Will Obama Succeed: Recently, In a exchange of thoughts with a fellow poster on this site he (Sir Jonhatfield) suggested that in order for me to understand the radical rightwignuts as...

stymie

Recently, In a exchange of thoughts with a fellow poster on this site he (Sir Jonhatfield) suggested that in order for me to understand the radical rightwignuts as he called us that I should look up a writing by Eric Hoffer - The True Believer in Wikipedia. I did look it up only because I was curious to see what the extreme left, of which Jonhatfield is a part of, see us to be. The article covers the subject of Mass Movements and as I read it a pattern emerges. The pattern was not about the Rightwingnuts description that I was told would be there but a schematic of how to herd the population into a Mass Movement. At this point I would hope that everyone reading this go to the article referenced in Wikipedia so that you better understand what I'm about to say. Sorry I could not get a link.
You Back?
First - The leader of the Movement must be " A MAN OF WORDS " Our articulate Obama is that as long as you keep him on the teleprompter.
Second - To sway the masses you do not have to believe in God but you must believe in the Devil. The Devil can be anything and in our case Obama has made the Devil " Capitalism, Big Greedy Corporations and the Wealthy.
Third - Be a part of larger collective. Total surrender of individual goals and opinions and push identifying with a larger community. Obama told you, "you didn't build that" to destroy individuality. Obama says, we must have Redistribution of wealth, again destroying individual goals because if everybody gets the same why I'm I busting my ass; its going to change nothing.
Fourth - Desire for Change, when people are happy they do not want change so how do we make them unhappy? Well a good start is to loose their jobs. Run out of money, loose their home, not able to buy food or afford utilities. Obama by design has regulated most companies out of business. Those that are h*****g by their fingernails will fall out when the full impact of those regulations plus ACA costs hit. Hoffer said the best source of converts for the Mass Movement is the new poor because the abjectly poor do not participate as their struggles with survival overwhelms their desire for change. We now have all the new poor we want.
Fifth - We just said the abjectly poor will not participate but we need numbers, how do we get them? Obama says subsidize, increase entitlements extend unemployment forever. When we get them on our dole they will be irredeemably spoiled with no hope so they will no longer have a choice but to do our bidding.
We could continue this diatribe indefinitely but I'm asking did you see the same thing I saw or did you see something differently I really would like to know.
Lastly, As a final comment to Sir Jonhatfield; I saw nothing in Mr. Hoffer's article that relates to understanding as you say Rightwingnuts and with all due respect I must stick to my previous determination that you sir are truly delusional and should seek medical assistance.

cimiron

stymie wrote:

Recently, In a exchange of thoughts with a fellow poster on this site he (Sir Jonhatfield) suggested that in order for me to understand the radical rightwignuts as he called us that I should look up a writing by Eric Hoffer - The True Believer in Wikipedia. I did look it up only because I was curious to see what the extreme left, of which Jonhatfield is a part of, see us to be. The article covers the subject of Mass Movements and as I read it a pattern emerges. The pattern was not about the Rightwingnuts description that I was told would be there but a schematic of how to herd the population into a Mass Movement. At this point I would hope that everyone reading this go to the article referenced in Wikipedia so that you better understand what I'm about to say. Sorry I could not get a link.
You Back?
First - The leader of the Movement must be " A MAN OF WORDS " Our articulate Obama is that as long as you keep him on the teleprompter.
Second - To sway the masses you do not have to believe in God but you must believe in the Devil. The Devil can be anything and in our case Obama has made the Devil " Capitalism, Big Greedy Corporations and the Wealthy.
Third - Be a part of larger collective. Total surrender of individual goals and opinions and push identifying with a larger community. Obama told you, "you didn't build that" to destroy individuality. Obama says, we must have Redistribution of wealth, again destroying individual goals because if everybody gets the same why I'm I busting my ass; its going to change nothing.
Fourth - Desire for Change, when people are happy they do not want change so how do we make them unhappy? Well a good start is to loose their jobs. Run out of money, loose their home, not able to buy food or afford utilities. Obama by design has regulated most companies out of business. Those that are h*****g by their fingernails will fall out when the full impact of those regulations plus ACA costs hit. Hoffer said the best source of converts for the Mass Movement is the new poor because the abjectly poor do not participate as their struggles with survival overwhelms their desire for change. We now have all the new poor we want.
Fifth - We just said the abjectly poor will not participate but we need numbers, how do we get them? Obama says subsidize, increase entitlements extend unemployment forever. When we get them on our dole they will be irredeemably spoiled with no hope so they will no longer have a choice but to do our bidding.
We could continue this diatribe indefinitely but I'm asking did you see the same thing I saw or did you see something differently I really would like to know.
Lastly, As a final comment to Sir Jonhatfield; I saw nothing in Mr. Hoffer's article that relates to understanding as you say Rightwingnuts and with all due respect I must stick to my previous determination that you sir are truly delusional and should seek medical assistance.

Recently, In a exchange of thoughts with a fellow ... (show quote)

this is a true assessment of our lousy so called leader

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

stymie wrote:

Recently, In a exchange of thoughts with a fellow poster on this site he (Sir Jonhatfield) suggested that in order for me to understand the radical rightwignuts as he called us that I should look up a writing by Eric Hoffer - The True Believer in Wikipedia. I did look it up only because I was curious to see what the extreme left, of which Jonhatfield is a part of, see us to be. The article covers the subject of Mass Movements and as I read it a pattern emerges. The pattern was not about the Rightwingnuts description that I was told would be there but a schematic of how to herd the population into a Mass Movement. At this point I would hope that everyone reading this go to the article referenced in Wikipedia so that you better understand what I'm about to say. Sorry I could not get a link.
You Back?
First - The leader of the Movement must be " A MAN OF WORDS " Our articulate Obama is that as long as you keep him on the teleprompter.
Second - To sway the masses you do not have to believe in God but you must believe in the Devil. The Devil can be anything and in our case Obama has made the Devil " Capitalism, Big Greedy Corporations and the Wealthy.
Third - Be a part of larger collective. Total surrender of individual goals and opinions and push identifying with a larger community. Obama told you, "you didn't build that" to destroy individuality. Obama says, we must have Redistribution of wealth, again destroying individual goals because if everybody gets the same why I'm I busting my ass; its going to change nothing.
Fourth - Desire for Change, when people are happy they do not want change so how do we make them unhappy? Well a good start is to loose their jobs. Run out of money, loose their home, not able to buy food or afford utilities. Obama by design has regulated most companies out of business. Those that are h*****g by their fingernails will fall out when the full impact of those regulations plus ACA costs hit. Hoffer said the best source of converts for the Mass Movement is the new poor because the abjectly poor do not participate as their struggles with survival overwhelms their desire for change. We now have all the new poor we want.
Fifth - We just said the abjectly poor will not participate but we need numbers, how do we get them? Obama says subsidize, increase entitlements extend unemployment forever. When we get them on our dole they will be irredeemably spoiled with no hope so they will no longer have a choice but to do our bidding.
We could continue this diatribe indefinitely but I'm asking did you see the same thing I saw or did you see something differently I really would like to know.
Lastly, As a final comment to Sir Jonhatfield; I saw nothing in Mr. Hoffer's article that relates to understanding as you say Rightwingnuts and with all due respect I must stick to my previous determination that you sir are truly delusional and should seek medical assistance.

Recently, In a exchange of thoughts with a fellow ... (show quote)

I am glad to see that we don't need to think for ourselves anymore. We don't need to, there are more than enough books, articles and blogs to do all our thinking for us.

CALLOWAY50

The thing i don't understand is why in the HELL can't we get rid that dam first grader O LIER AS WE KNOW HIM. I mean it wasn't a problem before, but dam sure is now.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

You a right nut by default in his mind, you fail to agree and if not that your predigest, me too I guess.

stymie wrote:

Recently, In a exchange of thoughts with a fellow poster on this site he (Sir Jonhatfield) suggested that in order for me to understand the radical rightwignuts as he called us that I should look up a writing by Eric Hoffer - The True Believer in Wikipedia. I did look it up only because I was curious to see what the extreme left, of which Jonhatfield is a part of, see us to be. The article covers the subject of Mass Movements and as I read it a pattern emerges. The pattern was not about the Rightwingnuts description that I was told would be there but a schematic of how to herd the population into a Mass Movement. At this point I would hope that everyone reading this go to the article referenced in Wikipedia so that you better understand what I'm about to say. Sorry I could not get a link.
You Back?
First - The leader of the Movement must be " A MAN OF WORDS " Our articulate Obama is that as long as you keep him on the teleprompter.
Second - To sway the masses you do not have to believe in God but you must believe in the Devil. The Devil can be anything and in our case Obama has made the Devil " Capitalism, Big Greedy Corporations and the Wealthy.
Third - Be a part of larger collective. Total surrender of individual goals and opinions and push identifying with a larger community. Obama told you, "you didn't build that" to destroy individuality. Obama says, we must have Redistribution of wealth, again destroying individual goals because if everybody gets the same why I'm I busting my ass; its going to change nothing.
Fourth - Desire for Change, when people are happy they do not want change so how do we make them unhappy? Well a good start is to loose their jobs. Run out of money, loose their home, not able to buy food or afford utilities. Obama by design has regulated most companies out of business. Those that are h*****g by their fingernails will fall out when the full impact of those regulations plus ACA costs hit. Hoffer said the best source of converts for the Mass Movement is the new poor because the abjectly poor do not participate as their struggles with survival overwhelms their desire for change. We now have all the new poor we want.
Fifth - We just said the abjectly poor will not participate but we need numbers, how do we get them? Obama says subsidize, increase entitlements extend unemployment forever. When we get them on our dole they will be irredeemably spoiled with no hope so they will no longer have a choice but to do our bidding.
We could continue this diatribe indefinitely but I'm asking did you see the same thing I saw or did you see something differently I really would like to know.
Lastly, As a final comment to Sir Jonhatfield; I saw nothing in Mr. Hoffer's article that relates to understanding as you say Rightwingnuts and with all due respect I must stick to my previous determination that you sir are truly delusional and should seek medical assistance.

Recently, In a exchange of thoughts with a fellow ... (show quote)

imp Loc: Mn.

Yes he succeeded! Manufacture bullets.

imp Loc: Mn.

Yes he succeeded! Manufacture bullets.

imp Loc: Mn.

Yes he succeeded! Manufacture bullets.

stymie

lpnmajor wrote:

I am glad to see that we don't need to think for ourselves anymore. We don't need to, there are more than enough books, articles and blogs to do all our thinking for us.

Did you read the article, actually it's a book, or are just running your mouth without knowing what your talking about as always? The book by Hoffer was written in 1951 and as I read the Wikipedia summary of the book the pattern of Obama's actions seemed to fall into place. I referenced Obama's actions to the description of what Hoffer was saying other power grabbers in the past have done, i.e. Hitler, Lenin, Stalin and others through Mass Movements. I simply asked if you saw the same thing as me but I would say from your response that thinking may be a painful process for people of your persuasion.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

stymie wrote:

Did you read the article, actually it's a book, or... (show quote)

You made my point exactly! I don't read other peoples stuff to get my ideas. I create my own but I understand that some folk like you are not able too. Nothing to be ashamed of.

stymie

lpnmajor wrote:

You made my point exactly! I don't read other peoples stuff to get my ideas. I create my own but I understand that some folk like you are not able too. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Your still missing the point, but I understand your ideology gets in the way of critical thinking. Must feel hopeless to live in a world where no realistic thoughts can penetrate your dogma. I would venture to say you have never had a thought of your own in your life and are like most of your left leaning associates attempting to misdirect rather than have a meaningful dialogue. Having said that, Do you have any thoughts relative to the subject of this thread or is this just your lame attempt at trolling.

Armageddun Loc: The show me state

Some people are educated well beyond their intelligence. I respectfully have the opinion that there are a few on this post who fit the description.

grey gringo Loc: South Texas

Styie: You can't teach a pig to sing. You get mud all over you and it annoys the s**t out of the pig. (it is pointless to argue with a l*****t)

stymie wrote:

Your still missing the point, but I understand you... (show quote)

stymie

grey gringo wrote:

Styie: You can't teach a pig to sing. You get mud all over you and it annoys the s**t out of the pig. (it is pointless to argue with a l*****t)

I'm beginning to understand that. :thumbup:

parob2005

HELL NO!!!!!!!!