PhilosophyMan Loc: Washington state.

what are your views on death? here are mine, this is a quote from W.N.P. Barbellion, this quote is how I feel about death, and how we wont know till the end.

"I ask myself: what are my views on death, the next world, God? I look into my mind and discover I am too much of a mannikin to have any. As for death, I am a little bit of trembling jelly of anticipation. I am prepared for anything, but I am the complete agnostic; I simply don't know. To have views, faith, beliefs, one needs a backbone. This great bully of a universe overwhelms me. The stars make me cower. I am intimidated by the immensity surrounding my own littleness. It is futile and presumptuous for me to opine anything about the next world. But I hope for something much freer and more satisfying after death, for emancipation of the spirit and above all for the obliteration of this puny self, this little, skulking, sharp-witted ferret."

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

Personally, I am not afraid of death. Ever had an out of body experience? I did: I saw myself laying down, eyes closed. Something about me could see, for which I saw a solid, very dense blackness all in front of me. I caught sight of a tiny sparkle that grew bigger and bigger until it was a large ball of fire. The large ball of fire began to turn anticlockwise, and as it turned- it threw a very many small sparkles into the blackness until it was filled with them. Then, the middle of the Ball of Fire began to open until it was just a round rim of fire, yet, I couldn't go in. Instead, I sensed a "burst" all around, and a thin, petite, bright ring shot out of the rim straight at me. It came fast as first, then slowed down until it landed right between my eyes with the fine tickle sensation of touching your eyelashes. Then, a few days later I awoke.
What I saw was the beginning of Time per God, as for our universe. I was given my life back as a gift, a blessing.
There is spiritual life after death. The energy that surges through our bodies that keeps us alive, is our spirit. It is a different type of energy that Science cannot copy, and will never. It is of God. Like all energy, when the spirit leaves our body, it simply "converts". It converts back to Godly energy that dwells in Spiritual Heaven, or it converts to the sources of energy that keep our world alive as in magnetism and such. In that case, your "spiritual image" dies forever being converted to something else. As we know Energy never dies.
So what we need to do now, it focus on our lives here and try daily to do better, be better, and try our best to do the right things. The Lord Jesus Christ is a sure shot arrow towards heaven, but that is a free choice.

Ghost Loc: The 1st state to ever secede

Death is a way we cross over into the spirit world. As someone stated before we have spritual energy that is everlasting, undying and renewed into new spiritual images because even spirits have to live and grow.

This is why God wants a relationship with humankind because our spirits are individually unique since they're always developing, learning and growing. We have all existed before time was time.

Death is a learning experience for spiritual beings. What we do with our lives here is reflected in the hereafter. What Christians consider sin of the flesh is what I see as the corruption of being in a material world where things die and wither away over time. Do we allow this corruption dictate our paths in life or do we trust a more spiritual guidance? This is why Jesus is the perfect instructor for each of our "spiritual portfolios" because we are all a work in progress.

How I interpret what Jesus teaches us can be seen as heretical to the highest degree by hardliner Christians but in the reprint of the Geneva Bible (I do not read the KJV) is an enigma and on purpose. You can take 100 people to read the same bible and get 100 different interpretations.

jchuckjohns Loc: Madison, Wisconsin

I don't follow or espouse any religious doctrine. I don't know what happens when we die. I am comfortable in assuming that it is the end of consciousness. Since I believe this, I feel it is our duty to be decent people while we are here.

claytonln Loc: Kansas

I have never had an out of body experience. However, I believe we are here to learn a lesson. Our personalities are fragmented, parts of God. The lessons we learn in our life will take us back to God, if all our lessons are learned. In the bible it says,(I am not sure where) all things are contained in God.

That energy you speak of is of God. It is the God part of each of us. The good and evil that is in each of us, is why we are here. We have to learn to live with ourselves and each other.

Anyway that's what I think. :lol:

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

Awesome thinking!

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

I'm sorry that you feel that way. No matter though, God, his Holy Word (the Bible), remains and is the T***h. It is the T***h of all things but needing to be read in a different mindset than what your used to.
Heaven is real no matter who believes or not. And, from Jesus own mouth, he says to you:
"10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth." Luke 15:10.
A portion of the Great Eternal Heaven that is named for you, remains quiet.

jetson

We are almost like the machines, that we have made. There is very few differences. The main one is brains or intelligence. A machine can do many things. It can do the things it was created for. But, has to have an operator to control it. Animals, operate the same as we do. They have intelligence, but not to degree the human has. The machine has an outer shell, usually metal, plastic etc. We have skin. The machine has working parts that work on a synchronized way when assembled correctly. The human body has the same. We can reason and think, the machine can't operate on its own, unless it has a man made computer controlling it. But that is, just another machine operating it. It cannot change the operation, of the machine in any way except, what man has fed into it. The machine breaks down, needing repairs. Humans have the same problems. The machine eventually rusts away or wear away. Humans do the same. We can fix parts and change parts in both, but sooner or later, they rust away or wear away. Explained here, is how they are so much a like.... Need fuel, Human=food, machine=gas,battery etc, need something to pump fuel, humans=heart, machine=fuel pumps, need pipes to take energy from process fuel, human=veins arteries, lungs etc. machine=pipes, hoses, discharge waste from burned fuel, human=urine tract, lungs, digestive tracts machine=exhaust system, ventilation. Now the big difference. The human can have a complete regeneration, in the future, if he decides to accept Christ. He can come back to earth and live an eternal life one day. The atheist is like the machine. He has no hope. Only a life of torture, in the lake of fire waiting, on the other side. The unbeliever the same.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

That is quite a comparison! Need to remember though nonbelievers are able to Love, feel joy and happiness, feel sadness, anger, depressed frustrated, and all the in between stuff just like everyone else. Rejection and persecution for what they choose not to believe as well. Jesus Christ is an "Inviting Experience," with patience and understanding. Doom and death being thrown at them only helps to create more hatred of what they already don't understand, or chose not to understand.

Remember this in your zeal for the Lord:

24 And the Lord`s servant must not strive, but be gentle towards all, apt to teach, forbearing,
25 in meekness correcting them that oppose themselves; if peradventure God may give them repentance unto the knowledge of the t***h,
26 and they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him unto his will. (meaning: being taken under the influence of a perverted mindset towards the Lord)
II Timothy 2:24-26

rumitoid

I have had two NDEs, one at seven and the other at eighteen. Though for a long time I took these as personal proof of life after death, it no longer matters. These experiences no longer matter not that Science has discovered areas of the brain that when stimulated appear to mimic an NDE and thus may call into question their nature, no, for these simulations always fail to produce the profound psychic changes many have after having died and been revived. They no longer matter because I no longer need proof, or even reassurance, for that matter.

No one gets out of here alive. Death is inevitable for all and can come at any time. Birth is the beginning of the steady march to death. We are already covered in something of a shroud, our skin cells on the surface dead.

Accepting death for me has nothing whatsoever with any beliefs, nor with it being just a natural consequence of breath for a sustained period of time. For me, the Gospels make this clear: the moment is what we were made for. Dying to self produces the greatest freedom and deepest joy possible. Dying to self is for every living soul's ultimate well-being. Without being on this path and starting to notice that freedom and joy that is naturally part of the journey, nothing and everything else will do without any benefit.

claytonln Loc: Kansas

I would agree the body dies, no the soul.

rumitoid

Me too.

claytonln Loc: Kansas

sorry meant not the soul.

rumitoid

I know what you meant and, again, I agree.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of God.

I feel a strong presence of some thing flowing through life.

Some thing bigger than life. The strong will to survive that is present.

In any event I say we are here to make the world a better place for all.