The Meaning of the Word Gentile as Used in Scripture
Jul 12, 2016 07:12:46 #
The Meaning of the Word Gentile as Used in Scripture
A Study into the Meaning of the Word Gentile as Used in Scripture
http://www.sheldonemrylibrary.com/Gentile%20-%20Ewing.pdf
http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/Documents/Thewordgentile.html
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A few years ago this writer was in the home of a friend, and as I looked over her books I saw that she had one of these large dictionaries that are usually found only in public libraries. I said to her, "May I use your dictionary?" I knew that she had always been interested in the correct use of words, so I thought that this would be a good way to start a conversation regarding our identity with Israel. I turned the pages to find the word "gentile". Immediately the lady asked, "What is the word you are looking for?" I replied, "I am looking up the word 'gentile.'" Then she wanted to know what the dictionary had to say. I gave it to help her understand that if the dictionary was correct she couldn't possibly be a gentile, which she had always claimed to be. Then I read her this definition. "A gentile is a pagan or a heathen or some one who is not a Yahudi or a Christian." "Now," I said, "since you are a Christian you cannot possibly be a gentile". She was rather startled at what I told her. Then I went into the meaning of the same words as used in the Bible, and you may be assured that before I was through she had many of her long-established ideas upset.
A great deal of confusion and misunderstanding has been caused by the use of the word "gentile" in the English translation of the Bible. Let us take up a brief study of it. It should always be remembered that foreign languages often lose the strength of their meaning through translation. Then it should also be remembered that some words have many meanings.
Take the word man as an illustration. Generically speaking it means mankind generally, both men and women. But if it is used in the same sentence with the word woman, it means the male of the species. If it is used in the same sentence with the word boy it means the mature of the species. Thus the word man has three meanings, the meaning of the word being determined by its use in the context.
Now the word gentile is a translation of the Hebrew word goi (singular) and goyim (plural) and the Greek word ethnos (singular) and ethne (plural). Using the word gentile to translate these words is often misleading because it is a misapplication of the Hebrew and Greek words as used in the Bible. The modern use of the word has come to mean non-Yahudi or non-Israel, but that meaning cannot be maintained in the face of the evidence I will present in this study.
The Hebrew word goi is a collective noun meaning nation or sometimes a collective body of people. But it has been translated into English may different ways. The word occurs 557 times in the Old Testament. The Authorized Version of the Bible translates it gentile 30 times; heathen 142 times; nation 373 times; people 11 times; another once. But the American Standard Version cuts the occurrence of gentile from 30 to 9 times, and then shows in the footnotes of 5 of those 9 times that the word nations should have been used.
Of course the word nation is not always an exact equivalent term because there is too much of the political significance attached to it. But it is much better than the word gentile and some of our best translators prefer the word nations. This is also shown by the way the Revised Version eliminates the word gentiles.
The same thing is true of the Greek word ethnos. It occurs 164 times in the New Testament. In the Authorized Version it is translated gentiles 93 times; heathen 5 times; nation or nations 64 times; and people twice. In the American Standard Revised Version it is gentiles 96 times in the text and 7 times in the footnotes, making 103 occurrences altogether. But in the footnotes it is corrected 15 times to read nations, making the final count 88. So not only the Hebrew word goi but also the Greek word ethnos has been translated to read nations more than any other word.
Though the word gentiles and the word heathen are used many times in the Bible, we must face the facts that there are no Hebrew or Greek words that would demand this translation.
If the reader will consult a good dictionary, you will find that the word gentile is derived from the Latin word gentilis and properly understood means non-something. As used by a Yahudi or an Israelite it would mean non-Yahudim or non-Israelite. But they are not the only people who have a right to use the word.
For instance, suppose a Buddhist priest spoke Latin and he wanted to refer to the nations that were not Buddhist, he could call them gentilis. In Hebrew and Greek, there is not an exact equivalent to the Latin word gentilis or the English word gentile, nevertheless, if this same priest spoke Hebrew and Greek along with his Latin and wanted to refer to the nations that were not Buddhist, he would call them goyim if speaking Hebrew and ethne if speaking Greek and each time he would naturally include the Yahudim and Israelite people. Likewise a Moslem priest could use the three languages and refer to the Yahudim and Israelites as gentilis, goyim and ethne.
One important thing to always keep in mind is that goi and ethnos are collective nouns and cannot properly be translated to mean an individual person. They always refer to a group. There is no such thing as A GENTILE; it is always plural. Gentiles in its plural sense may at times be used to translate goi and ethnos but its use gives an added thought not intended in the original word which cannot in every case be justified.
Another important word found in the Hebrew text, which needs only passing notice is the Hebrew word "am" and is found many times in the Old Testament text. It is translated nation 17 times. It is usually translated people, for it occurs that way 1,835 times in our English text. Occasionally it is qualified by the phrase "every people", but when it is rendered "the people" it usually means Israel. But this is not the word that has been the source of misunderstanding. Translations of the Hebrew word goi and the Greek word ethnos have caused the trouble.
The Hebrew word goi and the Greek word ethnos in their singular and plural forms are used three ways in the Bible:
1.In referring to the Israelite and Yahudim people, let us note the verses which follow below found in the Old Testament and New Testament which refer either to Israel or the Yahudi as a nation and use the Hebrew word goi and the Greek word ethnos. To demonstrate the absurdity of always translating the word goi or ethnos as gentile we suggest that you read the following verses substituting the word gentile or heathen, for nation or nations:
Gen. 12:2-"I will make of thee a great nation."
Gen. 17:4,5-"A father of many nations have I made thee."
Gen. 20:4-"Lord, wilt thou slay a righteous nation?" (heathen).
Gen. 25:23-"Two nations are in thy womb." (Try the word heathen or gentile in that verse).
Gen. 35:11-"A nation and a company of nations"
Gen. 48:19-"Thy seed shall become a multitude of nations."
Isa. 1:4-"Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity."
Isa. 10:6-"Send him against an hypocritical nation."
Jer. 31:36-"Shall cease from being a nation before me."
Luke 7:5-"He loveth our nation and hath built us a synagogue."
John 11:48-"The Romans will come and take our place and nation."
John 11:50-"That one man should die for the people and that the whole nation perish not."
Acts 24:2-"Worthy deeds are done unto this nation by the providence."
Acts 24:17-"I came to bring alm to my nation."
From the foregoing verses and many others that could be given, it can easily be seen that the Hebrew word goi and the Greek word ethnos do not always refer to non-Israel people.
2.Now let us read a few verses where the same words are used and, as can be seen, refer very definitely to non-Israel people.
Gen. 14:9-"With Chedorlaomer the king of Elam, and with the Tidal king of nations."
Gen. 21:13-"And also the son of the bond woman will I make a nation."
Gen. 21:18-"For I will make of him a great nation."
Ex. 9:24-"There was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation."
Ex. 34:24-"For I will cast out the nations before thee."
Isa. 37:12-"Have the gods of the nations delivered them which my fathers have destroyed?"
Matt. 10:5-"Go not in the way of the gentiles."
Matt. 24:7-"For nation shall rise against nation."
Luke 21:24-
"They shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations."
Acts 7:7-"And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God."
Acts 8:9-"But there was a certain man called Simon which before time in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched all the people of Samaria."
Acts 10:45-"Because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gifts of the Holy Ghost."
In the above verses three words have been used to translate the same Greek word ethnos, and they are nations, gentiles, and people.
3.Now we come to the third way in which the words have been used, and that is to describe all the nations, which of course, always includes Israel and non-Israel nations.
Gen.22: 18-"And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed."
Gen. 25:23-"Two nations are in thy womb."
I Chron. 16:23,24-"Declare his glory among the heathen....his marvelous works among the nations."
Psa. 9:19,20-"Let the heathen be judged in thy sight. Put them in fear, oh Lord: that the nations may know themselves to be but men."
Note the last two verses have used the two words heathen and nations to translate the same word in one passage.
Matt. 24:9,14-".....and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake." "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached for a witness to all nations."
Matt. 28:19-"Go ye therefore and teach all nations."
Acts 10:35-"But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him."
Attention should also be called to another Greek word erroneously translated gentiles. The word is Hellen and means Greeks or speaking people. It is used 27 times in the New Testament. In 20 places it is properly…….
To summarize: the word gentile is derived from the Latin word gentilis and is only one of several words that are used to translate the Hebrew word goi and the Greek word ethnos into English. The best word to use is nations. It would have been better if the word gentile had never appeared in the English text. Neither goi nor ethnos necessarily mean non-Israel, as has been shown above.
Curtis Clair Ewing
A Study into the Meaning of the Word Gentile as Used in Scripture
http://www.sheldonemrylibrary.com/Gentile%20-%20Ewing.pdf
http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/Documents/Thewordgentile.html
________________________________________
A few years ago this writer was in the home of a friend, and as I looked over her books I saw that she had one of these large dictionaries that are usually found only in public libraries. I said to her, "May I use your dictionary?" I knew that she had always been interested in the correct use of words, so I thought that this would be a good way to start a conversation regarding our identity with Israel. I turned the pages to find the word "gentile". Immediately the lady asked, "What is the word you are looking for?" I replied, "I am looking up the word 'gentile.'" Then she wanted to know what the dictionary had to say. I gave it to help her understand that if the dictionary was correct she couldn't possibly be a gentile, which she had always claimed to be. Then I read her this definition. "A gentile is a pagan or a heathen or some one who is not a Yahudi or a Christian." "Now," I said, "since you are a Christian you cannot possibly be a gentile". She was rather startled at what I told her. Then I went into the meaning of the same words as used in the Bible, and you may be assured that before I was through she had many of her long-established ideas upset.
A great deal of confusion and misunderstanding has been caused by the use of the word "gentile" in the English translation of the Bible. Let us take up a brief study of it. It should always be remembered that foreign languages often lose the strength of their meaning through translation. Then it should also be remembered that some words have many meanings.
Take the word man as an illustration. Generically speaking it means mankind generally, both men and women. But if it is used in the same sentence with the word woman, it means the male of the species. If it is used in the same sentence with the word boy it means the mature of the species. Thus the word man has three meanings, the meaning of the word being determined by its use in the context.
Now the word gentile is a translation of the Hebrew word goi (singular) and goyim (plural) and the Greek word ethnos (singular) and ethne (plural). Using the word gentile to translate these words is often misleading because it is a misapplication of the Hebrew and Greek words as used in the Bible. The modern use of the word has come to mean non-Yahudi or non-Israel, but that meaning cannot be maintained in the face of the evidence I will present in this study.
The Hebrew word goi is a collective noun meaning nation or sometimes a collective body of people. But it has been translated into English may different ways. The word occurs 557 times in the Old Testament. The Authorized Version of the Bible translates it gentile 30 times; heathen 142 times; nation 373 times; people 11 times; another once. But the American Standard Version cuts the occurrence of gentile from 30 to 9 times, and then shows in the footnotes of 5 of those 9 times that the word nations should have been used.
Of course the word nation is not always an exact equivalent term because there is too much of the political significance attached to it. But it is much better than the word gentile and some of our best translators prefer the word nations. This is also shown by the way the Revised Version eliminates the word gentiles.
The same thing is true of the Greek word ethnos. It occurs 164 times in the New Testament. In the Authorized Version it is translated gentiles 93 times; heathen 5 times; nation or nations 64 times; and people twice. In the American Standard Revised Version it is gentiles 96 times in the text and 7 times in the footnotes, making 103 occurrences altogether. But in the footnotes it is corrected 15 times to read nations, making the final count 88. So not only the Hebrew word goi but also the Greek word ethnos has been translated to read nations more than any other word.
Though the word gentiles and the word heathen are used many times in the Bible, we must face the facts that there are no Hebrew or Greek words that would demand this translation.
If the reader will consult a good dictionary, you will find that the word gentile is derived from the Latin word gentilis and properly understood means non-something. As used by a Yahudi or an Israelite it would mean non-Yahudim or non-Israelite. But they are not the only people who have a right to use the word.
For instance, suppose a Buddhist priest spoke Latin and he wanted to refer to the nations that were not Buddhist, he could call them gentilis. In Hebrew and Greek, there is not an exact equivalent to the Latin word gentilis or the English word gentile, nevertheless, if this same priest spoke Hebrew and Greek along with his Latin and wanted to refer to the nations that were not Buddhist, he would call them goyim if speaking Hebrew and ethne if speaking Greek and each time he would naturally include the Yahudim and Israelite people. Likewise a Moslem priest could use the three languages and refer to the Yahudim and Israelites as gentilis, goyim and ethne.
One important thing to always keep in mind is that goi and ethnos are collective nouns and cannot properly be translated to mean an individual person. They always refer to a group. There is no such thing as A GENTILE; it is always plural. Gentiles in its plural sense may at times be used to translate goi and ethnos but its use gives an added thought not intended in the original word which cannot in every case be justified.
Another important word found in the Hebrew text, which needs only passing notice is the Hebrew word "am" and is found many times in the Old Testament text. It is translated nation 17 times. It is usually translated people, for it occurs that way 1,835 times in our English text. Occasionally it is qualified by the phrase "every people", but when it is rendered "the people" it usually means Israel. But this is not the word that has been the source of misunderstanding. Translations of the Hebrew word goi and the Greek word ethnos have caused the trouble.
The Hebrew word goi and the Greek word ethnos in their singular and plural forms are used three ways in the Bible:
1.In referring to the Israelite and Yahudim people, let us note the verses which follow below found in the Old Testament and New Testament which refer either to Israel or the Yahudi as a nation and use the Hebrew word goi and the Greek word ethnos. To demonstrate the absurdity of always translating the word goi or ethnos as gentile we suggest that you read the following verses substituting the word gentile or heathen, for nation or nations:
Gen. 12:2-"I will make of thee a great nation."
Gen. 17:4,5-"A father of many nations have I made thee."
Gen. 20:4-"Lord, wilt thou slay a righteous nation?" (heathen).
Gen. 25:23-"Two nations are in thy womb." (Try the word heathen or gentile in that verse).
Gen. 35:11-"A nation and a company of nations"
Gen. 48:19-"Thy seed shall become a multitude of nations."
Isa. 1:4-"Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity."
Isa. 10:6-"Send him against an hypocritical nation."
Jer. 31:36-"Shall cease from being a nation before me."
Luke 7:5-"He loveth our nation and hath built us a synagogue."
John 11:48-"The Romans will come and take our place and nation."
John 11:50-"That one man should die for the people and that the whole nation perish not."
Acts 24:2-"Worthy deeds are done unto this nation by the providence."
Acts 24:17-"I came to bring alm to my nation."
From the foregoing verses and many others that could be given, it can easily be seen that the Hebrew word goi and the Greek word ethnos do not always refer to non-Israel people.
2.Now let us read a few verses where the same words are used and, as can be seen, refer very definitely to non-Israel people.
Gen. 14:9-"With Chedorlaomer the king of Elam, and with the Tidal king of nations."
Gen. 21:13-"And also the son of the bond woman will I make a nation."
Gen. 21:18-"For I will make of him a great nation."
Ex. 9:24-"There was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation."
Ex. 34:24-"For I will cast out the nations before thee."
Isa. 37:12-"Have the gods of the nations delivered them which my fathers have destroyed?"
Matt. 10:5-"Go not in the way of the gentiles."
Matt. 24:7-"For nation shall rise against nation."
Luke 21:24-
"They shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations."
Acts 7:7-"And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God."
Acts 8:9-"But there was a certain man called Simon which before time in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched all the people of Samaria."
Acts 10:45-"Because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gifts of the Holy Ghost."
In the above verses three words have been used to translate the same Greek word ethnos, and they are nations, gentiles, and people.
3.Now we come to the third way in which the words have been used, and that is to describe all the nations, which of course, always includes Israel and non-Israel nations.
Gen.22: 18-"And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed."
Gen. 25:23-"Two nations are in thy womb."
I Chron. 16:23,24-"Declare his glory among the heathen....his marvelous works among the nations."
Psa. 9:19,20-"Let the heathen be judged in thy sight. Put them in fear, oh Lord: that the nations may know themselves to be but men."
Note the last two verses have used the two words heathen and nations to translate the same word in one passage.
Matt. 24:9,14-".....and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake." "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached for a witness to all nations."
Matt. 28:19-"Go ye therefore and teach all nations."
Acts 10:35-"But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him."
Attention should also be called to another Greek word erroneously translated gentiles. The word is Hellen and means Greeks or speaking people. It is used 27 times in the New Testament. In 20 places it is properly…….
To summarize: the word gentile is derived from the Latin word gentilis and is only one of several words that are used to translate the Hebrew word goi and the Greek word ethnos into English. The best word to use is nations. It would have been better if the word gentile had never appeared in the English text. Neither goi nor ethnos necessarily mean non-Israel, as has been shown above.
Curtis Clair Ewing
Jul 19, 2016 00:05:58 #
Looks ok, doesn't seem you missed the mark on translations. How about checking on ami and lo-ami. My people and not my people, God knows his own. Just saying.
Jul 19, 2016 07:18:51 #
iFrank wrote:
Looks ok, doesn't seem you missed the mark on translations. How about checking on ami and lo-ami. My people and not my people, God knows his own. Just saying.
Good point Frank. Could you show a couple scriptures?
The ones about the disciplines were to go seek the "lost sheep of Israel"
There is a scripture about Christians not knowing who they are.
Something the fundamentalist churches have done a good job in hiding or misdirecting.
Jul 19, 2016 09:25:49 #
eagleye13 wrote:
Good point Frank. Could you show a couple scriptures?
The ones about the disciplines were to go seek the "lost sheep of Israel"
There is a scripture about Christians not knowing who they are.
Something the fundamentalist churches have done a good job in hiding or misdirecting.
The ones about the disciplines were to go seek the "lost sheep of Israel"
There is a scripture about Christians not knowing who they are.
Something the fundamentalist churches have done a good job in hiding or misdirecting.
Jer 50:6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have cause them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their resting place. ( the mountains is where they were seduced in worshipping idols like Easter, holloween, and other holidays that don't focus on God. In Eze 37 it tells us about the dry bones of the children of Israel, that some have gone astray. Think God.
Jul 19, 2016 09:33:02 #
I have always liked Hosea 4:6. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge
Many Proverbs; Where there is no vision, the people perish.
Looks like we are nearing the end of the trail in this age.
Oh well.
Many Proverbs; Where there is no vision, the people perish.
Looks like we are nearing the end of the trail in this age.
Oh well.
iFrank wrote:
Jer 50:6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have cause them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their resting place. ( the mountains is where they were seduced in worshipping idols like Easter, holloween, and other holidays that don't focus on God. In Eze 37 it tells us about the dry bones of the children of Israel, that some have gone astray. Think God.
Jul 19, 2016 11:09:05 #
eagleye13 wrote:
I have always liked Hosea 4:6. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge
Many Proverbs; Where there is no vision, the people perish.
Looks like we are nearing the end of the trail in this age.
Oh well.
Many Proverbs; Where there is no vision, the people perish.
Looks like we are nearing the end of the trail in this age.
Oh well.
Speaking of ages, in Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in thy belly "I knew thee; and before thou came at forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations". Many people will go to God not knowing the promise He made to us, in Isa 43:26 He says "Put Me in remembrance: let us plead together; declare thou, that thou mayest be justified". In that day when Our Lord arrives many will say mountain fall on us, because they didn't go the extra mile to study in depth, His letter to us= the bible. But I see that you are studied In his Word, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:15. There is more written about Heaven than hell. In Isa 5:13 therefore My people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge;...v14 therefore hell has enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it. Weeping and wailing and knashing of teeth, poor people because basically theyre good, but no one goes to the Father but by Christ.
Jul 19, 2016 11:18:09 #
More good scriptures to ponder Frank.
A am lazy today. Where is the scripture that states His people would not know who they are (consider themselves "Gentiles"), but would be called the Sons of the living God?
A am lazy today. Where is the scripture that states His people would not know who they are (consider themselves "Gentiles"), but would be called the Sons of the living God?
iFrank wrote:
Speaking of ages, in Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee ... (show quote)
Jul 19, 2016 11:35:47 #
eagleye13 wrote:
More good scriptures to ponder Frank.
A am lazy today. Where is the scripture that states His people would not know who they are (consider themselves "Gentiles"), but would be called the Sons of the living God?
A am lazy today. Where is the scripture that states His people would not know who they are (consider themselves "Gentiles"), but would be called the Sons of the living God?
Sons of the Living God, I think we're all son of God, That pretty Vague, I'll search in the concordance but even then it might be a difficult to track that one down. Give me some time. Let me ask why are you looking for that particular verse. Just asking.
Jul 19, 2016 11:40:48 #
iFrank wrote:
Sons of the Living God, I think we're all son of God, That pretty Vague, I'll search in the concordance but even then it might be a difficult to track that one down. Give me some time. Let me ask why are you looking for that particular verse. Just asking.
It is an eye opening scripture, to the condition of most Christians today.
Jul 19, 2016 12:00:44 #
eagleye13 wrote:
It is an eye opening scripture, to the condition of most Christians today.
To the degradation of most so called believers, the one who strengthen the hands of the lawless. Most are asleep so the won't be held accountable by God, for their own good and to the fulfilling of scripture so the evil one can hang themselves. A lot of stealing and backbiting, and doing of bad things.
Jul 19, 2016 12:16:42 #
iFrank wrote:
To the degradation of most so called believers, the one who strengthen the hands of the lawless. Most are asleep so the won't be held accountable by God, for their own good and to the fulfilling of scripture so the evil one can hang themselves. A lot of stealing and backbiting, and doing of bad things.
FYI; located this dialog in my archives:
In the case of the Talmudic disbelieving Jews, and the misdirected Christians who refuse to believe; who say that "the Jews" are all of the House of Israel. The Scripture in Hosea 1:6-7, where it mentions the House of Israel, the House of Joseph, the 10 tribes, as not having mercy from Yahweh but taken and hid away out of His sight for a while until the end times, v6, but that Yahweh decides that He will have mercy upon Judah, the other 2 tribes, and will not take them away at that time out of Palestine, and will save them supernaturally by Yahweh their Elohim and NOT by the arm of their flesh of the sword, by battle, by horses, or by horsemen. So much for the Talmudic Jews of today, and their nonsense that the 10 tribes of the House of Israel were united with the 2 tribes of the House of Judah. Those who claim they all became "the Jews" in ancient times, consisting of all of the Children of Israel/Jacob and of all of the 12/13 tribes together. Way back then, whenever or however, doesn't matter what they, these self-professed Jewish rabbis or so-called "experts" say or postulate. It hasn't happened yet, not until Yahweh fulfills Ezekiel 37 and reunites the Stick of Joseph/House of Israel with the Stick of Judah and they become one nation again of all 12/13 tribes together. Yahweh first has to take those of the 10 "lost" (Yahweh knows where they all are even if we don't) tribes of the House of Israel/Joseph that He put away in the former times in Hosea 1:6, verse 6, and that became the "Sons of the Living El (God)", or the "ha-goyim/gentiles/the nations" now known as the Christians, Hosea 1:10, verse 10, and then put them back together in the end times with those remnants of the House of Judah of the 2 tribes mentioned in Hosea 1:7, verse 7, of whom their descendants are or must become saved in the end times, verse 7 AND verse 11, by the hand of Yahweh their Elohim (i.e., become believers or "Christians", in Yahshua Ha-Mashiyach, the Christ and Savior of all mankind).
Hosea 10:11, verse 11, "Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.",
also refutes the nonsense of all these Talmudic Jewish "intellectual" types, and misdirected Christian churches, who say that the 2 sticks of the House of Joseph and of the House of Judah in Ezekiel 37 were already re-united in the past ancient times. For Hosea 1:10, verse 10 clearly shows the context that the reunion does not, and cannot happen until when Yahweh takes the blindness off the eyes of the 10 tribes of Christian Israelites, "sons of the Living El (God)" and they come to realize and know that they are physical descendants of the ancient 10 tribed Israelites, as well. And that the children of Judah of the 2 tribes also repent and come to believe in Yahshua Ha-Mashiyach, the anointed One and the Christ. Otherwise these scoffing disbelieving Talmudic Jewish intellectual types, we are dealing with; will be cast down into the pit by Yahweh and be burnt up, whether they are of Judah or not, regardless of what they think, or think they know.
The children of Israel (the individuals of all 12/13 tribes of Israel) are NOT the same in the Scriptures as the House of Israel (the 10-tribes entity and nation of the Stick/House of Joseph), the birthright stick held jointly and in leadership and headship by Manasseh and Ephraim over the other 8/9 tribes in Joseph's House. There is a big difference between the two terms Scripturally. The student of Scripture needs to learn the distinction that Yahweh makes here, and the difference in meaning of the terminology. The scriptures do precisely describe these things, and the relationship between the different components of His people.
Jul 19, 2016 13:25:52 #
eagleye13 wrote:
FYI; located this dialog in my archives: br br In... (show quote)
I Love it, thanks, I be chewing on this for a while. Let's see what we can learn.
Jul 19, 2016 17:49:30 #
I hope you get something out of it a lot to digest for sure.
iFrank wrote:
I Love it, thanks, I be chewing on this for a while. Let's see what we can learn.
Jul 19, 2016 18:02:39 #
eagleye13 wrote:
I hope you get something out of it a lot to digest for sure.
I actually enjoy studying the bible, people get discouraged because they don't pray before studying and don't have reference material to aid them. Thanks again.
Jul 25, 2016 08:48:57 #
eagleye13 wrote:
More good scriptures to ponder Frank.
A am lazy today. Where is the scripture that states His people would not know who they are (consider themselves "Gentiles"), but would be called the Sons of the living God?
A am lazy today. Where is the scripture that states His people would not know who they are (consider themselves "Gentiles"), but would be called the Sons of the living God?
Hosea 1:10
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