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Is God transgender?
Aug 20, 2016 12:18:27   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2016/08/saying-god-is-transgender/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Evangelical%20081716%20(1)&utm_content=&spMailingID=52093491&spUserID=MTU3MDI1NzQxNjQ0S0&spJobID=983336685&spReportId=OTgzMzM2Njg1S0

The left will do what ever they can to distort the bible. They go all the way to "Queering Christ" which claims that God and Christ had anal intercourse in front of the apostles and then Christ tells them to act the same way with each other. The book "Queering Christ" goes into the concepts that go past the claims and preachings of the Metropolitan Community church which is bad enough

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Aug 21, 2016 12:09:05   #
PeterS
 
no propaganda please wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2016/08/saying-god-is-transgender/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Evangelical%20081716%20(1)&utm_content=&spMailingID=52093491&spUserID=MTU3MDI1NzQxNjQ0S0&spJobID=983336685&spReportId=OTgzMzM2Njg1S0

The left will do what ever they can to distort the bible. They go all the way to "Queering Christ" which claims that God and Christ had anal intercourse in front of the apostles and then Christ tells them to act the same way with each other. The book "Queering Christ" goes into the concepts that go past the claims and preachings of the Metropolitan Community church which is bad enough
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2016/08/say... (show quote)


Transgender? I would think he is a hermaphrodite--both male and female--what else could he be....

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Aug 21, 2016 17:48:16   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
God is both male and female. We were all created in the image and likeness of God. On earth, God will inhabit the body of a woman. Angels and God in spirit form have no gender. God on earth is half and half.

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Sep 2, 2016 17:40:13   #
L8erToots
 
I have been reading writings from The Nag Hammadi Library and while I understand that these are not in the Old or New Testiment, they are still food for thought.
Here is a description of God from "Eugnostos the Blessed"
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/eugn.html

"...He-Who-Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world, except he alone. For he is immortal and eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. No one rules over him. He has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another. He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another. He has his own semblance - not like the semblance we have received and seen, but a strange semblance that surpasses all things and is better than the totalities. It looks to every side and sees itself from itself. He is infinite; he is incomprehensible. He is ever imperishable (and) has no likeness (to anything). He is unchanging good. He is faultless. He is everlasting. He is blessed. He is unknowable, while he (nonetheless) knows himself. He is immeasurable. He is untraceable. He is perfect, having no defect. He is imperishably blessed. He is called 'Father of the Universe'.
Before anything is visible among those that are visible, the majesty and the authorities that are in him, he embraces the totalities of the totalities, and nothing embraces him. For he is all mind, thought and reflecting, considering, rationality and power. They all are equal powers. They are the sources of the totalities. And their whole race <from first> to last is in the foreknowledge of the Unbegotten, for they had not yet come to visibility..."

Then there is this from The Gospel of Thomas
Translated by Thomas O. Lambdin
(From The Nag Hammadi Scriptures)

(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

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Sep 24, 2016 09:23:22   #
fredlott63
 
L8erToots wrote:
I have been reading writings from The Nag Hammadi Library and while I understand that these are not in the Old or New Testiment, they are still food for thought.
Here is a description of God from "Eugnostos the Blessed"
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/eugn.html

"...He-Who-Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world, except he alone. For he is immortal and eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. No one rules over him. He has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another. He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another. He has his own semblance - not like the semblance we have received and seen, but a strange semblance that surpasses all things and is better than the totalities. It looks to every side and sees itself from itself. He is infinite; he is incomprehensible. He is ever
No wonder he wasn't canonized.

imperishable (and) has no likeness (to anything). He is unchanging good. He is faultless. He is everlasting. He is blessed. He is unknowable, while he (nonetheless) knows himself. He is immeasurable. He is untraceable. He is perfect, having no defect. He is imperishably blessed. He is called 'Father of the Universe'.
Before anything is visible among those that are visible, the majesty and the authorities that are in him, he embraces the totalities of the totalities, and nothing embraces him. For he is all mind, thought and reflecting, considering, rationality and power. They all are equal powers. They are the sources of the totalities. And their whole race <from first> to last is in the foreknowledge of the Unbegotten, for they had not yet come to visibility..."

Then there is this from The Gospel of Thomas
Translated by Thomas O. Lambdin
(From The Nag Hammadi Scriptures)

(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."
I have been reading writings from The Nag Hammadi ... (show quote)

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Sep 24, 2016 09:25:32   #
fredlott63
 
L8erToots wrote:
I have been reading writings from The Nag Hammadi Library and while I understand that these are not in the Old or New Testiment, they are still food for thought.
Here is a description of God from "Eugnostos the Blessed"
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/eugn.html

"...He-Who-Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world, except he alone. For he is immortal and eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. No one rules over him. He has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another. He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another. He has his own semblance - not like the semblance we have received and seen, but a strange semblance that surpasses all things and is better than the totalities. It looks to every side and sees itself from itself. He is infinite; he is incomprehensible. He is ever imperishable (and) has no likeness (to anything). He is unchanging good. He is faultless. He is everlasting. He is blessed. He is unknowable, while he (nonetheless) knows himself. He is immeasurable. He is untraceable. He is perfect, having no defect. He is imperishably blessed. He is called 'Father of the Universe'.
Before anything is visible among those that are visible, the majesty and the authorities that are in him, he embraces the totalities of the totalities, and nothing embraces him. For he is all mind, thought and reflecting, considering, rationality and power. They all are equal powers. They are the sources of the totalities. And their whole race <from first> to last is in the foreknowledge of the Unbegotten, for they had not yet come to visibility..."

Then there is this from The Gospel of Thomas
Translated by Thomas O. Lambdin
(From The Nag Hammadi Scriptures)

(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."
I have been reading writings from The Nag Hammadi ... (show quote)


No wonder he was not cannonized.

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Sep 25, 2016 09:09:56   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
fredlott63 wrote:
No wonder he was not cannonized.




Best Answer: The Infancy Gospel of Thomas contains what are said to be miracles performed by Jesus from early childhood through His youth. Written around the first half of the second century, it suggests what Jesus might have been like as a child. The author identifies himself as 'Thomas, the Israelite". The stories, while interesting, contain inconsistencies in personality characteristics with Jesus as an adult and as described in the New Testament Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

Then there is the Acts of Thomas, written sometime in the third century. This Thomas proclaims the message of a life of asceticism- renouncing the world and its pleasures, especially wealth and sex.

Then there is the Coptic Gospel of Thomas, written after Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. This one was written in Coptic, that is, the language of early Egyptians. It espouses gnosticism, a so-called secret knowledge of the sayings of Jesus that gnostics pursue, believing that if one were able to figure out the mysterious meanings of the says of Jesus, one would then be enlightened and therefore reach salvation. Gnosticism as the higher knowledge of a religious cult to strive for, was warned about in the New Testament writings of Paul. If you read this gospel you might recognize some of the sayings and incidences as being in the Gospel Bible writings of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. But personally, gnosticism strikes me as how some non-believers try to stretch to interpret the Gospel message when they are unable to accept repentence and salvation through Jesus Christ. They may want to believe but cannot humble themselves and therefore use terms like 'secret knowledge' and other phrases to describe the salvation that escapes them. They put their own striving for human knowedge by man and their own prideful intellect above the simplicity of Jesus as Savior and Author of our salvation.



The other books you are mentioning are called Gnostic gospels. Gnosticism is not Christianity (actually just the opposite). These books are forgeries (not written by the name of the gospel, for example, Thomas didn't write Thomas, etc.) from the 2nd to 3rd C.

The first Bible was put together in 420 AD by St. Jerome. Pope Damascus (the 37th pope) asked Jerome to compile and translate into the common language (Latin) just after the Council of Rome in 382 AD. The books were chosen at this Council, and reaffirmed at the Council of Hippo (393), and two Councils of Carthage (397 & 419). The people knew the Gnostic gospels very well and rejected them as they were not writings from the Apostles.

The gospel of Thomas is generally considered a fraud anti Christian and written a long time after the real Gospels. To believe anything written and presented as such a "gospel" is to be misled at best, and guided by evil forces at worst.

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Sep 29, 2016 13:11:11   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Best Answer: The Infancy Gospel of Thomas contains what are said to be miracles performed by Jesus from early childhood through His youth. Written around the first half of the second century, it suggests what Jesus might have been like as a child. The author identifies himself as 'Thomas, the Israelite". The stories, while interesting, contain inconsistencies in personality characteristics with Jesus as an adult and as described in the New Testament Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

Then there is the Acts of Thomas, written sometime in the third century. This Thomas proclaims the message of a life of asceticism- renouncing the world and its pleasures, especially wealth and sex.

Then there is the Coptic Gospel of Thomas, written after Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. This one was written in Coptic, that is, the language of early Egyptians. It espouses gnosticism, a so-called secret knowledge of the sayings of Jesus that gnostics pursue, believing that if one were able to figure out the mysterious meanings of the says of Jesus, one would then be enlightened and therefore reach salvation. Gnosticism as the higher knowledge of a religious cult to strive for, was warned about in the New Testament writings of Paul. If you read this gospel you might recognize some of the sayings and incidences as being in the Gospel Bible writings of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. But personally, gnosticism strikes me as how some non-believers try to stretch to interpret the Gospel message when they are unable to accept repentence and salvation through Jesus Christ. They may want to believe but cannot humble themselves and therefore use terms like 'secret knowledge' and other phrases to describe the salvation that escapes them. They put their own striving for human knowedge by man and their own prideful intellect above the simplicity of Jesus as Savior and Author of our salvation.



The other books you are mentioning are called Gnostic gospels. Gnosticism is not Christianity (actually just the opposite). These books are forgeries (not written by the name of the gospel, for example, Thomas didn't write Thomas, etc.) from the 2nd to 3rd C.

The first Bible was put together in 420 AD by St. Jerome. Pope Damascus (the 37th pope) asked Jerome to compile and translate into the common language (Latin) just after the Council of Rome in 382 AD. The books were chosen at this Council, and reaffirmed at the Council of Hippo (393), and two Councils of Carthage (397 & 419). The people knew the Gnostic gospels very well and rejected them as they were not writings from the Apostles.

The gospel of Thomas is generally considered a fraud anti Christian and written a long time after the real Gospels. To believe anything written and presented as such a "gospel" is to be misled at best, and guided by evil forces at worst.
Best Answer: The Infancy Gospel of Thomas contain... (show quote)



The Bible says God is Spirit, one must worship Him in Spirit and truth. He said to Moses, I AM.

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