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Jul 12, 2016 14:19:56   #
Progressive One
 
New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Cleveland if legal

July 12 (Reuters) - The chairman of the New Black Panther Party, a "black power" movement, said his group will carry arms for self-defense during protests at the Republican convention next week if allowed under Ohio law.

"If it is an open state to carry, we will exercise our second amendment rights because there are other groups threatening to be there that are threatening to do harm to us," Hashim Nzinga, chairman of the New Black Panther Party, told Reuters in an interview.

"If that state allows us to bear arms, the Panthers and the others who can legally bear arms will bear arms."

Nzinga condemned the k*****g of five police officers in Dallas last week as a "massacre" and said his group played no role in the attack.

Officials in Ohio have said it will be legal for protesters to carry weapons at demonstrations outside the convention under the state's "open carry" laws. Several other groups, including some supporters of presumptive Republican p**********l nominee Donald Trump, have said they will carry weapons in protests as well, leading to concerns about rival groups being armed in close proximity.

Nzinga said he expected "a couple hundred" members of the New Black Panther Party to join a black unity protest that is scheduled to be held on Thursday in Cleveland. (Reporting By Ned Parker; Editing by David Rohde and Stuart Grudgings)

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Jul 12, 2016 14:36:10   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Cleveland if legal

July 12 (Reuters) - The chairman of the New Black Panther Party, a "black power" movement, said his group will carry arms for self-defense during protests at the Republican convention next week if allowed under Ohio law.

"If it is an open state to carry, we will exercise our second amendment rights because there are other groups threatening to be there that are threatening to do harm to us," Hashim Nzinga, chairman of the New Black Panther Party, told Reuters in an interview.

"If that state allows us to bear arms, the Panthers and the others who can legally bear arms will bear arms."

Nzinga condemned the k*****g of five police officers in Dallas last week as a "massacre" and said his group played no role in the attack.

Officials in Ohio have said it will be legal for protesters to carry weapons at demonstrations outside the convention under the state's "open carry" laws. Several other groups, including some supporters of presumptive Republican p**********l nominee Donald Trump, have said they will carry weapons in protests as well, leading to concerns about rival groups being armed in close proximity.

Nzinga said he expected "a couple hundred" members of the New Black Panther Party to join a black unity protest that is scheduled to be held on Thursday in Cleveland. (Reporting By Ned Parker; Editing by David Rohde and Stuart Grudgings)
New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Clev... (show quote)
( much like in Philly



So more or less, they're going to Cleveland armed, looking for trouble.
Does anyone find this kind of behavior expectable?
Considering they really have no business being there, other than to start trouble, if even one occurrence happens, they should be deemed a terrorist group, as they are trying to instill fear against others just like they did in Philly during the e******ns w/ baseball bats.
Quite the d********g display of v**er intimidation.
Never the less, I have a feeling if the Panthers go to Ohio looking for trouble, they might get neutered.

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Jul 12, 2016 14:40:37   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
the waker wrote:
( much like in Philly



So more or less, they're going to Cleveland armed, looking for trouble.
Does anyone find this kind of behavior expectable?
Considering they really have no business being there, other than to start trouble, if even one occurrence happens, they should be deemed a terrorist group, as they are trying to instill fear against others just like they did in Philly during the e******ns w/ baseball bats.
Quite the d********g display of v**er intimidation.
Never the less, I have a feeling if the Panthers go to Ohio looking for trouble, they might get neutered.
( much like in Philly br br br br So more or l... (show quote)

If only the Panthers and neo n**i groups could run into each other. Give em all extra ammo and let have at it.

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Jul 12, 2016 14:41:06   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Cleveland if legal

July 12 (Reuters) - The chairman of the New Black Panther Party, a "black power" movement, said his group will carry arms for self-defense during protests at the Republican convention next week if allowed under Ohio law.

"If it is an open state to carry, we will exercise our second amendment rights because there are other groups threatening to be there that are threatening to do harm to us," Hashim Nzinga, chairman of the New Black Panther Party, told Reuters in an interview.

"If that state allows us to bear arms, the Panthers and the others who can legally bear arms will bear arms."

Nzinga condemned the k*****g of five police officers in Dallas last week as a "massacre" and said his group played no role in the attack.

Officials in Ohio have said it will be legal for protesters to carry weapons at demonstrations outside the convention under the state's "open carry" laws. Several other groups, including some supporters of presumptive Republican p**********l nominee Donald Trump, have said they will carry weapons in protests as well, leading to concerns about rival groups being armed in close proximity.

Nzinga said he expected "a couple hundred" members of the New Black Panther Party to join a black unity protest that is scheduled to be held on Thursday in Cleveland. (Reporting By Ned Parker; Editing by David Rohde and Stuart Grudgings)
New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Clev... (show quote)


All individuals going to Ohio, white or black, pro Trump or anti-Trump, must remember that if they are armed, and are acting aggressively toward police or other civilians, or armed near someone seemingly aggressive, they are subject to being shot by those police who are charged with protecting the people of Ohio. It won't be rubber bullets or teargas either, but lead bullets.

I'm a legal gun owner, and I can legally carry a firearm in every state of the US, but unless I was only a distant observer, and certainly not a protestor nor anywhere near the protestors, would I have a gun on my person where some fool on either side could start a shootout with the police. If you're laying on the ground assuming ambient air temperature, near a r**t, and have a gun on your body, no one is going to question why you are dead, or if your death was justified.

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Jul 12, 2016 14:51:30   #
Progressive One
 
the waker wrote:
( much like in Philly



So more or less, they're going to Cleveland armed, looking for trouble.
Does anyone find this kind of behavior expectable?
Considering they really have no business being there, other than to start trouble, if even one occurrence happens, they should be deemed a terrorist group, as they are trying to instill fear against others just like they did in Philly during the e******ns w/ baseball bats.
Quite the d********g display of v**er intimidation.
Never the less, I have a feeling if the Panthers go to Ohio looking for trouble, they might get neutered.
( much like in Philly br br br br So more or l... (show quote)


Nah....2nd amendment rights are the thing...the thing you people claim Obama is always trying to take away. Now if you righties carry weapons around others to intimidate, then it is only rightfully so that you will be intimidated. Karma is a b***h.......and you don't even marry it............who are you to say where someone does not belong. B****s no longer "know their place"...that went out in the 60's...get used to it...........

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Jul 12, 2016 14:55:46   #
Progressive One
 
Trooper745 wrote:
All individuals going to Ohio, white or black, pro Trump or anti-Trump, must remember that if they are armed, and are acting aggressively toward police or other civilians, or armed near someone seemingly aggressive, they are subject to being shot by those police who are charged with protecting the people of Ohio. It won't be rubber bullets or teargas either, but lead bullets.

I'm a legal gun owner, and I can legally carry a firearm in every state of the US, but unless I was only a distant observer, and certainly not a protestor nor anywhere near the protestors, would I have a gun on my person where some fool on either side could start a shootout with the police. If you're laying on the ground assuming ambient air temperature, near a r**t, and have a gun on your body, no one is going to question why you are dead, or if your death was justified.
All individuals going to Ohio, white or black, pro... (show quote)


what is considered acting aggressive? possession? that alone tend to get black men k**led so that is why we are where we are. I'm sure no one is scared to die so that is why they embark upon these journey's...a true patriot is willing to die for what they believe in and that is what America is starting to witness. Even a small dog will try to bite your ass if you kick the s**t out of it so many times.

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Jul 12, 2016 14:56:04   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
Nah....2nd amendment rights are the thing...the thing you people claim Obama is always trying to take away. Now if you righties carry weapons around others to intimidate, then it is only rightfully so that you will be intimidated. Karma is a b***h.......and you don't even marry it............who are you to say where someone does not belong. B****s no longer "know their place"...that went out in the 60's...get used to it...........



Doesn't have anything to do w/ rights.
Has to do w/ them going there to simply start trouble.
Are right wing extremist groups going to Philly on the premise to start trouble?
As far as knowing your place, in this day and age it's just in your head, grow up.

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Jul 12, 2016 14:58:53   #
Progressive One
 
the waker wrote:
Doesn't have anything to do w/ rights.
Has to do w/ them going there to simply start trouble.
Are right wing extremist groups going to Philly on the premise to start trouble?
As far as knowing your place, in this day and age it's just in your head, grow up.


if they do not START trouble then that means they were not looking for any....fuck a premise...they are exercising their rights as Americans...got a problem with that? If they were, you will know it immediately and they and you know as men, there are always consequences for your actions......

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Jul 12, 2016 15:01:50   #
Progressive One
 
the waker wrote:
Doesn't have anything to do w/ rights.
Has to do w/ them going there to simply start trouble.
Are right wing extremist groups going to Philly on the premise to start trouble?
As far as knowing your place, in this day and age it's just in your head, grow up.


My place is wherever I can f-cking legally stand without bothering anyone specifically through interaction with them. That is being a grownup and not a BOY as r****ts so fondly love to refer to black MEN...just like in OPP.

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Jul 12, 2016 15:05:22   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
if they do not START trouble then that means they were not looking for any....fuck a premise...they are exercising their rights as Americans...got a problem with that? If they were, you will know it immediately and they and you know as men, there are always consequences for your actions......


At a Republican conference? Do they have anything to do w/ that party? No.
So really it has absolutely nothing to do w/ them.
As soon as they start trouble, get they're ass whipped, then they'll cry r****m.
So yes, you will see your consequences, hope you likem

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Jul 12, 2016 15:07:59   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
My place is wherever I can f-cking legally stand without bothering anyone specifically through interaction with them. That is being a grownup and not a BOY as r****ts so fondly love to refer to black MEN...just like in OPP.




True,
I do recommend not bothering anyone then.

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Jul 12, 2016 15:08:55   #
PeterS
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Cleveland if legal

July 12 (Reuters) - The chairman of the New Black Panther Party, a "black power" movement, said his group will carry arms for self-defense during protests at the Republican convention next week if allowed under Ohio law.

"If it is an open state to carry, we will exercise our second amendment rights because there are other groups threatening to be there that are threatening to do harm to us," Hashim Nzinga, chairman of the New Black Panther Party, told Reuters in an interview.

"If that state allows us to bear arms, the Panthers and the others who can legally bear arms will bear arms."

Nzinga condemned the k*****g of five police officers in Dallas last week as a "massacre" and said his group played no role in the attack.

Officials in Ohio have said it will be legal for protesters to carry weapons at demonstrations outside the convention under the state's "open carry" laws. Several other groups, including some supporters of presumptive Republican p**********l nominee Donald Trump, have said they will carry weapons in protests as well, leading to concerns about rival groups being armed in close proximity.

Nzinga said he expected "a couple hundred" members of the New Black Panther Party to join a black unity protest that is scheduled to be held on Thursday in Cleveland. (Reporting By Ned Parker; Editing by David Rohde and Stuart Grudgings)
New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Clev... (show quote)


Hey, Trump wants everyone to carry so I don't see what the problem would be. There are dangerous people out there and you never know when one of them's going to go off--we need guns for our safety. If everyone carried we all would be so afraid of each other to do anything wrong!!!

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Jul 12, 2016 15:16:43   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
what is considered acting aggressive? possession? that alone tend to get black men k**led so that is why we are where we are. I'm sure no one is scared to die so that is why they embark upon these journey's...a true patriot is willing to die for what they believe in and that is what America is starting to witness. Even a small dog will try to bite your ass if you kick the s**t out of it so many times.


Those members of the New Black Panthers going to Cleveland are no more related to patriots than a bunch of KKK members showing up at a Obama Muslim Prayer Meeting with guns and rope.

The armed Black Panther members are trouble makers wishing to intimidate people, and hopefully disrupt a peaceful political meeting.

They are going to Cleveland armed and wanting trouble, but they might get far more trouble than they bargained for, especially if some fool throws a few rounds toward the police. As far as whether or not they are scared to die, unless you've been on the receiving end of live fired ammo, you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Jul 12, 2016 15:29:04   #
Progressive One
 
PeterS wrote:
Hey, Trump wants everyone to carry so I don't see what the problem would be. There are dangerous people out there and you never know when one of them's going to go off--we need guns for our safety. If everyone carried we all would be so afraid of each other to do anything wrong!!!


Yep....as a Texan...and a civil, scholarly one...I understand the concept that an armed society is a polite society...look up the "deterrent effect"..and it talks about how many get to be unarmed because they jhave checks and balances around them. It is like when I'm in Texas around my good friends...I carry my heat in the trunk but know I don't really need it.

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Jul 12, 2016 16:03:22   #
Kevyn
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Cleveland if legal

July 12 (Reuters) - The chairman of the New Black Panther Party, a "black power" movement, said his group will carry arms for self-defense during protests at the Republican convention next week if allowed under Ohio law.

"If it is an open state to carry, we will exercise our second amendment rights because there are other groups threatening to be there that are threatening to do harm to us," Hashim Nzinga, chairman of the New Black Panther Party, told Reuters in an interview.

"If that state allows us to bear arms, the Panthers and the others who can legally bear arms will bear arms."

Nzinga condemned the k*****g of five police officers in Dallas last week as a "massacre" and said his group played no role in the attack.

Officials in Ohio have said it will be legal for protesters to carry weapons at demonstrations outside the convention under the state's "open carry" laws. Several other groups, including some supporters of presumptive Republican p**********l nominee Donald Trump, have said they will carry weapons in protests as well, leading to concerns about rival groups being armed in close proximity.

Nzinga said he expected "a couple hundred" members of the New Black Panther Party to join a black unity protest that is scheduled to be held on Thursday in Cleveland. (Reporting By Ned Parker; Editing by David Rohde and Stuart Grudgings)
New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Clev... (show quote)
This is right in line with Republican dogma, well armed patriots exercising their second amendment rights. For wh**ever reason right wing nutters have had and are now realizing a long held dream of turning our entire nation into a big armed camp. To what end is the question? If it is to enhance safety as many claim why not carry a fire extinguisher, portable defibrillator or fanny pack first aid kit. The t***h is that for most of them carrying guns is nothing but store bought machismo for insecure failures and has little with any real need to defend themselves. A well armed society is not polite, it is paranoid dysfunctional and often deadly.

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