Ummm now wait a minute.............
Nov 20, 2013 16:59:31 #
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hhs-plans-spend-7b-find-ways-reduce-costs-under-obamacare_767960.html
Up to 7 Billion "with a B" to lower costs and improve quality. No matter what the media is spouting on the ACA, this program is hemorrhaging money already due to its colossal failure of implementation and unmet estimates of enrollment that are clearly starving the laws viability to death. The government is already throwing millions of dollars at trying to fix this debacle that seems to be unfixable to begin with. Now they want to throw even more money at trying to find ways to improve it?
Does this make any sense to any one else?
Up to 7 Billion "with a B" to lower costs and improve quality. No matter what the media is spouting on the ACA, this program is hemorrhaging money already due to its colossal failure of implementation and unmet estimates of enrollment that are clearly starving the laws viability to death. The government is already throwing millions of dollars at trying to fix this debacle that seems to be unfixable to begin with. Now they want to throw even more money at trying to find ways to improve it?
Does this make any sense to any one else?
Nov 20, 2013 17:12:24 #
lone_ghost wrote:
Yes, it makes sense that the Government wants to nationalize the health care and medical industry, in the same way the government of Venezuela nationalized the oil industry, and now the electronics industry.
By making a tangled mess, they will entice the people to beg the government to take it over and fix the mess. If this is their plan, it makes perfect sense for them to screw everything up.
Nov 20, 2013 17:38:54 #
jay-are wrote:
Yes, it makes sense that the Government wants to nationalize the health care and medical industry, in the same way the government of Venezuela nationalized the oil industry, and now the electronics industry.
By making a tangled mess, they will entice the people to beg the government to take it over and fix the mess. If this is their plan, it makes perfect sense for them to screw everything up.
By making a tangled mess, they will entice the people to beg the government to take it over and fix the mess. If this is their plan, it makes perfect sense for them to screw everything up.
A little off the mark, but a good point none the less.
Nov 20, 2013 17:49:56 #
lone_ghost wrote:
A little off the mark, but a good point none the less.
You seem a little naive. I see facts.
These people are highly educated. They are not incompetent nincompoops. The screw ups and wasteful spending cannot be by accident.
Face reality. Recognize that what they are doing makes sense. You just have to understand what the sense is.
It is wrong, but it makes perfect sense.
The fact that they are doing it is proof they are intentionally screwing things up.
It only doesn't make sense if they are trying to do something positive and helpful.
What doesn't make sense is for you to believe that they are trying to improve the health care industry, or reduce costs.
Nov 20, 2013 18:33:02 #
jay-are wrote:
You seem a little naive. I see facts. br br Th... (show quote)
H**e to tell you this bud, but you do not make any sense. Sometimes you are very lucid and post well thought out comments. Other times you are just all over the place man. I am not talking about policy, I am talking about economics. I think that is what is not making sense to you.
Nov 20, 2013 21:12:06 #
lone_ghost wrote:
The senator from Texas is all for ending Obamacare but what does he have in mind for 820,000 children in his state alone without health care, which seems to have the most uninsured people. Is the point to do nothing whatsoever about this deplorable state of affairs but sabotage the present effort at a fix? Yes, Obamacare is a mess and seems doomed to fail, but will there be an alternative? All that time before it came online no efforts to resolve its shortcomings and mend its flaws; instead, how many useless v**es to repeal? Was it forty times?
Nov 20, 2013 21:20:49 #
rumitoid wrote:
The senator from Texas is all for ending Obamacare... (show quote)
That was then and this is now. Forty times before the implementation, none after. The question is, why has that v**e not been revisited?
Nov 20, 2013 21:21:38 #
rumitoid wrote:
The senator from Texas is all for ending Obamacare... (show quote)
How many of those people just do not want health insurance? Take the few that want it and can't afford it and do the math. We could have helped these people many times over with what this debacle has cost and will cost.
Nov 20, 2013 21:40:10 #
JerryMac wrote:
How many of those people just do not want health insurance? Take the few that want it and can't afford it and do the math. We could have helped these people many times over with what this debacle has cost and will cost.
Well lets look at the math on that. Round everything off and Obamacare was a way to insure 30 million Americans who did not have health care insurance. There are app. 316 million people in the United States. So 90% of us who work, and HAD good insurance, need to now lose our policies and go on the exchanges so that our money can pay for 10% of the populations healthcare.
You are correct, A policy or law that addressed that ten percent would have been cheaper than a unilateral change to health insurance as a whole. Obamacare is not about insurance, it is not about social e******y. It is about thrusting this nation into socialism. As soon as they get what they want. Every one will suffer.
Nov 20, 2013 23:23:27 #
lone_ghost wrote:
Yeah, if your goal all along is a single payer system, which every single one on the left has admitted to wanting.
It is one of Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals", the same reason they are trying so hard to take away all our guns.
Nov 20, 2013 23:36:11 #
rumitoid wrote:
The senator from Texas is all for ending Obamacare... (show quote)
Hey toid, how can you "resolve" and "mend" something you're never given access to???
As far as the 820,000 children that might be affected, ARE YOU F***ING KIDDING ME, if democ-RATS cared one single iota what happened to children, they would do something about a******n.
I find it funny that the left cares SOOOOOO very much about what happens to children when there is a mass shooting, but couldn't give a s**t less when thousands a day are slaughtered for no other reason than they are an inconvenience for the parents!!!!!!!!!!!
When it comes to caring about the kids, save your sanctimonious bulls**t.
Nov 20, 2013 23:39:51 #
Reaganite wrote:
Yeah, if your goal all along is a single payer system, which every single one on the left has admitted to wanting.
It is one of Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals", the same reason they are trying so hard to take away all our guns.
It is one of Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals", the same reason they are trying so hard to take away all our guns.
Well that is their plan, is it not?
Nov 21, 2013 00:34:10 #
lpnmajor
Loc: Arkansas
lone_ghost wrote:
ACA was the dumbest thing to come along since talking cars. I know there are " conspiracies " about ACA but I think it was plain old stupidity.
Nov 21, 2013 00:54:30 #
lpnmajor wrote:
ACA was the dumbest thing to come along since talking cars. I know there are " conspiracies " about ACA but I think it was plain old stupidity.
I would agree with you.
Nov 21, 2013 02:22:48 #
lone_ghost wrote:
Well lets look at the math on that. Round everythi... (show quote)
Of the 10% who did not have health insurance! how many voluntarily have no health insurance?
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