressing the issue of substance. I will demonstrate as much one day.

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Oct 21, 2016 14:23:37   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
JFlorio wrote:
You would be wrong according to me, a conservative and my conservative politically active friends. I'm v****g for Trump and so are they because we feel Hillary is unfit to be president period. She has committed criminal acts according to the statute that defines and governs classified material.

As far as I know, that has not actually been proven. If it has and I'm just missing it, I would really appreciate it if you could point specifically to the law she supposedly broke and the evidence that she did. And please don't just throw a link from a conspiracy site. There's a difference between actual laws and actual evidence and actual findings and the blabbering on Hillary-h**e sites.

JFlorio wrote:

She has been a liar (as e-mails show) and pretty much unethical her entire life.

See, this is what I mean... I can detect the emotion in your statement by the use of exaggerated words like "her *entire* life. You don't know about her *entire* life. You only know about her public life. As for her e-mails, how exactly do they prove she's a liar?

JFlorio wrote:

We don't like Trump. We believe he is unqualified by the ridiculous statements he has made. We believe Hillary is unqualified by the deeds she has committed.

What about the deeds Trump has committed? Just because he wasn't in government doesn't mean he wasn't lying and c***ting as the numerous lawsuits against him have suggested. Many of these lawsuits were settled out of court, which someone as brazen as Trump wouldn't do if he wasn't guilty. Something else that Trump supporters do is dismiss his "marginal" deeds.., where he didn't actually break any laws, such as his repeated use of eminent domain to force people to sell their property to him. At the same time they are sure to count Hillary's "marginal" deeds as definite crimes.

The difference between their deeds is that Clinton's actions as an agent of the federal government has a much wider scope with international implications than Trumps actions which rarely affected anyone outside of his much smaller business circles, but that would change if he were ever to become president.

JFlorio wrote:

We know Hillary will ruin the Supreme Court if you are a Constitutionalist.

I have found that many people who claim to be "Constitutionalists" don't even understand the U.S.Constitution. But you're welcome to explain to me how she will ruin the Supreme Court with respect to that legal document.

JFlorio wrote:

Like most liberals you always use the r****t, anti-feminist or bigot card when you cannot comprehend why someone doesn't see things your way.

I can't speak for "most liberals" but when I use the "bigot" card, it's either in response to a very clear demonstration of bigotry (which does actually happen) or I make it clear that I am "suggesting" bigotry as a likely reason while offering a very clear explanation as to why I make the suggestion. This is what I did in the post you are responding to. In this case, you're basically correct... Only it's more that I can't comprehend why people *do* see things *their* way. So I ask for explanations and I find myself having these discussions with people who are clearly upset but can't seem to provide any reasons that I haven't already found to be false or exaggerated. It would be different if they were acting confused, but they are very adamant and very resolute. And when I explain how their reasons don't hold up they get very upset with me that I don't just accept their stated reasons.

Now bigotry in all it's forms, whether r****t, or sexist, or wh**ever is one of those human traits that we all have to some degree. Myself included. So we are all familiar with it and we all know it's one of those things we never like to admit to. And it's the things we don't want to admit to that when they get out of control often does create emotional outrage that we can't really explain. I think sometimes it happens without the offender even realizing it until perhaps its too late, if ever. Wh**ever the case, it becomes even more imperative at that point that they find something to blame it on.

So this is the reason why I make the suggestion. In light of the emotional outrage that can't be explained logically, bigotry becomes a very likely cause. I'm not saying this is always the case and I will also suggest that simple misguidance could also be a large part of it. People sometimes just believe what they are told. I only point out the sexist issue because historically, sex *IS* the most significant differential between Hillary and all her predecessors.

JFlorio wrote:

You're a smart guy. Why do liberals always point at the opponent and say will they did it too.

You mean like Trump did during the last debate when he defended his less-than-noble tax practices by saying George Soros did it too? (Sorry, had to point that one out) Again, I can't speak for liberals in general, we aren't the lock-step machine some of you think we are. But the reason why I pointed out that other politicians have done the same things Clinton has done is to highlight the difference in the way people react to her compared to others, such as Colin Powell who had his own personal e-mail server when he was Secretary of State. It was critical to explaining the logic behind my suggestion.

JFlorio wrote:

Growing up that excuse always got me an ass whipping.

Me too. I would always get the rhetorical question from my mom... "If Bobby jumped off a cliff would you do it too?" But, as I hope you can see, in this case I'm not making an excuse for myself. Pointing out the similarities between Clinton and her predecessors, as I've explained, is part of a logical process for understanding the disproportionate agitation of others.

JFlorio wrote:

I would v**e for Condoleezza Rice in a heartbeat. What kind of phoebe does that make me?

Don't take offense, 'cause I don't really know you, but I don't know if you really would. It's easy to say that when you know it would never actually happen. As for me, remembering her role in what I feel was the most abominable administration at least since Wilson. She would have to be running against someone like Trump to get my v**e.

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