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Jun 24, 2016 12:43:43   #
CarolSeer2016
 
Some few days ago, eagleye posted a passage from Britton: "Behind C*******m".

First off, eagleye seems to find conspiracies around every corner. But be that as it may, here are some thoughts:

I have tried to explain this before, but maybe with repetitions it will sink in.

The reason that Jews were the predominantly wealthy class throughout history has nothing to do with their personality, or any schemes of worldwide conquest on their part.

It is simply this:

Because Christians were not allowed to charge interest on loans, or perhaps even to engage in money changing (due to a misinterpretation of Jesus' actions in the temple---I'll explain later) at risk of losing their souls, the Jews, who had no religious imperative of that sort, were able to loan money and charge interest. (And if you think it is wrong to charge interest, I will educate you further on "the time value of money" at another time). Also, with the influx of gold and silver, Jews were also engaged in the making of "jewelry". But most importantly, the Jewish bankers, as banking evolved, received deposits of clients, and made loans from those deposits. And so "true" banking was begun, and that contributed to the development of capitalism itself.

It is true that King Francis of France destroyed the Knights Templars (from whence we get the disturbing scare of "Friday the 13th" ), for their money. The Templars had great wealth because they were able to convey large amounts of money throughout Europe and the Middle East, before such things as letters of credit were known.

Now, it does appear at times that wealthy capitalists engage in what I call "excesses of errant capitalism." For some people, mainly conspiracy theorists, that implies that the capitalists are about to take over and rule the world. The solution to this lies in effective global financial regulations. At this time, however, the exact relationship between global capital flows and international trade and commerce is still obscure. (And it is the problem for which I have spent my time learning Economics). And it is also a fact that America and Americans are as yet too immature to address the issue. And so power has, and must, shift eastward.

Additionally, eagleye, the Bolsheviks used everyone and anyone to accomplish their objectives. The Jews were used for their money, as well as for their sympathy. That Lenin may have been partially Jewish has absolutely no significance. Hitler also, was said to have had a Jewish grandmother.

If you have questions, ask nicely, and I may answer. But cut it out with "Jews want to rule the world" stuff!

One other thing, eagleye, I believe David Rockefeller, and even Colonel House had the best of intentions when they originated the Trilateral Commission and the Council of Foreign Affairs. However, there is considerable power now concentrated in the hands of unelected people. (Although I sometimes wonder if the e*****rate can make wise financial decisions anyway---the Marching Morons, you know.)

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Jun 24, 2016 12:45:29   #
CarolSeer2016
 
One more thing. I suppose you think the Medici's were Jewish too, eagleye.

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Jun 24, 2016 13:27:13   #
okie don
 
Carol,

America is indebted to the Khazarian Rothschield's Banking Cabal to the tune of some $19 Trillion.
Interest % accrues Daily enslaving ALL Americans.
Apparently this meets with your approval.
Hmmmmmm(:

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Jun 24, 2016 13:28:08   #
CarolSeer2016
 
What the hell has that got to do with this comment?

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Jun 24, 2016 13:44:21   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Some few days ago, eagleye posted a passage from Britton: "Behind C*******m".

First off, eagleye seems to find conspiracies around every corner. But be that as it may, here are some thoughts:

I have tried to explain this before, but maybe with repetitions it will sink in.

The reason that Jews were the predominantly wealthy class throughout history has nothing to do with their personality, or any schemes of worldwide conquest on their part.

It is simply this:

Because Christians were not allowed to charge interest on loans, or perhaps even to engage in money changing (due to a misinterpretation of Jesus' actions in the temple---I'll explain later) at risk of losing their souls, the Jews, who had no religious imperative of that sort, were able to loan money and charge interest. (And if you think it is wrong to charge interest, I will educate you further on "the time value of money" at another time). Also, with the influx of gold and silver, Jews were also engaged in the making of "jewelry". But most importantly, the Jewish bankers, as banking evolved, received deposits of clients, and made loans from those deposits. And so "true" banking was begun, and that contributed to the development of capitalism itself.

It is true that King Francis of France destroyed the Knights Templars (from whence we get the disturbing scare of "Friday the 13th" ), for their money. The Templars had great wealth because they were able to convey large amounts of money throughout Europe and the Middle East, before such things as letters of credit were known.

Now, it does appear at times that wealthy capitalists engage in what I call "excesses of errant capitalism." For some people, mainly conspiracy theorists, that implies that the capitalists are about to take over and rule the world. The solution to this lies in effective global financial regulations. At this time, however, the exact relationship between global capital flows and international trade and commerce is still obscure. (And it is the problem for which I have spent my time learning Economics). And it is also a fact that America and Americans are as yet too immature to address the issue. And so power has, and must, shift eastward.

Additionally, eagleye, the Bolsheviks used everyone and anyone to accomplish their objectives. The Jews were used for their money, as well as for their sympathy. That Lenin may have been partially Jewish has absolutely no significance. Hitler also, was said to have had a Jewish grandmother.

If you have questions, ask nicely, and I may answer. But cut it out with "Jews want to rule the world" stuff!

One other thing, eagleye, I believe David Rockefeller, and even Colonel House had the best of intentions when they originated the Trilateral Commission and the Council of Foreign Affairs. However, there is considerable power now concentrated in the hands of unelected people. (Although I sometimes wonder if the e*****rate can make wise financial decisions anyway---the Marching Morons, you know.)
Some few days ago, eagleye posted a passage from B... (show quote)


Money & banking are needed. It allows Us to t***sact trade easier.

That said. That don't mean We have to pay the price we do for our money.

It bodes well for those that handle & keep most of the wealth to see that money flows freely & all to have a fair chance to have some.

Through out history wars have been wage to change the flow of money & wealth. Today it is no exception.
Wars end up putting more money & wealth in to fewer hands.

One thing is clear. People can live with out bankers but with out the people there is no need for bankers.
Bankers have been know to finance both sides in war.
Just what role is Banking Interests playing in the conflicts we have today?
People bemoan the lose or freedoms. Freedom means very little if you don't have the means to use your freedoms in a modern World.

People with the means to produce some thing. even if it only at the barest level have more than one who has a pocket full of bankers money & is indebted to the banker.

The problems we have to day is the cost of money is to much for the population to carry.

GREED WILL SINK US ALL IF WE CAN NOT EASE THE BURDEN OF THE MONEY CHANGERS DEMANDS.

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Jun 24, 2016 13:54:57   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
"If you have questions, ask nicely, and I may answer. But cut it out with "Jews want to rule the world" stuff!"

It is what it is. Everyone has to come to their own conclusions.
Behind C*******m is very well documented; but Briton does not differentiate the many aspects/types of those considered "Jews" or who call themselves Jews.
No differentiation between Torah and Talmud.

"First off, eagleye seems to find conspiracies around every corner." - CarolSeer
Quite the simplification.

Well it is off to the beach boys and girls.

CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Some few days ago, eagleye posted a passage from Britton: "Behind C*******m".

First off, eagleye seems to find conspiracies around every corner. But be that as it may, here are some thoughts:

I have tried to explain this before, but maybe with repetitions it will sink in.

The reason that Jews were the predominantly wealthy class throughout history has nothing to do with their personality, or any schemes of worldwide conquest on their part.

It is simply this:

Because Christians were not allowed to charge interest on loans, or perhaps even to engage in money changing (due to a misinterpretation of Jesus' actions in the temple---I'll explain later) at risk of losing their souls, the Jews, who had no religious imperative of that sort, were able to loan money and charge interest. (And if you think it is wrong to charge interest, I will educate you further on "the time value of money" at another time). Also, with the influx of gold and silver, Jews were also engaged in the making of "jewelry". But most importantly, the Jewish bankers, as banking evolved, received deposits of clients, and made loans from those deposits. And so "true" banking was begun, and that contributed to the development of capitalism itself.

It is true that King Francis of France destroyed the Knights Templars (from whence we get the disturbing scare of "Friday the 13th" ), for their money. The Templars had great wealth because they were able to convey large amounts of money throughout Europe and the Middle East, before such things as letters of credit were known.

Now, it does appear at times that wealthy capitalists engage in what I call "excesses of errant capitalism." For some people, mainly conspiracy theorists, that implies that the capitalists are about to take over and rule the world. The solution to this lies in effective global financial regulations. At this time, however, the exact relationship between global capital flows and international trade and commerce is still obscure. (And it is the problem for which I have spent my time learning Economics). And it is also a fact that America and Americans are as yet too immature to address the issue. And so power has, and must, shift eastward.

Additionally, eagleye, the Bolsheviks used everyone and anyone to accomplish their objectives. The Jews were used for their money, as well as for their sympathy. That Lenin may have been partially Jewish has absolutely no significance. Hitler also, was said to have had a Jewish grandmother.

If you have questions, ask nicely, and I may answer. But cut it out with "Jews want to rule the world" stuff!

One other thing, eagleye, I believe David Rockefeller, and even Colonel House had the best of intentions when they originated the Trilateral Commission and the Council of Foreign Affairs. However, there is considerable power now concentrated in the hands of unelected people. (Although I sometimes wonder if the e*****rate can make wise financial decisions anyway---the Marching Morons, you know.)
Some few days ago, eagleye posted a passage from B... (show quote)

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Jun 24, 2016 13:59:45   #
CarolSeer2016
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"If you have questions, ask nicely, and I may answer. But cut it out with "Jews want to rule the world" stuff!"

It is what it is. Everyone has to come to their own conclusions.
Behind C*******m is very well documented; but Briton does not differentiate the many aspects/types of those considered "Jews" or who call themselves Jews.
No differentiation between Torah and Talmud.

"First off, eagleye seems to find conspiracies around every corner." - CarolSeer
Quite the simplification.

Well it is off to the beach boys and girls.
"If you have questions, ask nicely, and I may... (show quote)


Well, EE, that was fairly non-injurious. Have a good time beachin'.

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Jun 24, 2016 14:00:39   #
CarolSeer2016
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Money & banking are needed. It allows Us to t***sact trade easier.

That said. That don't mean We have to pay the price we do for our money.

It bodes well for those that handle & keep most of the wealth to see that money flows freely & all to have a fair chance to have some.

Through out history wars have been wage to change the flow of money & wealth. Today it is no exception.
Wars end up putting more money & wealth in to fewer hands.

One thing is clear. People can live with out bankers but with out the people there is no need for bankers.
Bankers have been know to finance both sides in war.
Just what role is Banking Interests playing in the conflicts we have today?
People bemoan the lose or freedoms. Freedom means very little if you don't have the means to use your freedoms in a modern World.

People with the means to produce some thing. even if it only at the barest level have more than one who has a pocket full of bankers money & is indebted to the banker.

The problems we have to day is the cost of money is to much for the population to carry.

GREED WILL SINK US ALL IF WE CAN NOT EASE THE BURDEN OF THE MONEY CHANGERS DEMANDS.
Money & banking are needed. It allows Us to t*... (show quote)



A question for you, Floyd. What do YOU think is the main problem in the world today?

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Jun 24, 2016 15:05:07   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
A question for you, Floyd. What do YOU think is the main problem in the world today?


I wrote what I thought was a good reply & then not paying proper attention I Lost it.

It is just that one of our own leaders a few years back made a bad (For Us) deal.

There were some sharp minds with a little extra cash laying around & loaned it to Us.

No matter how much we pay back the loan just keeps getting bigger.

They must have use the right words when they dealt with our people. The Fed even prints more money & just sends Us a Bill.

Now I say that the price we pay for the Fed to print our money is pretty expensive. (They may not charge Us for the printing put we keep paying them)

Now because we can not have the money printed fast enough to or in large enough amounts. We just charge most t***sactions(More money for the Bankers)
Now this is such of a good deal for Us that the Banks are starting to think they should even charge Us for holding our money(It don't end there. They are working on an idea that they should charge Us interest on the money they hold & use for their gain.

The people that do that surly most be smarter than we are & we such be properly thankful to them.

I think you get the idea that I could go on & on with this issue.

So tell me what you thing & I can say much the same thing over & over with different words.

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Jun 24, 2016 15:14:36   #
CarolSeer2016
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I wrote what I thought was a good reply & then not paying proper attention I Lost it.

It is just that one of our own leaders a few years back made a bad (For Us) deal.

There were some sharp minds with a little extra cash laying around & loaned it to Us.

No matter how much we pay back the loan just keeps getting bigger.

They must have use the right words when they dealt with our people. The Fed even prints more money & just sends Us a Bill.

Now I say that the price we pay for the Fed to print our money is pretty expensive. (They may not charge Us for the printing put we keep paying them)

Now because we can not have the money printed fast enough to or in large enough amounts. We just charge most t***sactions(More money for the Bankers)
Now this is such of a good deal for Us that the Banks are starting to think they should even charge Us for holding our money(It don't end there. They are working on an idea that they should charge Us interest on the money they hold & use for their gain.

The people that do that surly most be smarter than we are & we such be properly thankful to them.

I think you get the idea that I could go on & on with this issue.

So tell me what you thing & I can say much the same thing over & over with different words.
I wrote what I thought was a good reply & then... (show quote)


I thought you were talking about the Chinese.

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Jun 24, 2016 15:14:51   #
okie don
 
Yep, banks now considering charging negative interest for letting our cash stay in their bank.

Something seems wrong with this picture to me.(:

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Jun 25, 2016 06:38:11   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
Excessive usury imposed upon businesses, individuals or governments by banks is a method of control. It has "evolved" into a straight-up form of coercion that only serves the lending institutions that impose it. Today, with fractional-reserve banking being the Western banking cartels main practice, the money they lend is not recycled from previous deposits,but is created out of thin air that did not exist until it was "lent", merely by putting numbers on their accounting books.

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Jun 25, 2016 07:41:57   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Yep Anthony; The working middle class works for its "money". The banksters just add digit$; and wala. Than to top it off the American citizens collateralize the "debt" with their labor. Then to top it off; the American Taxpayer payed off the USA and foreign bank's debts (remember Tarp?). The s**m must be put to death. The private Fed Reserve must be fired. Congress must create US Notes without interest tied to them, as per the Constitution.

and BTW; this thread is a response to the points made in Behind C*******m (financing the Bolshevik Revolution. etc.). The responses were covered.
Carol Seer seemed that was a useful endeavor. Probably so.
So for those interested:

Behind C*******m
Behind C*******m : Frank L Britton : Free Download & Streaming ...
http://archive.org/details/BehindC*******m
by Frank L Britton. Probably published in 1952.


J Anthony wrote:
Excessive usury imposed upon businesses, individuals or governments by banks is a method of control. It has "evolved" into a straight-up form of coercion that only serves the lending institutions that impose it. Today, with fractional-reserve banking being the Western banking cartels main practice, the money they lend is not recycled from previous deposits,but is created out of thin air that did not exist until it was "lent", merely by putting numbers on their accounting books.
Excessive usury imposed upon businesses, individua... (show quote)

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Jun 25, 2016 09:15:29   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
okie don wrote:
Yep, banks now considering charging negative interest for letting our cash stay in their bank.

Something seems wrong with this picture to me.(:


Well we just don't know the burden of having money.

Carrying around all that money & worrying about people trying to take it from you. Don't you some times feel a bit sorry for them?

I only have a little money & I have to worry if it will last for me. Now just say what kind of problems you have with 1,000's of times more.

Don't they need to be thanked for the trouble they save Us?

Well that will have to be our little chuckle for the day.

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Jun 25, 2016 10:21:43   #
GRB777
 
Don, the banks don't worry about carrying around money either. They charge interest on what they create out of fresh air. By the way Carol, charging interest is wrong according to the "creator", and I for one don't care what "you" think. The "creator" owns everything; he makes the rules not you or those like you.

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