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Did Noah's Flood Cover the Himalayan Mountains?
Oct 9, 2016 14:54:43   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
by John D. Morris, Ph.D.
Resources › Earth Sciences Resources › Noah's Ark and Flood

Few doctrines in Scripture are as clearly taught as the global nature of the Great Flood in Noah's day. Genesis clearly teaches that "the waters . . . increased greatly . . . and the mountains were covered" (Genesis 7:18-20).

Through the centuries, few Christians questioned this doctrine. The Bible said it, and that was enough—until the late 1700s that is. For the first time the globe was being explored—the extremely lofty Himalayan Mountains were surveyed, capped by Mt. Everest at 29,035 feet in elevation. Did the waters cover them? Is there enough water on the planet to do so? The questions seemed so far-fetched that many European churchmen dismissed the idea that the Flood was global, adopting the local flood concept which still dominates Christian colleges and seminaries today. Like dominos, other doctrines soon began to fall—the young age for the earth, the special creation of plants and animals, and the inerrancy of Scripture.

We now know, of course, that the earth has plenty of water to launch a global flood. It has been calculated that if the earth's surface were completely flat, with no high mountains and no deep ocean basins, that water would cover the earth to a depth of about 8,000 feet. But is there enough water to cover a 29,035 foot mountain?

The key is to remember that the Flood didn't have to cover the present Earth, but it did have to cover the pre-Flood Earth, and the Bible teaches that the Flood fully restructured the earth. "The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6). It is gone forever. The earth of today was radically altered by that global event.

That Flood accomplished abundant geologic work. Eroding sediments here, redepositing them there, pushing up continents, elevating plateaus, denuding terrains, etc., so that the earth today is quite different from before. Today even mountain ranges rise high above the sea.

Mt. Everest and the Himalayan range, along with the Alps, the Rockies, the Appalachians, the Andes, and most of the world's other mountains are composed of ocean-bottom sediments, full of marine fossils laid down by the Flood. Mt. Everest itself has clam fossils at its summit. These rock layers cover an extensive area, including much of Asia. They give every indication of resulting from cataclysmic water processes. These are the kinds of deposits we would expect to result from the worldwide, world-destroying Flood of Noah's day.

At the end of the Flood, after thick sequences of sediments had accumulated, the Indian subcontinent evidently collided with Asia, crumpling the sediments into mountains. Today they stand as giants—folded and fractured layers of ocean-bottom sediments at high elevations. No, Noah's Flood didn't cover the Himalayas, it formed them!

Thus we find the Biblical account not only possible, but also supported by the evidence. A pre-Flood world with lessened topographic extremes could have been covered by the Great Flood. That Flood caused today's high mountains and deep oceans making such a flood impossible to repeat. This is just as God promised, back in Genesis.

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Oct 9, 2016 15:05:52   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
by John D. Morris, Ph.D.
Resources › Earth Sciences Resources › Noah's Ark and Flood

Few doctrines in Scripture are as clearly taught as the global nature of the Great Flood in Noah's day. Genesis clearly teaches that "the waters . . . increased greatly . . . and the mountains were covered" (Genesis 7:18-20).

Through the centuries, few Christians questioned this doctrine. The Bible said it, and that was enough—until the late 1700s that is. For the first time the globe was being explored—the extremely lofty Himalayan Mountains were surveyed, capped by Mt. Everest at 29,035 feet in elevation. Did the waters cover them? Is there enough water on the planet to do so? The questions seemed so far-fetched that many European churchmen dismissed the idea that the Flood was global, adopting the local flood concept which still dominates Christian colleges and seminaries today. Like dominos, other doctrines soon began to fall—the young age for the earth, the special creation of plants and animals, and the inerrancy of Scripture.

We now know, of course, that the earth has plenty of water to launch a global flood. It has been calculated that if the earth's surface were completely flat, with no high mountains and no deep ocean basins, that water would cover the earth to a depth of about 8,000 feet. But is there enough water to cover a 29,035 foot mountain?

The key is to remember that the Flood didn't have to cover the present Earth, but it did have to cover the pre-Flood Earth, and the Bible teaches that the Flood fully restructured the earth. "The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6). It is gone forever. The earth of today was radically altered by that global event.

That Flood accomplished abundant geologic work. Eroding sediments here, redepositing them there, pushing up continents, elevating plateaus, denuding terrains, etc., so that the earth today is quite different from before. Today even mountain ranges rise high above the sea.

Mt. Everest and the Himalayan range, along with the Alps, the Rockies, the Appalachians, the Andes, and most of the world's other mountains are composed of ocean-bottom sediments, full of marine fossils laid down by the Flood. Mt. Everest itself has clam fossils at its summit. These rock layers cover an extensive area, including much of Asia. They give every indication of resulting from cataclysmic water processes. These are the kinds of deposits we would expect to result from the worldwide, world-destroying Flood of Noah's day.

At the end of the Flood, after thick sequences of sediments had accumulated, the Indian subcontinent evidently collided with Asia, crumpling the sediments into mountains. Today they stand as giants—folded and fractured layers of ocean-bottom sediments at high elevations. No, Noah's Flood didn't cover the Himalayas, it formed them!

Thus we find the Biblical account not only possible, but also supported by the evidence. A pre-Flood world with lessened topographic extremes could have been covered by the Great Flood. That Flood caused today's high mountains and deep oceans making such a flood impossible to repeat. This is just as God promised, back in Genesis.
by John D. Morris, Ph.D. br Resources › Earth Scie... (show quote)


There were two great floods, the first and biggest originated in the Indian Ocean, the second in the Mediterranean.

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Oct 9, 2016 15:08:58   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
bilordinary wrote:
There were two great floods, the first and biggest originated in the Indian Ocean, the second in the Mediterranean.


And yet neither one was capable of causing the geological changes that occurred during the global flood. Did you even read the article?

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Oct 9, 2016 15:13:46   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
And yet neither one was capable of causing the geological changes that occurred during the global flood. Did you even read the article?


Yes I did read the article, did you think I was disputing it?

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Oct 9, 2016 15:19:14   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
bilordinary wrote:
Yes I did read the article, did you think I was disputing it?


Forgive me. I'm way short on sleep, and I'm not tracking too well. It seemed that you were denying the global flood.

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Oct 9, 2016 16:11:34   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
by John D. Morris, Ph.D.
Resources › Earth Sciences Resources › Noah's Ark and Flood

Few doctrines in Scripture are as clearly taught as the global nature of the Great Flood in Noah's day. Genesis clearly teaches that "the waters . . . increased greatly . . . and the mountains were covered" (Genesis 7:18-20).

Through the centuries, few Christians questioned this doctrine. The Bible said it, and that was enough—until the late 1700s that is. For the first time the globe was being explored—the extremely lofty Himalayan Mountains were surveyed, capped by Mt. Everest at 29,035 feet in elevation. Did the waters cover them? Is there enough water on the planet to do so? The questions seemed so far-fetched that many European churchmen dismissed the idea that the Flood was global, adopting the local flood concept which still dominates Christian colleges and seminaries today. Like dominos, other doctrines soon began to fall—the young age for the earth, the special creation of plants and animals, and the inerrancy of Scripture.

We now know, of course, that the earth has plenty of water to launch a global flood. It has been calculated that if the earth's surface were completely flat, with no high mountains and no deep ocean basins, that water would cover the earth to a depth of about 8,000 feet. But is there enough water to cover a 29,035 foot mountain?

The key is to remember that the Flood didn't have to cover the present Earth, but it did have to cover the pre-Flood Earth, and the Bible teaches that the Flood fully restructured the earth. "The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6). It is gone forever. The earth of today was radically altered by that global event.

That Flood accomplished abundant geologic work. Eroding sediments here, redepositing them there, pushing up continents, elevating plateaus, denuding terrains, etc., so that the earth today is quite different from before. Today even mountain ranges rise high above the sea.

Mt. Everest and the Himalayan range, along with the Alps, the Rockies, the Appalachians, the Andes, and most of the world's other mountains are composed of ocean-bottom sediments, full of marine fossils laid down by the Flood. Mt. Everest itself has clam fossils at its summit. These rock layers cover an extensive area, including much of Asia. They give every indication of resulting from cataclysmic water processes. These are the kinds of deposits we would expect to result from the worldwide, world-destroying Flood of Noah's day.

At the end of the Flood, after thick sequences of sediments had accumulated, the Indian subcontinent evidently collided with Asia, crumpling the sediments into mountains. Today they stand as giants—folded and fractured layers of ocean-bottom sediments at high elevations. No, Noah's Flood didn't cover the Himalayas, it formed them!

Thus we find the Biblical account not only possible, but also supported by the evidence. A pre-Flood world with lessened topographic extremes could have been covered by the Great Flood. That Flood caused today's high mountains and deep oceans making such a flood impossible to repeat. This is just as God promised, back in Genesis.
by John D. Morris, Ph.D. br Resources › Earth Scie... (show quote)


I've had discussions with people who claim the flood couldn't have happened, because fossil evidence suggests a time much earlier in human history, such as marine fossils on mountains. I answer their claim with a question, " how much does a mile of water weigh?", followed by the question " how does all that weight affect carbon decay?". Usually, they have no answer, but geophysicists do, who will explain that a flood of that magnitude accelerates carbon decay, making the fossil record appear older.

Oil and coal are carbon materials which have been subjected to heat and intense pressure. A mile or more of water creates extreme pressures across the entire earth and all that weight generates heat as well. In addition, any human remains will be subjected to the same pressure and other conditions, modifying them in the process. Where are the remains of all the people who died in the flood? In museums and university labs, for the most part, misidentified as Neolithic humans.

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Oct 9, 2016 16:17:03   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I've had discussions with people who claim the flood couldn't have happened, because fossil evidence suggests a time much earlier in human history, such as marine fossils on mountains. I answer their claim with a question, " how much does a mile of water weigh?", followed by the question " how does all that weight affect carbon decay?". Usually, they have no answer, but geophysicists do, who will explain that a flood of that magnitude accelerates carbon decay, making the fossil record appear older.

Oil and coal are carbon materials which have been subjected to heat and intense pressure. A mile or more of water creates extreme pressures across the entire earth and all that weight generates heat as well. In addition, any human remains will be subjected to the same pressure and other conditions, modifying them in the process. Where are the remains of all the people who died in the flood? In museums and university labs, for the most part, misidentified as Neolithic humans.
I've had discussions with people who claim the flo... (show quote)


There is also a sedimentary layer of rock that spans the entire globe. Not one continuous layer, but some single layers cover multiple continents. These layers were laid down during a single cataclysmic event. Science has no answer for how this happened. But the Bible does.

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