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Sep 27, 2016 16:32:28   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
I hear this argument all the time. Atheists claim that we believe in a Creator simply because we can't explain why we're here. Nothing could be further from the t***h. The t***h is that something that exhibits a certain level of complexity and organization is indicative of intelligent design.

If you were stranded on a desert Island, how would you call for help? Would you use rocks, on the beach, to spell S.O.S, or would you just make a pile of rocks? The first one is the result of intelligent design. The later can be seen as the result of natural processes. Which one will get the rescuers attention?

There is something inside every living cell that is so complex we barely understand how it works. These are known as gene regulatory networks. Some scientists have compared them to neural networks. They can be mapped and understood, on a simplistic level as Boolean operations, yet that doesn't give us the entire picture. In fact, there is an organization that offers a reward for whoever can come up with a better way to explain how they work.

I'm going to post a few pictures. They are visual representations of GRN's. Each cell in our bodies actually has a larger network of GRN's. Call it a meta GRN. These Networks communicate with each other, as well as responding to outside influences. These GRN's actually work just like a computer. Yet they are much more complex than our most advanced computers.

There is also the fact that if just one of the thousands of components in these networks was missing, the cell would die. In order for these networks to exist in the first place, all the parts would have to be in place and functioning at the same time. Something evolution is not capable of doing. The fact that one missing element can destroy the entire cell argues that a simpler version does not exist.

I could go on, but I'll just post those pictures I mentioned. Take a look at them, then try to tell me that unguided natural processes created these.









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Sep 27, 2016 16:41:55   #
guitarman Loc: University Park, Florida
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
I hear this argument all the time. Atheists claim that we believe in a Creator simply because we can't explain why we're here. Nothing could be further from the t***h. The t***h is that something that exhibits a certain level of complexity and organization is indicative of intelligent design.

If you were stranded on a desert Island, how would you call for help? Would you use rocks, on the beach, to spell S.O.S, or would you just make a pile of rocks? The first one is the result of intelligent design. The later can be seen as the result of natural processes. Which one will get the rescuers attention?

There is something inside every living cell that is so complex we barely understand how it works. These are known as gene regulatory networks. Some scientists have compared them to neural networks. They can be mapped and understood, on a simplistic level as Boolean operations, yet that doesn't give us the entire picture. In fact, there is an organization that offers a reward for whoever can come up with a better way to explain how they work.

I'm going to post a few pictures. They are visual representations of GRN's. Each cell in our bodies actually has a larger network of GRN's. Call it a meta GRN. These Networks communicate with each other, as well as responding to outside influences. These GRN's actually work just like a computer. Yet they are much more complex than our most advanced computers.

There is also the fact that if just one of the thousands of components in these networks was missing, the cell would die. In order for these networks to exist in the first place, all the parts would have to be in place and functioning at the same time. Something evolution is not capable of doing. The fact that one missing element can destroy the entire cell argues that a simpler version does not exist.

I could go on, but I'll just post those pictures I mentioned. Take a look at them, then try to tell me that unguided natural processes created these.
I hear this argument all the time. Atheists claim ... (show quote)


Mitochondria have ruled the planet for many millions of years. Sun worship makes some sense, once the sun goes go all life on the planet will cease to exist. God created the stars and heavens, super cool how it had it figured out, so long ago.

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Sep 27, 2016 17:29:48   #
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Sep 28, 2016 02:19:50   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
sweetlips wrote:
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That darn big bang!

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Sep 28, 2016 11:26:38   #
bahmer
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
I hear this argument all the time. Atheists claim that we believe in a Creator simply because we can't explain why we're here. Nothing could be further from the t***h. The t***h is that something that exhibits a certain level of complexity and organization is indicative of intelligent design.

If you were stranded on a desert Island, how would you call for help? Would you use rocks, on the beach, to spell S.O.S, or would you just make a pile of rocks? The first one is the result of intelligent design. The later can be seen as the result of natural processes. Which one will get the rescuers attention?

There is something inside every living cell that is so complex we barely understand how it works. These are known as gene regulatory networks. Some scientists have compared them to neural networks. They can be mapped and understood, on a simplistic level as Boolean operations, yet that doesn't give us the entire picture. In fact, there is an organization that offers a reward for whoever can come up with a better way to explain how they work.

I'm going to post a few pictures. They are visual representations of GRN's. Each cell in our bodies actually has a larger network of GRN's. Call it a meta GRN. These Networks communicate with each other, as well as responding to outside influences. These GRN's actually work just like a computer. Yet they are much more complex than our most advanced computers.

There is also the fact that if just one of the thousands of components in these networks was missing, the cell would die. In order for these networks to exist in the first place, all the parts would have to be in place and functioning at the same time. Something evolution is not capable of doing. The fact that one missing element can destroy the entire cell argues that a simpler version does not exist.

I could go on, but I'll just post those pictures I mentioned. Take a look at them, then try to tell me that unguided natural processes created these.
I hear this argument all the time. Atheists claim ... (show quote)


And they try to equate the existence of life to primordial ooze on a beach and a bolt of lightning? Dream on Darwinian's dream on.

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Sep 28, 2016 14:13:50   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
bahmer wrote:
And they try to equate the existence of life to primordial ooze on a beach and a bolt of lightning? Dream on Darwinian's dream on.


I firmly believe that most people believe in evolution for one reason only. The alternative is abhorrent to them. A living God, that they must answer to. It's the stuff of nightmares. They lie to themselves, so they can sleep at night. Those who still posses anything resembling a conscience, that is. After lying to themselves, and living a life of sin, their conscience ceases to trouble them. They have severed their last link for redemption. They are to be pitied.

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Sep 28, 2016 19:05:35   #
bahmer
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
I firmly believe that most people believe in evolution for one reason only. The alternative is abhorrent to them. A living God, that they must answer to. It's the stuff of nightmares. They lie to themselves, so they can sleep at night. Those who still posses anything resembling a conscience, that is. After lying to themselves, and living a life of sin, their conscience ceases to trouble them. They have severed their last link for redemption. They are to be pitied.


Amen and Amen

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Sep 29, 2016 00:17:54   #
Big dog
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
I hear this argument all the time. Atheists claim that we believe in a Creator simply because we can't explain why we're here. Nothing could be further from the t***h. The t***h is that something that exhibits a certain level of complexity and organization is indicative of intelligent design.

If you were stranded on a desert Island, how would you call for help? Would you use rocks, on the beach, to spell S.O.S, or would you just make a pile of rocks? The first one is the result of intelligent design. The later can be seen as the result of natural processes. Which one will get the rescuers attention?

There is something inside every living cell that is so complex we barely understand how it works. These are known as gene regulatory networks. Some scientists have compared them to neural networks. They can be mapped and understood, on a simplistic level as Boolean operations, yet that doesn't give us the entire picture. In fact, there is an organization that offers a reward for whoever can come up with a better way to explain how they work.

I'm going to post a few pictures. They are visual representations of GRN's. Each cell in our bodies actually has a larger network of GRN's. Call it a meta GRN. These Networks communicate with each other, as well as responding to outside influences. These GRN's actually work just like a computer. Yet they are much more complex than our most advanced computers.

There is also the fact that if just one of the thousands of components in these networks was missing, the cell would die. In order for these networks to exist in the first place, all the parts would have to be in place and functioning at the same time. Something evolution is not capable of doing. The fact that one missing element can destroy the entire cell argues that a simpler version does not exist.

I could go on, but I'll just post those pictures I mentioned. Take a look at them, then try to tell me that unguided natural processes created these.
I hear this argument all the time. Atheists claim ... (show quote)

The universe is infinitely large, and therefore infinitely small. WOW what a GREAT complex place. ONLY an intelligent design could have a chance at explaining all this.
Me, I'll put my faith in my God. Who that God is, is between me and my God.
Suffice it to say, Yes, I believe.
Until the Unbelievers can explain that which I have seen first hand in this world, they got no case.

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Sep 29, 2016 00:19:50   #
Big dog
 
Big dog wrote:
The universe is infinitely large, and therefore infinitely small. WOW what a GREAT complex place. ONLY an intelligent design could have a chance at explaining all this.
Me, I'll put my faith in my God. Who that God is, is between me and my God.
Suffice it to say, Yes, I believe.
Until the Unbelievers can explain that which I have seen first hand in this world, they got no case.

Oh yeah, evolution is just Gods way of keeping things new. Part of the plan, of course.!

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Sep 29, 2016 15:15:55   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Big dog wrote:
Oh yeah, evolution is just Gods way of keeping things new. Part of the plan, of course.!


There is no observable evidence for evolution. At least the one Darwin gave us. However, God gave all living creatures the ability to adapt to their environment. Is that what you're referring to?

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Sep 29, 2016 16:09:10   #
Big dog
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
There is no observable evidence for evolution. At least the one Darwin gave us. However, God gave all living creatures the ability to adapt to their environment. Is that what you're referring to?


Same difference.

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Sep 29, 2016 16:15:32   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Big dog wrote:
Same difference.


Uh, no. It isn't. Might want to Google it. Evolution is the belief that all life had a common ancestor. Adaptation is the expression of genetic traits that already exist. The first one is a myth. The second one is observable fact. As such, people use the later in a dishonest attempt to prove the former.

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Sep 29, 2016 16:19:21   #
Big dog
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
Uh, no. It isn't. Might want to Google it. Evolution is the belief that all life had a common ancestor. Adaptation is the expression of genetic traits that already exist. The first one is a myth. The second one is observable fact. As such, people use the later in a dishonest attempt to prove the former.


So the world is, what, 5000 years old ?

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Sep 29, 2016 23:06:19   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Big dog wrote:
So the world is, what, 5000 years old ?


I don't pretend to know. But evolution has no credible evidence to support it.

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Sep 29, 2016 23:32:01   #
Big dog
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
I don't pretend to know. But evolution has no credible evidence to support it.


I'm guessing you're not much into nature, forgive me if I'm wrong.
But let me say, I've spent my whole life learning, living with, and loving every creature and,/or plant.
I'm a born Christian, and was an alter boy.
I believe in the Lord Jesus.
I also know that our planet and His Plan is beyond our perception.
I figure, Darwin had a very clear thought, given to him through.."divine intervention"....?
Either way, theology and science both sail in the same boat.
Just a thought.

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