cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

How soon do you think the Democratic party will be 100% atheist? Can anyone think of any atheist party in the past that is not infamous?

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

How about this atheist?

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

drop in the bucket dude

Homestead

Thomas Jefferson was not an atheist.
He himself claimed to be Christian.

You need to read your history, instead of parroting the Democrats talking points.

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

Not true, hence this statement!

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

That’s what I thought

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

But the fact is that Jefferson thought differently, he was a deist, and said so many times!

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

You hit the nail on the head for once. all that is in the bible...handbook for life. but all that was 4 to 5 hundred years ago. the bible states...learning from mistakes. how's the Muslims doin?

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

So your are saying Jefferson nailed this on the head also!

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

Not at all. he was judeo-Christian.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Jefferson was no atheist, he was a deist along the lines of Unitarianism. (There is the Thomas Jefferson Unitarian Church in Louisville, KY) Jefferson was deeply but unconventionally religious. An empiricist, he believed that a rational and benevolent God was evident in the beauty and order of the universe. He professed "Christianism," a belief in the morals taught by Jesus of Nazareth, but he rejected Jesus's divinity, resurrection, the atonement, and biblical miracles. Jefferson embraced god-given human rights and opposed their abridgment by government. He is known as one of the founders of American religious freedom, and his phrase "a wall of separation between Church & State" has been viewed as emblematic by historians and by the modern United States Supreme Court.

Shockingly dishonest of you, Wolfe, that you would suggest that Jefferson was an atheist, the man who wrote "When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them . . . ."

The Declaration of Independence, authored by Thomas Jefferson, is on the liberal s**t list just as is our Constitution.

But hey, you still have Einstein and Mark Twain to back you up. For wh**ever that is worth. Why won't you put into your own words your objections to Christianity rather than use what our pastor defines as "Quote crutches."

The honorable thing to do, the most moral and principled position you could take is to allow us Christians to practice our faith without the condemnation. You know, that 1st amendment thing.

None of us really care that you are an atheist, believe wh**ever you want. Your hostility toward Christians is disingenuous.

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

all the founding fathers were judeo-Christian but they knew how separate religion and state with no discriminatory actions toward any religion unlike what's happening today. this will come to a head.

Homestead

Typical liberal i***t. You take some statement out of context and claim you know the t***h.

Here's some Jefferson quotes for you:

Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as pure as they came from his lips, the whole civilized world would now have been Christian.
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When he wrote, "A Summary View of the Rights of British America," in 1774, he wrote:
"complaints which excited by many unwarrantable encroachments and usurpations, attempted to be made by the legislature of one part of the empire, upon the rights which God, and the laws, have given equally and dependently to all.
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On Christianity he said:
To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed;
But, not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian in the only sense he wished any one to be;
Sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others;
ascribing to Himself every human excellence;
and believing he never claimed any other.

Jefferson wrote his own bible and he described it thusly:

I have made a wee-little book from the Gospels which I call the Philosophy of Jesus. It is a paradigm of his doctrines, made by cutting the texts out of the book and arranging them on the pages of a blank book, in a certain order of time and subject. A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen. It is a document in proof that I am a REAL CHRISTIAN, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus, very different from the Platonist, Who call ME infidel and THEMSELVES Christians and preachers of the Gospel,
while they draw all their characteristic dogmas from what its author never said or saw. They have compounded from the heathen mysteries a system beyond the comprehension of man, of which the great reformer of the vicious ethics and deism of the Jews were to return on earth, would not recognize one feature.

To i***ts like you, he left a message:

As to the calumny of Atheism, I am so broken to calumnies of every kind, from every department of government, Executive, Legislative, and Judicial and from every mission of theirs holding office or seeking it, that I entirely discard it...................It has been so impossible to contradict all their lies, that I am determined to contradict none;
for while I should be engage with one, they would publish twenty new ones.


Now add these to the above:
As president Jefferson included a prayer in both of his inaugural addresses.
He signed the bills that appropriated money for chaplains in Congress as well as the armed forces.
In 1803, Jefferson signed the bill that paid for the Kaskaskia Indian's Roman Catholic Church and their priests.
Jefferson advocated that the tax-supported College of William and Mary maintain "a perpetual mission among the Indian tribes" which included the instruction of "the principles of Christianity."


You and the rest of the brain dead liberals take statements he's made about the corruption in the churches, as they've gotten away from the teaching of Christianity, as a condemnation of Christianity itself.

When the t***h is just the opposite.
The criticism was an attempt to get them back to the Gospel, when it was felt that they were going astray.

The purpose of the criticism was to preserve and promote Christianity.

You couldn't get it more wrong if you tried!

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

We need people nowadays just like the founding fathers.

Homestead

No, Jefferson never said he was a deist, he said he was a Christian.
His political enemies of his time accused him of being a deist as a means to discredit him.

Then, as now, there are individuals who are corrupting Christianity and the church.
Jefferson did not hesitate to call them out on it.

What was their reaction, stop their evil ways..........................No!

They accused Jefferson of being everything, but a Christian.

All your doing is repeating the lies of Jefferson's political enemies that wanted to discredit Jefferson.

Today, we not only have his letters and writings, written over his lifetime, but, we also have a lifetime of his actions we can examine.


Try doing your own home work and stop repeating what other people want you to say.