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The Purpose of the Police...is not a police state...
Aug 5, 2016 10:18:32   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
....This liberal way of viewing the problem rests on a misunderstanding of the origins of the police and what they were created to do. The police were not created to protect and serve the population. They were not created to stop crime, at least not as most people understand it. And they were certainly not created to promote justice. They were created to protect the new form of wage-labor capitalism that emerged in the mid to late nineteenth century from the threat posed by that system's offspring, the working class....

...There was never a time when the big city police neutrally enforced "the law," or came anywhere close to that ideal (for that matter, the law itself has never been neutral). In the North, they mostly arrested people for the vaguely defined "crimes" of disorderly conduct and vagrancy throughout the nineteenth century. This meant that the police could arrest anyone they saw as a threat to "order." In the post-bellum South, they enforced w***e s*******y and largely arrested black people on trumped-up charges in order to feed them into convict labor systems....

-Sam Mitrani

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Aug 5, 2016 11:14:20   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
....This liberal way of viewing the problem rests on a misunderstanding of the origins of the police and what they were created to do. The police were not created to protect and serve the population. They were not created to stop crime, at least not as most people understand it. And they were certainly not created to promote justice. They were created to protect the new form of wage-labor capitalism that emerged in the mid to late nineteenth century from the threat posed by that system's offspring, the working class....

...There was never a time when the big city police neutrally enforced "the law," or came anywhere close to that ideal (for that matter, the law itself has never been neutral). In the North, they mostly arrested people for the vaguely defined "crimes" of disorderly conduct and vagrancy throughout the nineteenth century. This meant that the police could arrest anyone they saw as a threat to "order." In the post-bellum South, they enforced w***e s*******y and largely arrested black people on trumped-up charges in order to feed them into convict labor systems....

-Sam Mitrani
....This liberal way of viewing the problem rests ... (show quote)


It is unclear to me why you stated it was about the Liberal View.

It has been clear to me that the police force first line of service is to protect the propertied class.

It seems to me that under the Justice System we have there are some that have to be proven guilty while some are looked ae as being Guilty & need to prove they are not guilty.

Have money you can get out on bail, You may even only need to sign that you will show up when they call. Can't afford bail have some free room & board before your trial.

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Aug 5, 2016 11:25:24   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
It is unclear to me why you stated it was about the Liberal View.

It has been clear to me that the police force first line of service is to protect the propertied class.

It seems to me that under the Justice System we have there are some that have to be proven guilty while some are looked ae as being Guilty & need to prove they are not guilty.


I don't take credit for the wording, you would have to ask the author, who I credit.

Otherwise, you are correct...the police exhibit a disregard for facts and are authors of what the court wants to hear.

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Aug 5, 2016 11:32:25   #
Cicero
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
....This liberal way of viewing the problem rests on a misunderstanding of the origins of the police and what they were created to do. The police were not created to protect and serve the population. They were not created to stop crime, at least not as most people understand it. And they were certainly not created to promote justice. They were created to protect the new form of wage-labor capitalism that emerged in the mid to late nineteenth century from the threat posed by that system's offspring, the working class....

...There was never a time when the big city police neutrally enforced "the law," or came anywhere close to that ideal (for that matter, the law itself has never been neutral). In the North, they mostly arrested people for the vaguely defined "crimes" of disorderly conduct and vagrancy throughout the nineteenth century. This meant that the police could arrest anyone they saw as a threat to "order." In the post-bellum South, they enforced w***e s*******y and largely arrested black people on trumped-up charges in order to feed them into convict labor systems....

-Sam Mitrani
....This liberal way of viewing the problem rests ... (show quote)


Do you stay up all night trying to come up with stupid ideas like this?

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Aug 5, 2016 11:47:22   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Cicero wrote:
Do you stay up all night trying to come up with stupid ideas like this?


Considering the situation we now find of self in it is a fitting issue to look more deeply at.

Having what can be said to be a proper profile I can say that my contact with the police has been quite uneventful.

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Aug 5, 2016 13:38:05   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Cicero wrote:
Do you stay up all night trying to come up with stupid ideas like this?


Do you take hours to say anything to someone you don't know, and who doesn't care whether you think their ideas are stupid or not.

But note, I take no credit for anything, I had the courtesy to not plagiarize and give the author credit for his work.

You must be a pig.

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