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Oct 4, 2016 11:40:21   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
From Sandy M. - Oct 4, 2016

COST OF SENATE BARBERSHOP SHOWS AMERICA IS OVER

This is really a great letter. I am most impressed by the fact the gentleman that wrote it signed his name and address to it.

This came from a Democrat! I read it and it certainly hits the nail where it would hurt. Google has the letter posted on their web site. This is well written.......and should be read by everyone in these United States! It will be well worth the three minutes it requires to read this. It is quite impressive.

You can be Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, Independent or Libertarian and I'll bet this will hit a nerve. Our country is in real trouble.

Senator Patty Murray
Senator Maria Cantwell
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senators:
I have tried to live by the rules my entire life. My father was a Command Sergeant Major, U.S. Army, who died of combat related stresses shortly after his retirement. It was he who instilled in me those virtues he felt important - honesty, duty, patriotism and obeying the laws of God and of our various governments. I have served my country, paid my taxes, worked hard, volunteered and donated my fair share of money, time and artifacts.

Today, as I approach my 79th birthday, I am heart-broken when I look at my country and my government. I shall only point out a very few things abysmally wrong which you can multiply by a thousand fold. I have calculated that all the money I have paid in income taxes my entire life cannot even keep the Senate barbershop open for one year! Only Heaven and a few tight-lipped actuarial types know what the Senate dining room costs the taxpayers. So please, enjoy your haircuts and meals on us.

Last year, the president spent an estimated $1.4 billion on himself and his family. The vice president spends $ millions on hotels. They have had 8 vacations so far this year! And our House of Representatives and Senate have become America's answer to the Saudi royal family. You have become the "perfumed princes and princesses" of our country.

In the middle of the night, you v**ed in the Affordable Health Care Act, a.k.a. "Obamacare," a bill which no more than a handful of senators or representatives read more than several paragraphs, crammed it down our throats, and then promptly exempted yourselves from it substituting your own taxpayer-subsidized golden health care insurance. (Let's eliminate that exemption and put the Congress under the Affordable Health Care Act)

You live exceedingly well, eat and drink as well as the "one percenters," consistently v**e yourselves perks and pay raises while making 3.5 times the average U.S. individual income, and give up nothing while you (as well as the president and veep) ask us to sacrifice due to sequestration (for which, of course, you plan to blame the Republicans, anyway).

You understand very well the only two rules you need to know - (1) How to get elected, and (2) How to get re-elected. And you do this with the aid of an eagerly willing and partisan press, speeches permeated with a certain economy of t***h, and by buying the v**es of the greedy, the ill-informed and under-educated citizens (and non-citizens, too, many of whom do v**e ) who are looking for a handout rather than a job. Your so-called "safety net" has become a hammock for the lazy. And, what is it now, about 49 or 50 million on food stamps - pretty much all Democrat v**ers - and the program is absolutely rife with fraud and absolutely no congressional oversight?

I would offer that you are not entirely to blame. What changed you is the seductive environment of power in which you have immersed yourselves. It is the nature of both houses of Congress which requires you to subordinate your virtue in order to get anything done until you have achieved a leadership role. To paraphrase President Reagan, it appears that the second oldest profession (politics), bears a remarkably strong resemblance to the oldest.

As the hirsute first Baron John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton (1834 -1902), English historian and moralist, so aptly and accurately stated, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." I'm only guessing that this applies to the female sex as well. Tell me, is there a more corrupt entity in this country than Congress?

While we middle class people continue to struggle, our government becomes less and less t***sparent, more and more bureaucratic, and ever so much more dictatorial, using Czars and Secretaries to tell us (just to mention a very few) what kind of light bulbs we must purchase, how much soda or hamburgers we can eat, what cars we can drive, gasoline to use, and what health care we must buy. Countless thousands of pages of regulations strangle our businesses costing the consumer more and more every day.

As I face my final year, or so, with cancer, my president and my government tell me "You'll just have to take a pill," while you, Senator, your colleagues, the president, and other exulted government officials and their families will get the best possible health care on our tax dollars until you are called home by your Creator while also enjoying a retirement beyond my wildest dreams, which of course, you v**ed for yourselves and we pay for.

The chances of you reading this letter are practically zero as your staff will not pass it on, but with a little luck, a form letter response might be generated by them with an auto signature applied, hoping we will believe that you, our senator or representative, has heard us and actually cares. This letter will, however, go on line where many others will have the chance to read one person's opinion, rightly or wrongly, about this government, its administration and its senators and representatives.

I only hope that occasionally you might quietly thank the taxpayer for all the generous entitlements which you have v**ed yourselves, for which, by law, we must pay, unless, of course, it just goes on the $19 trillion national debt for which your children and ours, and your grandchildren and ours, ad infinitum, must eventually try to pick up the tab.

My final thoughts are that it must take a person who has either lost his or her soul, or conscience, or both, to seek re-e******n and continue to destroy the country that I deeply love. You have put it so far in debt that we will never pay it off while your lot improves by the minute, because of your power.

For you, Senator, will never stand up to the rascals in your House who constantly deceive the American people. And that, my dear Senator, is how power has corrupted you and the entire Congress. The only answer to clean up this cesspool is term limits and replacing their retirement with the same Social Security plan the rest of us will receive (if they don't put that program into bankruptcy) . This, of course, will k**l the goose that lays your golden eggs. And woe be to him (or her) who would dare to bring it up.

Sincerely,
Bill Schoonover
3096 Angela Lane
Oak Harbor, WA

Maybe....just maybe this is the reason the political establishment is against Trump. He may just k**l the goose......

IF WE SEND THIS TO ENOUGH PEOPLE MAYBE WE CAN START A MOVEMENT TO CORRECT THIS FIASCO!

Reply
Oct 4, 2016 12:03:20   #
JimMe
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
From Sandy M. - Oct 4, 2016

COST OF SENATE BARBERSHOP SHOWS AMERICA IS OVER

This is really a great letter. I am most impressed by the fact the gentleman that wrote it signed his name and address to it.

This came from a Democrat! I read it and it certainly hits the nail where it would hurt. Google has the letter posted on their web site. This is well written.......and should be read by everyone in these United States! It will be well worth the three minutes it requires to read this. It is quite impressive.

You can be Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, Independent or Libertarian and I'll bet this will hit a nerve. Our country is in real trouble.

Senator Patty Murray
Senator Maria Cantwell
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senators:
I have tried to live by the rules my entire life. My father was a Command Sergeant Major, U.S. Army, who died of combat related stresses shortly after his retirement. It was he who instilled in me those virtues he felt important - honesty, duty, patriotism and obeying the laws of God and of our various governments. I have served my country, paid my taxes, worked hard, volunteered and donated my fair share of money, time and artifacts.

Today, as I approach my 79th birthday, I am heart-broken when I look at my country and my government. I shall only point out a very few things abysmally wrong which you can multiply by a thousand fold. I have calculated that all the money I have paid in income taxes my entire life cannot even keep the Senate barbershop open for one year! Only Heaven and a few tight-lipped actuarial types know what the Senate dining room costs the taxpayers. So please, enjoy your haircuts and meals on us.

Last year, the president spent an estimated $1.4 billion on himself and his family. The vice president spends $ millions on hotels. They have had 8 vacations so far this year! And our House of Representatives and Senate have become America's answer to the Saudi royal family. You have become the "perfumed princes and princesses" of our country.

In the middle of the night, you v**ed in the Affordable Health Care Act, a.k.a. "Obamacare," a bill which no more than a handful of senators or representatives read more than several paragraphs, crammed it down our throats, and then promptly exempted yourselves from it substituting your own taxpayer-subsidized golden health care insurance. (Let's eliminate that exemption and put the Congress under the Affordable Health Care Act)

You live exceedingly well, eat and drink as well as the "one percenters," consistently v**e yourselves perks and pay raises while making 3.5 times the average U.S. individual income, and give up nothing while you (as well as the president and veep) ask us to sacrifice due to sequestration (for which, of course, you plan to blame the Republicans, anyway).

You understand very well the only two rules you need to know - (1) How to get elected, and (2) How to get re-elected. And you do this with the aid of an eagerly willing and partisan press, speeches permeated with a certain economy of t***h, and by buying the v**es of the greedy, the ill-informed and under-educated citizens (and non-citizens, too, many of whom do v**e ) who are looking for a handout rather than a job. Your so-called "safety net" has become a hammock for the lazy. And, what is it now, about 49 or 50 million on food stamps - pretty much all Democrat v**ers - and the program is absolutely rife with fraud and absolutely no congressional oversight?

I would offer that you are not entirely to blame. What changed you is the seductive environment of power in which you have immersed yourselves. It is the nature of both houses of Congress which requires you to subordinate your virtue in order to get anything done until you have achieved a leadership role. To paraphrase President Reagan, it appears that the second oldest profession (politics), bears a remarkably strong resemblance to the oldest.

As the hirsute first Baron John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton (1834 -1902), English historian and moralist, so aptly and accurately stated, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." I'm only guessing that this applies to the female sex as well. Tell me, is there a more corrupt entity in this country than Congress?

While we middle class people continue to struggle, our government becomes less and less t***sparent, more and more bureaucratic, and ever so much more dictatorial, using Czars and Secretaries to tell us (just to mention a very few) what kind of light bulbs we must purchase, how much soda or hamburgers we can eat, what cars we can drive, gasoline to use, and what health care we must buy. Countless thousands of pages of regulations strangle our businesses costing the consumer more and more every day.

As I face my final year, or so, with cancer, my president and my government tell me "You'll just have to take a pill," while you, Senator, your colleagues, the president, and other exulted government officials and their families will get the best possible health care on our tax dollars until you are called home by your Creator while also enjoying a retirement beyond my wildest dreams, which of course, you v**ed for yourselves and we pay for.

The chances of you reading this letter are practically zero as your staff will not pass it on, but with a little luck, a form letter response might be generated by them with an auto signature applied, hoping we will believe that you, our senator or representative, has heard us and actually cares. This letter will, however, go on line where many others will have the chance to read one person's opinion, rightly or wrongly, about this government, its administration and its senators and representatives.

I only hope that occasionally you might quietly thank the taxpayer for all the generous entitlements which you have v**ed yourselves, for which, by law, we must pay, unless, of course, it just goes on the $19 trillion national debt for which your children and ours, and your grandchildren and ours, ad infinitum, must eventually try to pick up the tab.

My final thoughts are that it must take a person who has either lost his or her soul, or conscience, or both, to seek re-e******n and continue to destroy the country that I deeply love. You have put it so far in debt that we will never pay it off while your lot improves by the minute, because of your power.

For you, Senator, will never stand up to the rascals in your House who constantly deceive the American people. And that, my dear Senator, is how power has corrupted you and the entire Congress. The only answer to clean up this cesspool is term limits and replacing their retirement with the same Social Security plan the rest of us will receive (if they don't put that program into bankruptcy) . This, of course, will k**l the goose that lays your golden eggs. And woe be to him (or her) who would dare to bring it up.

Sincerely,
Bill Schoonover
3096 Angela Lane
Oak Harbor, WA

Maybe....just maybe this is the reason the political establishment is against Trump. He may just k**l the goose......

IF WE SEND THIS TO ENOUGH PEOPLE MAYBE WE CAN START A MOVEMENT TO CORRECT THIS FIASCO!
From Sandy M. - Oct 4, 2016 br br COST OF SENATE ... (show quote)



Mr Schoonover was spot-on accurate... And there is a Constitutional way for "We the People" to get term-limits and stop the Congress from gorging "on our dime"... Article 5 of the Constitution where the States can call for a "State Convention" to propose, v**e, and pass Amendments bypassing Congress... It's time "We the People" took back our Government...

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Oct 4, 2016 12:12:07   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
I signed a petition way back when, what happened to the movement??? Don D.


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JimMe wrote:
Mr Schoonover was spot-on accurate... And there is a Constitutional way for "We the People" to get term-limits and stop the Congress from gorging "on our dime"... Article 5 of the Constitution where the States can call for a "State Convention" to propose, v**e, and pass Amendments bypassing Congress... It's time "We the People" took back our Government...

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Oct 4, 2016 12:51:40   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
I signed a petition way back when, what happened to the movement??? Don D.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


An update on the convention:


They held simulated conventions in pr********ns for the real thing. The first ever, historic Convention of States Simulation is now complete. One-hundred and thirty-seven delegates representing every state in the nation convened in Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia, Sept. 21-23.

The full Convention will be issuing a statement on Monday morning, which will include the proposed Amendments which were successfully v**ed out.

Here's a quick preview. The Convention passed amendment proposals on the following six ideas:
· Requiring the states to approve any increase in the national debt
· Term limits on Congress
· Limiting federal overreach by returning the Commerce Clause to its original meaning
· Limiting the power of federal regulations by giving an easy congressional override
· Require a super majority for federal taxes and repeal the 16th Amendment
· Give the states (by a 3/5ths v**e) the power to abrogate any federal law, regulation or executive order.

"The events at Williamsburg will be remembered as a turning point in history. The spirit of liberty and self government has been reignited." Michael Farris - Co-Founder, Convention of States Project.
Here's what happened.

Amendment proposal:
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/6429/attachments/original/1474898033/Final_Convention_Report.pdf?1474898033&utm_source=AE_List&utm_campaign=a880ec471b-9_27_16_COS_Program_Email_AE&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_5784f1cbb9-a880ec471b-219135745


Final Convention Report
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/6429/attachments/original/1474898033/Final_Convention_Report.pdf?1474898033&utm_source=Convention+of+States+Project&utm_campaign=698b2a848f-9_27_16_COS_Program_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_45196125c1-698b2a848f-219285881

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Oct 4, 2016 14:49:28   #
Kevyn
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
From Sandy M. - Oct 4, 2016

COST OF SENATE BARBERSHOP SHOWS AMERICA IS OVER

This is really a great letter. I am most impressed by the fact the gentleman that wrote it signed his name and address to it.

This came from a Democrat! I read it and it certainly hits the nail where it would hurt. Google has the letter posted on their web site. This is well written.......and should be read by everyone in these United States! It will be well worth the three minutes it requires to read this. It is quite impressive.

You can be Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, Independent or Libertarian and I'll bet this will hit a nerve. Our country is in real trouble.

Senator Patty Murray
Senator Maria Cantwell
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senators:
I have tried to live by the rules my entire life. My father was a Command Sergeant Major, U.S. Army, who died of combat related stresses shortly after his retirement. It was he who instilled in me those virtues he felt important - honesty, duty, patriotism and obeying the laws of God and of our various governments. I have served my country, paid my taxes, worked hard, volunteered and donated my fair share of money, time and artifacts.

Today, as I approach my 79th birthday, I am heart-broken when I look at my country and my government. I shall only point out a very few things abysmally wrong which you can multiply by a thousand fold. I have calculated that all the money I have paid in income taxes my entire life cannot even keep the Senate barbershop open for one year! Only Heaven and a few tight-lipped actuarial types know what the Senate dining room costs the taxpayers. So please, enjoy your haircuts and meals on us.

Last year, the president spent an estimated $1.4 billion on himself and his family. The vice president spends $ millions on hotels. They have had 8 vacations so far this year! And our House of Representatives and Senate have become America's answer to the Saudi royal family. You have become the "perfumed princes and princesses" of our country.

In the middle of the night, you v**ed in the Affordable Health Care Act, a.k.a. "Obamacare," a bill which no more than a handful of senators or representatives read more than several paragraphs, crammed it down our throats, and then promptly exempted yourselves from it substituting your own taxpayer-subsidized golden health care insurance. (Let's eliminate that exemption and put the Congress under the Affordable Health Care Act)

You live exceedingly well, eat and drink as well as the "one percenters," consistently v**e yourselves perks and pay raises while making 3.5 times the average U.S. individual income, and give up nothing while you (as well as the president and veep) ask us to sacrifice due to sequestration (for which, of course, you plan to blame the Republicans, anyway).

You understand very well the only two rules you need to know - (1) How to get elected, and (2) How to get re-elected. And you do this with the aid of an eagerly willing and partisan press, speeches permeated with a certain economy of t***h, and by buying the v**es of the greedy, the ill-informed and under-educated citizens (and non-citizens, too, many of whom do v**e ) who are looking for a handout rather than a job. Your so-called "safety net" has become a hammock for the lazy. And, what is it now, about 49 or 50 million on food stamps - pretty much all Democrat v**ers - and the program is absolutely rife with fraud and absolutely no congressional oversight?

I would offer that you are not entirely to blame. What changed you is the seductive environment of power in which you have immersed yourselves. It is the nature of both houses of Congress which requires you to subordinate your virtue in order to get anything done until you have achieved a leadership role. To paraphrase President Reagan, it appears that the second oldest profession (politics), bears a remarkably strong resemblance to the oldest.

As the hirsute first Baron John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton (1834 -1902), English historian and moralist, so aptly and accurately stated, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." I'm only guessing that this applies to the female sex as well. Tell me, is there a more corrupt entity in this country than Congress?

While we middle class people continue to struggle, our government becomes less and less t***sparent, more and more bureaucratic, and ever so much more dictatorial, using Czars and Secretaries to tell us (just to mention a very few) what kind of light bulbs we must purchase, how much soda or hamburgers we can eat, what cars we can drive, gasoline to use, and what health care we must buy. Countless thousands of pages of regulations strangle our businesses costing the consumer more and more every day.

As I face my final year, or so, with cancer, my president and my government tell me "You'll just have to take a pill," while you, Senator, your colleagues, the president, and other exulted government officials and their families will get the best possible health care on our tax dollars until you are called home by your Creator while also enjoying a retirement beyond my wildest dreams, which of course, you v**ed for yourselves and we pay for.

The chances of you reading this letter are practically zero as your staff will not pass it on, but with a little luck, a form letter response might be generated by them with an auto signature applied, hoping we will believe that you, our senator or representative, has heard us and actually cares. This letter will, however, go on line where many others will have the chance to read one person's opinion, rightly or wrongly, about this government, its administration and its senators and representatives.

I only hope that occasionally you might quietly thank the taxpayer for all the generous entitlements which you have v**ed yourselves, for which, by law, we must pay, unless, of course, it just goes on the $19 trillion national debt for which your children and ours, and your grandchildren and ours, ad infinitum, must eventually try to pick up the tab.

My final thoughts are that it must take a person who has either lost his or her soul, or conscience, or both, to seek re-e******n and continue to destroy the country that I deeply love. You have put it so far in debt that we will never pay it off while your lot improves by the minute, because of your power.

For you, Senator, will never stand up to the rascals in your House who constantly deceive the American people. And that, my dear Senator, is how power has corrupted you and the entire Congress. The only answer to clean up this cesspool is term limits and replacing their retirement with the same Social Security plan the rest of us will receive (if they don't put that program into bankruptcy) . This, of course, will k**l the goose that lays your golden eggs. And woe be to him (or her) who would dare to bring it up.

Sincerely,
Bill Schoonover
3096 Angela Lane
Oak Harbor, WA

Maybe....just maybe this is the reason the political establishment is against Trump. He may just k**l the goose......

IF WE SEND THIS TO ENOUGH PEOPLE MAYBE WE CAN START A MOVEMENT TO CORRECT THIS FIASCO!
From Sandy M. - Oct 4, 2016 br br COST OF SENATE ... (show quote)
Sure a to the manor born man brat who is so egomaniacal he craps in a golden toilet is going to save us from those greedy congressmen who make 174K a year. What kind of an i***t buys that. If Trump paid the same rate of tax as a Nurse or Cop he alone could pay the salaries of the entire US Congress.

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Oct 4, 2016 14:52:32   #
Kevyn
 
pafret wrote:
An update on the convention:


They held simulated conventions in pr********ns for the real thing. The first ever, historic Convention of States Simulation is now complete. One-hundred and thirty-seven delegates representing every state in the nation convened in Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia, Sept. 21-23.

The full Convention will be issuing a statement on Monday morning, which will include the proposed Amendments which were successfully v**ed out.

Here's a quick preview. The Convention passed amendment proposals on the following six ideas:
· Requiring the states to approve any increase in the national debt
· Term limits on Congress
· Limiting federal overreach by returning the Commerce Clause to its original meaning
· Limiting the power of federal regulations by giving an easy congressional override
· Require a super majority for federal taxes and repeal the 16th Amendment
· Give the states (by a 3/5ths v**e) the power to abrogate any federal law, regulation or executive order.

"The events at Williamsburg will be remembered as a turning point in history. The spirit of liberty and self government has been reignited." Michael Farris - Co-Founder, Convention of States Project.
Here's what happened.

Amendment proposal:
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/6429/attachments/original/1474898033/Final_Convention_Report.pdf?1474898033&utm_source=AE_List&utm_campaign=a880ec471b-9_27_16_COS_Program_Email_AE&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_5784f1cbb9-a880ec471b-219135745


Final Convention Report
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/6429/attachments/original/1474898033/Final_Convention_Report.pdf?1474898033&utm_source=Convention+of+States+Project&utm_campaign=698b2a848f-9_27_16_COS_Program_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_45196125c1-698b2a848f-219285881
An update on the convention: br br br They held ... (show quote)
Wow, a "simulated convention" I guess they are right when they say tea parties are for little girls with imaginary freinds.

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Oct 4, 2016 15:03:22   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Kevyn wrote:
Wow, a "simulated convention" I guess they are right when they say tea parties are for little girls with imaginary freinds.


Practice makes perfect, they have not yet reached the number of states needed to call for the convention. This is in part because of fears that such a convention could not be controlled and might significantly alter the constitution. Those fears are unfounded because getting enough states for an article V convention simply means that constitutional revision will be on the congressional agenda. The states do not directly modify the Constitution.

All these convention practices do is clarify the issues which need to be addressed and give some insight as to problems which can occur. They also show that Runaway revision is not going to happen.

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