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Brown signs bills on gun control into law
Jul 2, 2016 17:45:26   #
Progressive One
 
The action signals a subtle shift for the governor, who has taken a skeptical view of past legislation.
BY PATRICK MCGREEVY
SACRAMENTO — Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday signed six gun control bills into law, including new restrictions on semiautomatic rifles and a requirement that ammunition purchasers undergo background checks, saying they will help “enhance public safety” in California.
The governor vetoed five other measures, including an expansion of the use of restraining orders to take guns from people deemed to be dangerous.
The governor’s action comes one day after the Legislature approved a dozen gun control bills that were introduced in response to the December mass shooting in San Bernardino that k**led 14 people. The bills gained legislative momentum after last month’s massacre in Orlando that claimed 49 lives.
“My goal in signing these bills is to enhance public safety by tightening our existing laws in a responsible and focused manner, while protecting the rights of law-abiding gun owners,” Brown wrote in a signing message Friday.
The action appeared to be a subtle shift for Brown, whose complicated record on gun control has been marked by skepticism about whether many proposals increase public safety without infringing on the rights of law-abiding gun owners.
At a time when mass shootings are occurring with escalating frequency, it appears Brown’s pragmatic side and his Jesuit training have made him more open to efforts to control firearms, according to Jaime Regal-ado, a professor emeritus of political science at Cal State L.A.
The National Rifle Assn. Institute for Legislative Action accused the governor of exploiting the terrorist attacks for political gain.
“Gov. Jerry Brown today signed a draconian gun control package that turns California’s law-abiding gun owners into second-class citizens,” said Amy H****r, California spokeswoman for the group. “The governor and Legislature exploited a terrorist attack to push these measures through even though the state’s already restrictive laws did nothing to stop the attack in San Bernardino.”
The bills signed by Brown include a ban on the sale of semiautomatic rifles equipped with so-called bullet buttons that allow the removal and replacement of magazines.
In 2013, Brown, a gun owner who hunted as a younger man, vetoed several gun control bills including one that would have outlawed the sale of semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines, including those with bullet button features.
“I don’t believe that this bill’s blanket ban on semiautomatic rifles would reduce criminal activity or enhance public safety enough to warrant this infringement on gun owners’ rights,” Brown said at the time.
Administration officials said Friday that the earlier version was so broad as to have expanded California’s definition of an assault weapon. The bill he signed Friday, they said, was more precisely focused on the issue of how the ammunition magazines are quickly changed out.
The decision to sign this proposal was welcomed by one of its authors, Assemblyman Marc Levine (D-San Rafael).
“Military assault weapons have no place on our streets,” he said.
Brown’s office noted that Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom has qualified a more expansive gun control measure for the November b****t.
“The governor took swift action today and v**ers will have a chance to go even further in November, if they choose, with the lieutenant governor’s initiative,” said Evan Westrup, a spokesman for Brown.
Newsom, who had criticized the Legislature’s proposals as falling short of his proposed initiative, cast the governor’s actions as a start of reform that his b****t measure would complete. “Today’s steps in the right direction will grow into a giant leap forward for public safety if v**ers pass the Safety for All initiative to keep guns and ammo out of the wrong hands,” Newsom said.
Provisions of the initiative that are not covered by the signed bills include a process for getting felons to relinquish firearms, a requirement to report lost or stolen guns and a mandate that California share data on prohibited persons with federal databases.
Although gun control advocates including Nick Wilcox did not get everything they wanted, they saw the governor’s action as a significant milestone in the movement to limit firearms in California.
“We consider this an enormous step forward,” said Wilcox, legislative advocate for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and the father of a woman k**led by a mentally ill gunman. “The fact that the governor signed six of the bills is a historic event.”
Meanwhile, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the trade association for the gun industry, said the bills would “affect law-abiding Californians while doing nothing to stop the criminal misuse of firearms.”
When asked if it would challenge the new laws in court, a spokesman for the group said it is exploring all options.
“By acting within 24 hours after being sent these bills, and not allowing the public to voice their opinions in order to depart for his European vacation, the governor compounded the miscarriage of legislative process and procedure while demonstrating disdain for Californians who now face laws that clearly infringe on their constitutional rights,” the group said in a statement.
Among the bills fought hardest by the National Rifle Assn. was a measure by state Senate leader Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles) requiring those who buy bullets in California to show an ID card and have their name checked against a list of felons and others prohibited from owning firearms.
The NRA also opposed a bill by Sen. Loni Hancock (D-Oakland) that outlaws the possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
“These so-called high-capacity magazines are not for target shooting or hunting,” Hancock said after her bill was signed. “Their sole purpose is to k**l as many people as possible in the shortest period of time.”
Brown also signed bills restricting the lending of guns without background checks to close family members, and another increasing penalties for filing false reports of firearms being stolen.
Vetoes included a bill that would have allowed coworkers, mental health workers and school officials to petition the court for a “gun violence restraining order” for people judged a danger to themselves and others. Such orders would allow guns to be confiscated for a year.
In vetoing the bill, Brown wrote that he had agreed last year to approve a law that allows family members and law enforcement to petition the courts for restraining orders.
“That law took effect on Jan.1, 2016, so at this point it would be premature to enact a further expansion,” he said.
Another bill that Brown vetoed would have put a measure on the November b****t to make all gun thefts a felony, but he noted that provision already exists in the Newsom initiative.
“While I appreciate the authors’ intent in striving to enhance public safety, I feel that the objective is better attained by having the measure appear before the v**ers only once,” Brown wrote in his veto message.
Other bills the governor vetoed would have required stolen or lost guns to be reported within five days, limited Californians to the purchase of one rifle or shotgun per month and required those who make guns at home to register them with the state and get a serial number so the weapons can be tracked.
On rejecting the bill requiring reporting of stolen guns, Brown noted he had vetoed similar bills twice before.
“I continue to believe that responsible people report the loss or theft of a firearm and irresponsible people do not: It is not likely that this bill would change that,” he wrote in his veto message. patrick.mcgreevy 
@latimes.com  
Times staff writer John
Myers contributed to this article.

DAMIAN DOVARGANES Associated Press
SEIMIAUTOMATIC rifles collected in an LAPD gun buyback program in 2012. The new state laws come in response to shootings in San Bernardino and Orlando.

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Jul 2, 2016 18:01:20   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
More laws will do little to nothing. Rather laws against guns how about strong laws against people that use those guns. In California they think jail and then parole so they can do it again is the way to go, I say k**l those people period.



A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
The action signals a subtle shift for the governor, who has taken a skeptical view of past legislation.
BY PATRICK MCGREEVY
SACRAMENTO — Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday signed six gun control bills into law, including new restrictions on semiautomatic rifles and a requirement that ammunition purchasers undergo background checks, saying they will help “enhance public safety” in California.
The governor vetoed five other measures, including an expansion of the use of restraining orders to take guns from people deemed to be dangerous.
The governor’s action comes one day after the Legislature approved a dozen gun control bills that were introduced in response to the December mass shooting in San Bernardino that k**led 14 people. The bills gained legislative momentum after last month’s massacre in Orlando that claimed 49 lives.
“My goal in signing these bills is to enhance public safety by tightening our existing laws in a responsible and focused manner, while protecting the rights of law-abiding gun owners,” Brown wrote in a signing message Friday.
The action appeared to be a subtle shift for Brown, whose complicated record on gun control has been marked by skepticism about whether many proposals increase public safety without infringing on the rights of law-abiding gun owners.
At a time when mass shootings are occurring with escalating frequency, it appears Brown’s pragmatic side and his Jesuit training have made him more open to efforts to control firearms, according to Jaime Regal-ado, a professor emeritus of political science at Cal State L.A.
The National Rifle Assn. Institute for Legislative Action accused the governor of exploiting the terrorist attacks for political gain.
“Gov. Jerry Brown today signed a draconian gun control package that turns California’s law-abiding gun owners into second-class citizens,” said Amy H****r, California spokeswoman for the group. “The governor and Legislature exploited a terrorist attack to push these measures through even though the state’s already restrictive laws did nothing to stop the attack in San Bernardino.”
The bills signed by Brown include a ban on the sale of semiautomatic rifles equipped with so-called bullet buttons that allow the removal and replacement of magazines.
In 2013, Brown, a gun owner who hunted as a younger man, vetoed several gun control bills including one that would have outlawed the sale of semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines, including those with bullet button features.
“I don’t believe that this bill’s blanket ban on semiautomatic rifles would reduce criminal activity or enhance public safety enough to warrant this infringement on gun owners’ rights,” Brown said at the time.
Administration officials said Friday that the earlier version was so broad as to have expanded California’s definition of an assault weapon. The bill he signed Friday, they said, was more precisely focused on the issue of how the ammunition magazines are quickly changed out.
The decision to sign this proposal was welcomed by one of its authors, Assemblyman Marc Levine (D-San Rafael).
“Military assault weapons have no place on our streets,” he said.
Brown’s office noted that Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom has qualified a more expansive gun control measure for the November b****t.
“The governor took swift action today and v**ers will have a chance to go even further in November, if they choose, with the lieutenant governor’s initiative,” said Evan Westrup, a spokesman for Brown.
Newsom, who had criticized the Legislature’s proposals as falling short of his proposed initiative, cast the governor’s actions as a start of reform that his b****t measure would complete. “Today’s steps in the right direction will grow into a giant leap forward for public safety if v**ers pass the Safety for All initiative to keep guns and ammo out of the wrong hands,” Newsom said.
Provisions of the initiative that are not covered by the signed bills include a process for getting felons to relinquish firearms, a requirement to report lost or stolen guns and a mandate that California share data on prohibited persons with federal databases.
Although gun control advocates including Nick Wilcox did not get everything they wanted, they saw the governor’s action as a significant milestone in the movement to limit firearms in California.
“We consider this an enormous step forward,” said Wilcox, legislative advocate for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and the father of a woman k**led by a mentally ill gunman. “The fact that the governor signed six of the bills is a historic event.”
Meanwhile, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the trade association for the gun industry, said the bills would “affect law-abiding Californians while doing nothing to stop the criminal misuse of firearms.”
When asked if it would challenge the new laws in court, a spokesman for the group said it is exploring all options.
“By acting within 24 hours after being sent these bills, and not allowing the public to voice their opinions in order to depart for his European vacation, the governor compounded the miscarriage of legislative process and procedure while demonstrating disdain for Californians who now face laws that clearly infringe on their constitutional rights,” the group said in a statement.
Among the bills fought hardest by the National Rifle Assn. was a measure by state Senate leader Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles) requiring those who buy bullets in California to show an ID card and have their name checked against a list of felons and others prohibited from owning firearms.
The NRA also opposed a bill by Sen. Loni Hancock (D-Oakland) that outlaws the possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
“These so-called high-capacity magazines are not for target shooting or hunting,” Hancock said after her bill was signed. “Their sole purpose is to k**l as many people as possible in the shortest period of time.”
Brown also signed bills restricting the lending of guns without background checks to close family members, and another increasing penalties for filing false reports of firearms being stolen.
Vetoes included a bill that would have allowed coworkers, mental health workers and school officials to petition the court for a “gun violence restraining order” for people judged a danger to themselves and others. Such orders would allow guns to be confiscated for a year.
In vetoing the bill, Brown wrote that he had agreed last year to approve a law that allows family members and law enforcement to petition the courts for restraining orders.
“That law took effect on Jan.1, 2016, so at this point it would be premature to enact a further expansion,” he said.
Another bill that Brown vetoed would have put a measure on the November b****t to make all gun thefts a felony, but he noted that provision already exists in the Newsom initiative.
“While I appreciate the authors’ intent in striving to enhance public safety, I feel that the objective is better attained by having the measure appear before the v**ers only once,” Brown wrote in his veto message.
Other bills the governor vetoed would have required stolen or lost guns to be reported within five days, limited Californians to the purchase of one rifle or shotgun per month and required those who make guns at home to register them with the state and get a serial number so the weapons can be tracked.
On rejecting the bill requiring reporting of stolen guns, Brown noted he had vetoed similar bills twice before.
“I continue to believe that responsible people report the loss or theft of a firearm and irresponsible people do not: It is not likely that this bill would change that,” he wrote in his veto message. patrick.mcgreevy 
@latimes.com  
Times staff writer John
Myers contributed to this article.

DAMIAN DOVARGANES Associated Press
SEIMIAUTOMATIC rifles collected in an LAPD gun buyback program in 2012. The new state laws come in response to shootings in San Bernardino and Orlando.
The action signals a subtle shift for the governor... (show quote)

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Jul 2, 2016 18:03:04   #
moose
 
Somebody better take this man Jerry Brown out of office.Calif.is already in the toilet with the highest taxes in America and now he wants to take guns out of our hands so we cant protect ourselves.and this knunckle head Is still Governor.What the hell is wrong with this man? I know,he is a Democrat

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS A DISEASE

ALL L***S M****R

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Jul 2, 2016 18:48:08   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
moose wrote:
Somebody better take this man Jerry Brown out of office.Calif.is already in the toilet with the highest taxes in America and now he wants to take guns out of our hands so we cant protect ourselves.and this knunckle head Is still Governor.What the hell is wrong with this man? I know,he is a Democrat

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS A DISEASE

ALL L***S M****R


Who v**es for him?

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Jul 2, 2016 21:09:55   #
Progressive One
 
EL wrote:
Who v**es for him?


He's been governor three times I think...people in CA don't mind taxes and would rather pay them than live in rural squalor to save a buck.....too many people here for that...........

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Jul 3, 2016 08:52:16   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
The action signals a subtle shift for the governor, who has taken a skeptical view of past legislation.
BY PATRICK MCGREEVY
SACRAMENTO — Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday signed six gun control bills into law, including new restrictions on semiautomatic rifles and a requirement that ammunition purchasers undergo background checks, saying they will help “enhance public safety” in California.
The governor vetoed five other measures, including an expansion of the use of restraining orders to take guns from people deemed to be dangerous.
The governor’s action comes one day after the Legislature approved a dozen gun control bills that were introduced in response to the December mass shooting in San Bernardino that k**led 14 people. The bills gained legislative momentum after last month’s massacre in Orlando that claimed 49 lives.
“My goal in signing these bills is to enhance public safety by tightening our existing laws in a responsible and focused manner, while protecting the rights of law-abiding gun owners,” Brown wrote in a signing message Friday.
The action appeared to be a subtle shift for Brown, whose complicated record on gun control has been marked by skepticism about whether many proposals increase public safety without infringing on the rights of law-abiding gun owners.
At a time when mass shootings are occurring with escalating frequency, it appears Brown’s pragmatic side and his Jesuit training have made him more open to efforts to control firearms, according to Jaime Regal-ado, a professor emeritus of political science at Cal State L.A.
The National Rifle Assn. Institute for Legislative Action accused the governor of exploiting the terrorist attacks for political gain.
“Gov. Jerry Brown today signed a draconian gun control package that turns California’s law-abiding gun owners into second-class citizens,” said Amy H****r, California spokeswoman for the group. “The governor and Legislature exploited a terrorist attack to push these measures through even though the state’s already restrictive laws did nothing to stop the attack in San Bernardino.”
The bills signed by Brown include a ban on the sale of semiautomatic rifles equipped with so-called bullet buttons that allow the removal and replacement of magazines.
In 2013, Brown, a gun owner who hunted as a younger man, vetoed several gun control bills including one that would have outlawed the sale of semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines, including those with bullet button features.
“I don’t believe that this bill’s blanket ban on semiautomatic rifles would reduce criminal activity or enhance public safety enough to warrant this infringement on gun owners’ rights,” Brown said at the time.
Administration officials said Friday that the earlier version was so broad as to have expanded California’s definition of an assault weapon. The bill he signed Friday, they said, was more precisely focused on the issue of how the ammunition magazines are quickly changed out.
The decision to sign this proposal was welcomed by one of its authors, Assemblyman Marc Levine (D-San Rafael).
“Military assault weapons have no place on our streets,” he said.
Brown’s office noted that Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom has qualified a more expansive gun control measure for the November b****t.
“The governor took swift action today and v**ers will have a chance to go even further in November, if they choose, with the lieutenant governor’s initiative,” said Evan Westrup, a spokesman for Brown.
Newsom, who had criticized the Legislature’s proposals as falling short of his proposed initiative, cast the governor’s actions as a start of reform that his b****t measure would complete. “Today’s steps in the right direction will grow into a giant leap forward for public safety if v**ers pass the Safety for All initiative to keep guns and ammo out of the wrong hands,” Newsom said.
Provisions of the initiative that are not covered by the signed bills include a process for getting felons to relinquish firearms, a requirement to report lost or stolen guns and a mandate that California share data on prohibited persons with federal databases.
Although gun control advocates including Nick Wilcox did not get everything they wanted, they saw the governor’s action as a significant milestone in the movement to limit firearms in California.
“We consider this an enormous step forward,” said Wilcox, legislative advocate for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and the father of a woman k**led by a mentally ill gunman. “The fact that the governor signed six of the bills is a historic event.”
Meanwhile, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the trade association for the gun industry, said the bills would “affect law-abiding Californians while doing nothing to stop the criminal misuse of firearms.”
When asked if it would challenge the new laws in court, a spokesman for the group said it is exploring all options.
“By acting within 24 hours after being sent these bills, and not allowing the public to voice their opinions in order to depart for his European vacation, the governor compounded the miscarriage of legislative process and procedure while demonstrating disdain for Californians who now face laws that clearly infringe on their constitutional rights,” the group said in a statement.
Among the bills fought hardest by the National Rifle Assn. was a measure by state Senate leader Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles) requiring those who buy bullets in California to show an ID card and have their name checked against a list of felons and others prohibited from owning firearms.
The NRA also opposed a bill by Sen. Loni Hancock (D-Oakland) that outlaws the possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
“These so-called high-capacity magazines are not for target shooting or hunting,” Hancock said after her bill was signed. “Their sole purpose is to k**l as many people as possible in the shortest period of time.”
Brown also signed bills restricting the lending of guns without background checks to close family members, and another increasing penalties for filing false reports of firearms being stolen.
Vetoes included a bill that would have allowed coworkers, mental health workers and school officials to petition the court for a “gun violence restraining order” for people judged a danger to themselves and others. Such orders would allow guns to be confiscated for a year.
In vetoing the bill, Brown wrote that he had agreed last year to approve a law that allows family members and law enforcement to petition the courts for restraining orders.
“That law took effect on Jan.1, 2016, so at this point it would be premature to enact a further expansion,” he said.
Another bill that Brown vetoed would have put a measure on the November b****t to make all gun thefts a felony, but he noted that provision already exists in the Newsom initiative.
“While I appreciate the authors’ intent in striving to enhance public safety, I feel that the objective is better attained by having the measure appear before the v**ers only once,” Brown wrote in his veto message.
Other bills the governor vetoed would have required stolen or lost guns to be reported within five days, limited Californians to the purchase of one rifle or shotgun per month and required those who make guns at home to register them with the state and get a serial number so the weapons can be tracked.
On rejecting the bill requiring reporting of stolen guns, Brown noted he had vetoed similar bills twice before.
“I continue to believe that responsible people report the loss or theft of a firearm and irresponsible people do not: It is not likely that this bill would change that,” he wrote in his veto message. patrick.mcgreevy 
@latimes.com  
Times staff writer John
Myers contributed to this article.

DAMIAN DOVARGANES Associated Press
SEIMIAUTOMATIC rifles collected in an LAPD gun buyback program in 2012. The new state laws come in response to shootings in San Bernardino and Orlando.
The action signals a subtle shift for the governor... (show quote)


Now, if they can get all the gangs and other criminal enterprises to relinquish their arsenals ( most of which dwarf LA County Sheriffs armory ), we can have some actual safety. The problem with gun control laws are - they're far too little, far too late. There is simply no possible way to clear out the billions of firearms already in circulation and even should such an event occur - the black market will gleefully fill the gap. Does anyone honestly think we could prevent the sale of illegal firearms, when we cannot prevent the sale of illegal drugs?

I keep saying, guns are not the issue or the problem, people are, so any realistic efforts at reducing violence must be concentrated there. Mandatory life sentences, or automatic death penalties, for any offence involving a firearm would be a start. The second item must include much more mental health attention and treatment. Mental health treatment is far cheaper than incarceration, so even conservatives could get on board.

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Jul 3, 2016 16:56:09   #
moose
 
Their is a easy way to clean up all these gangs in different cities.Send in the National Guard and run these bums out and put them in jail and deport the i******s in these gangs.They are a fungus on society,and the National Guard will get rid of them.Try to give them a education and if they don't want that then let them be bad in jail.They will find out how bad they are.

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Jul 3, 2016 18:40:45   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Deport is not in his way of thought nor is anyone illegal in his mind.



moose wrote:
Their is a easy way to clean up all these gangs in different cities.Send in the National Guard and run these bums out and put them in jail and deport the i******s in these gangs.They are a fungus on society,and the National Guard will get rid of them.Try to give them a education and if they don't want that then let them be bad in jail.They will find out how bad they are.

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Jul 3, 2016 18:48:42   #
Progressive One
 
moose wrote:
Their is a easy way to clean up all these gangs in different cities.Send in the National Guard and run these bums out and put them in jail and deport the i******s in these gangs.They are a fungus on society,and the National Guard will get rid of them.Try to give them a education and if they don't want that then let them be bad in jail.They will find out how bad they are.


Be sure you check out in the sticks also....watch the Documentary, "Banging In Little Rock" and see how the white kids do it...........



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Sep 23, 2017 00:49:37   #
sum
 
The usual road to s***ery is that first they take away your guns, then they take away your property, then last of all they tell you to shut up and say you are enjoying it.

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