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James Carville Says 80% Of Democrats Are Politically Clueless
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James Carville, Democrat political consultant extraordinaire – and former Bill Clinton campaign manager, has astonishingly come out and said what all good Republicans have known for decades: Not only are most Democrats politically clueless; they’re easily manipulated by the puppet masters of their party as well. Wow. James Freaking Carville. Of all people. Here’s an excerpt, as quoted on Amazon.com:

“Ideologies aren’t all that important. What’s important is psychology.

The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.
Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have a clue as to political reality.
What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to v**e any way you want.
The v**er is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.
T***h is relative. T***h is what you can make the v**er believe is the t***h. If you’re smart enough, t***h is what you make the v**er think it is. That’s why I’m a Democrat. I can make the Democratic v**ers think wh**ever I want them to.”

the waker Loc: 11th freest nation

Only 80?
He gives them way too much credit.😉

Glaucon

Fact checks find this quote to be bogus. Does that matter to you?

bahmer

Factcheck.org -- A Fraudulent "Fact Check" Site Funded By Biased Political Group

If you wanted to use a devious method to deceive people who are trying to differentiate between t***h and lies on the Internet how would you do it? If you were extremely devious and had no conscience, you might set up a Web site with some official and unbiased sounding name that claims to be the encyclopedia of t***h to be used as a tool for anyone who has the same biased view and wants to make believe to "back it up" with what they would like you to think is "indisputable fact."

That is exactly what Web sites like factcheck.org are. They are biased, politically motivated propaganda Web sites, manned and funded by biased political organizations who set up the sites for the sole purpose of deviously "backing up" the political arguments of those who hold the same views that they do. It's kind of like you have a friend who is in on your lie, and you use him to back up your story and don't tell anyone else he is your friend.

Just because they use a name that implies unbiased assessments, doesn't mean that they provide them. You can call your Web site anything you want. I can set up a web site called thet***h.org or realfacts.com or stopthelies.org and post any kind of biased political propaganda I want on it. The name means nothing. And in the case of sites like factcheck.org, the name is intentionally misleading and deceptive. But it isn't the only so called "fact check" site that is a fraud. There are others.

Glaucon

Couldn't you just man up, grow a pair and be strong enough to admit you tried to Trump us and you got smoked out of your hiding place? PATHETIC!!!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I checked four fact-checking websites, and all called this quote as falsely attributed to James Carville, while dismissing it as 'unproven.'

In October 2012 the above-referenced quotation in which James Carville purportedly likened the Democratic constituency to "a herd of cows" received wide circulation on the Internet. It appeared to have originated with an unsourced posting to the ThinkExist.com which has been reproduced on a number of other web sites. However, we found no news article, speech, interview transcript, or printed source documenting this statement as one actually made by James Carville, and a representative from his office confirmed that the purported quote was not something Carville himself ever said:

Apparently the quote was falsely posted by an unknown user to a quotations website called thinkexist.com. We have contacted the website and asked them to take the quote down. James Carville never said these words, and this quote in no way belongs to James Carville.

Feel free to distribute my response, so people know the t***h that this quote was 100% falsely attributed to James Carville.

However, with respect to Mr. Bahmer, the 2008 book A Chalice of Miracles by John W. Casperson quotes Carville (without identifying a source) in a remarkably similar vein.

bahmer

Thank you and then may all disregard this quote as false. Sorry.

Glaucon

RESPONSE:

I guess the facts that the quote is bogus and Trump's trophy wife plagiarized shouldn't matter to anyone. Everyone who read the bogus quote had to know it was a bogus quote and that Trump's wife was only doing her less terrible wifely duty and hasn't a clue, isn't paying attention.

Glaucon

Your admission and your apology causes me to apologize to you and retract my nasty comments about you. In fact, I admire your strength and your solid character.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

The response of a gentleman. You, sir, have never presented (to my knowledge) any evidence to the contrary.

Glaucon

YES YES YES!!!!! I disagree with many of your opinions, but I have great respect for your integrity,

bahmer

Thank you and Glaucon for those statements. I don't have a factchecker that I trust and I have never joined any of them because of tended biases on each of them therefore I may occasionally post something from the conservative sites that I do frequent as fact and have assumed that those authors have done the appropriate fact checking for themselves to save their reputations. So I guess that by my assuming I make an ass out of me and them.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

All of us, likely, have made mistakes of a similar nature. As my grandmother used to say: To err is human, to forgive is divine.

Glaucon

AND TO ADMIT ERROR IS COURAGEOUS AND SEPARATES THE WEAK FROM THE STRONG.

Glaucon

Many attacks have been made on Snopes and it has been investigated extensively for bias and error it has survived all of them. However, I question constantly, I particularly questions sources with which I usually agree and I always question my own opinions, motives, and sources. We all have flaws, we all make errors and we are all biased. It is how we manage these flaws, errors, that matter.