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Republicans consider 'conscientious objector' rule for convention delegates
Jun 19, 2016 16:12:19   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago

Members of the GOP Convention Rules committee are planning to consider an amendment to allow delegates a way out of v****g for Trump on the first b****t—an effort that in an extreme could be used to deny him the nomination.

Under the proposal, delegates could be granted conscientious objector status, thereby freeing them from their pledge to v**e as they are bound as the result of primaries and caucuses. The measure, first put forward by Colorado delegate Kendal Unruh, would undo the strict ‘faithless-delegate’ rule enacted at the GOP convention in 2012 and allow a “v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious” by delegates.

“Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention,” the amendment says.

Nearly all convention delegates are bound under the current rules—at least on the first b****t—by the results of primaries and caucuses in their states and territories. At minimum the proposed amendment would free frustrated delegates from having to v**e for Trump, and in the extreme could deny Trump the 1,237 delegates required to win the nomination—even on the first b****t.

On Friday, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus announced the se******n of the chair and co-chair of the Convention Rules Committee, Utah National Committeewoman Enid Mickelson and Massachusetts National Committeeman Ron Kaufman. Both have spoken negatively about Trump in the past, but are viewed as party institutionalists. On Friday afternoon, the RNC Counsel’s Office distributed copies of the party’s current rules and proposed changes recommended by the RNC’s standing committee on rules to all members of the convention rules committee. In the week before the Cleveland convention, the convention rules committee and the full convention will have to approve the new rules, as well as any proposed amendments.

The circulating draft is one of several proposed amendments designed to undermine Trump or alleviate the concerns of delegates at the convention. A more radical proposal would unbind all delegates for any reason, while more limited measures would provide delegates with other outlets to voice their frustration with Trump at the convention.

In an interview with TIME last week, Trump said he had “no comment” about whether delegates who don’t support him should be removed from the convention, but said that those seeking to undermine him already “had their chance.”

“All I’ve heard is I’ve got more v**es than anybody in the history,” Trump said. “So I think it’s a little hard for somebody to do that. More v**es than anybody in history. They had their chance. I do know they represented other people who were defeated. And they had their chance. They could have won but they didn’t.”

The convention rules committee is made up of one man and one woman from each of the 50 states, U.S. territories, and the District of Columbia. Dominated by party insiders and loyalists to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz—who aggressively worked state conventions to secure slots on the committee—it remains to be seen what the committee’s appetite would be for such a dramatic break from the existing rules. It is complicated further by the Republican National Committee’s embrace of Trump early last month, even as some party leaders are reversing their earlier decisions to support Trump.

In an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd this week, Ryan gave members of his conference the leeway to avoid backing Trump. “The last thing I would do is tell anybody to do something that’s contrary to their conscience,” he said.

The text of the proposed rule:

'Preserving Delegates’ Ability to V**e Their Individual Conscience. The secretary of the national convention shall receive and faithfully announce and record each delegate’s v**e in accordance with these rules. If any such delegate notifies the secretary of his or her intent to cast a v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious, each such delegate shall be unbound and unconstrained by these rules on any given v**e, including the first b****t for the se******n of the Republican nominee for President of the United States, without the risk of challenge, sanction, or retribution by the Republican National Committee. Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention.'
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Although I am certainly no fan of Donald Trump, I believe this is an unwarranted attempt at disrupting/destroying the purpose of the primary e******ns process of either/both parties. The rules were, or should have been, understood prior to the v****g. T***p w*n the GOP primaries, and should, by all rights, be the nominee for the Republican Party...slatten49

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Jun 19, 2016 16:34:36   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
slatten49 wrote:
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago

Members of the GOP Convention Rules committee are planning to consider an amendment to allow delegates a way out of v****g for Trump on the first b****t—an effort that in an extreme could be used to deny him the nomination.

Under the proposal, delegates could be granted conscientious objector status, thereby freeing them from their pledge to v**e as they are bound as the result of primaries and caucuses. The measure, first put forward by Colorado delegate Kendal Unruh, would undo the strict ‘faithless-delegate’ rule enacted at the GOP convention in 2012 and allow a “v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious” by delegates.

“Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention,” the amendment says.

Nearly all convention delegates are bound under the current rules—at least on the first b****t—by the results of primaries and caucuses in their states and territories. At minimum the proposed amendment would free frustrated delegates from having to v**e for Trump, and in the extreme could deny Trump the 1,237 delegates required to win the nomination—even on the first b****t.

On Friday, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus announced the se******n of the chair and co-chair of the Convention Rules Committee, Utah National Committeewoman Enid Mickelson and Massachusetts National Committeeman Ron Kaufman. Both have spoken negatively about Trump in the past, but are viewed as party institutionalists. On Friday afternoon, the RNC Counsel’s Office distributed copies of the party’s current rules and proposed changes recommended by the RNC’s standing committee on rules to all members of the convention rules committee. In the week before the Cleveland convention, the convention rules committee and the full convention will have to approve the new rules, as well as any proposed amendments.

The circulating draft is one of several proposed amendments designed to undermine Trump or alleviate the concerns of delegates at the convention. A more radical proposal would unbind all delegates for any reason, while more limited measures would provide delegates with other outlets to voice their frustration with Trump at the convention.

In an interview with TIME last week, Trump said he had “no comment” about whether delegates who don’t support him should be removed from the convention, but said that those seeking to undermine him already “had their chance.”

“All I’ve heard is I’ve got more v**es than anybody in the history,” Trump said. “So I think it’s a little hard for somebody to do that. More v**es than anybody in history. They had their chance. I do know they represented other people who were defeated. And they had their chance. They could have won but they didn’t.”

The convention rules committee is made up of one man and one woman from each of the 50 states, U.S. territories, and the District of Columbia. Dominated by party insiders and loyalists to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz—who aggressively worked state conventions to secure slots on the committee—it remains to be seen what the committee’s appetite would be for such a dramatic break from the existing rules. It is complicated further by the Republican National Committee’s embrace of Trump early last month, even as some party leaders are reversing their earlier decisions to support Trump.

In an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd this week, Ryan gave members of his conference the leeway to avoid backing Trump. “The last thing I would do is tell anybody to do something that’s contrary to their conscience,” he said.

The text of the proposed rule:

'Preserving Delegates’ Ability to V**e Their Individual Conscience. The secretary of the national convention shall receive and faithfully announce and record each delegate’s v**e in accordance with these rules. If any such delegate notifies the secretary of his or her intent to cast a v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious, each such delegate shall be unbound and unconstrained by these rules on any given v**e, including the first b****t for the se******n of the Republican nominee for President of the United States, without the risk of challenge, sanction, or retribution by the Republican National Committee. Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention.'
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Although I am certainly no fan of Donald Trump, I believe this is an unwarranted attempt at disrupting/destroying the purpose of the primary e******ns process of either/both parties. The rules were, or should have been, understood prior to the v****g. T***p w*n the GOP primaries, and should, by all rights, be the nominee for the Republican Party...slatten49
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago br br Membe... (show quote)


Right!! Otherwise, why bother v****g?

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Jun 19, 2016 16:37:21   #
samtheyank
 
slatten49 wrote:
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago

Members of the GOP Convention Rules committee are planning to consider an amendment to allow delegates a way out of v****g for Trump on the first b****t—an effort that in an extreme could be used to deny him the nomination.

Under the proposal, delegates could be granted conscientious objector status, thereby freeing them from their pledge to v**e as they are bound as the result of primaries and caucuses. The measure, first put forward by Colorado delegate Kendal Unruh, would undo the strict ‘faithless-delegate’ rule enacted at the GOP convention in 2012 and allow a “v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious” by delegates.

“Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention,” the amendment says.

Nearly all convention delegates are bound under the current rules—at least on the first b****t—by the results of primaries and caucuses in their states and territories. At minimum the proposed amendment would free frustrated delegates from having to v**e for Trump, and in the extreme could deny Trump the 1,237 delegates required to win the nomination—even on the first b****t.

On Friday, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus announced the se******n of the chair and co-chair of the Convention Rules Committee, Utah National Committeewoman Enid Mickelson and Massachusetts National Committeeman Ron Kaufman. Both have spoken negatively about Trump in the past, but are viewed as party institutionalists. On Friday afternoon, the RNC Counsel’s Office distributed copies of the party’s current rules and proposed changes recommended by the RNC’s standing committee on rules to all members of the convention rules committee. In the week before the Cleveland convention, the convention rules committee and the full convention will have to approve the new rules, as well as any proposed amendments.

The circulating draft is one of several proposed amendments designed to undermine Trump or alleviate the concerns of delegates at the convention. A more radical proposal would unbind all delegates for any reason, while more limited measures would provide delegates with other outlets to voice their frustration with Trump at the convention.

In an interview with TIME last week, Trump said he had “no comment” about whether delegates who don’t support him should be removed from the convention, but said that those seeking to undermine him already “had their chance.”

“All I’ve heard is I’ve got more v**es than anybody in the history,” Trump said. “So I think it’s a little hard for somebody to do that. More v**es than anybody in history. They had their chance. I do know they represented other people who were defeated. And they had their chance. They could have won but they didn’t.”

The convention rules committee is made up of one man and one woman from each of the 50 states, U.S. territories, and the District of Columbia. Dominated by party insiders and loyalists to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz—who aggressively worked state conventions to secure slots on the committee—it remains to be seen what the committee’s appetite would be for such a dramatic break from the existing rules. It is complicated further by the Republican National Committee’s embrace of Trump early last month, even as some party leaders are reversing their earlier decisions to support Trump.

In an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd this week, Ryan gave members of his conference the leeway to avoid backing Trump. “The last thing I would do is tell anybody to do something that’s contrary to their conscience,” he said.

The text of the proposed rule:

'Preserving Delegates’ Ability to V**e Their Individual Conscience. The secretary of the national convention shall receive and faithfully announce and record each delegate’s v**e in accordance with these rules. If any such delegate notifies the secretary of his or her intent to cast a v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious, each such delegate shall be unbound and unconstrained by these rules on any given v**e, including the first b****t for the se******n of the Republican nominee for President of the United States, without the risk of challenge, sanction, or retribution by the Republican National Committee. Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention.'
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Although I am certainly no fan of Donald Trump, I believe this is an unwarranted attempt at disrupting/destroying the purpose of the primary e******ns process of either/both parties. The rules were, or should have been, understood prior to the v****g. T***p w*n the GOP primaries, and should, by all rights, be the nominee for the Republican Party...slatten49
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago br br Membe... (show quote)


If the RINOs do this, Hillary will surely win the White House. Do these damn stooges ever learn anything? The American People will have a lot to say about this as well. It will not be pretty. They always find a way to maintain the status quo. I think Mitt Romney or Jeb Bush will be their man. Damn CHUMPS!

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Jun 19, 2016 16:41:37   #
samtheyank
 
slatten49 wrote:
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago

Members of the GOP Convention Rules committee are planning to consider an amendment to allow delegates a way out of v****g for Trump on the first b****t—an effort that in an extreme could be used to deny him the nomination.

Under the proposal, delegates could be granted conscientious objector status, thereby freeing them from their pledge to v**e as they are bound as the result of primaries and caucuses. The measure, first put forward by Colorado delegate Kendal Unruh, would undo the strict ‘faithless-delegate’ rule enacted at the GOP convention in 2012 and allow a “v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious” by delegates.

“Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention,” the amendment says.

Nearly all convention delegates are bound under the current rules—at least on the first b****t—by the results of primaries and caucuses in their states and territories. At minimum the proposed amendment would free frustrated delegates from having to v**e for Trump, and in the extreme could deny Trump the 1,237 delegates required to win the nomination—even on the first b****t.

On Friday, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus announced the se******n of the chair and co-chair of the Convention Rules Committee, Utah National Committeewoman Enid Mickelson and Massachusetts National Committeeman Ron Kaufman. Both have spoken negatively about Trump in the past, but are viewed as party institutionalists. On Friday afternoon, the RNC Counsel’s Office distributed copies of the party’s current rules and proposed changes recommended by the RNC’s standing committee on rules to all members of the convention rules committee. In the week before the Cleveland convention, the convention rules committee and the full convention will have to approve the new rules, as well as any proposed amendments.

The circulating draft is one of several proposed amendments designed to undermine Trump or alleviate the concerns of delegates at the convention. A more radical proposal would unbind all delegates for any reason, while more limited measures would provide delegates with other outlets to voice their frustration with Trump at the convention.

In an interview with TIME last week, Trump said he had “no comment” about whether delegates who don’t support him should be removed from the convention, but said that those seeking to undermine him already “had their chance.”

“All I’ve heard is I’ve got more v**es than anybody in the history,” Trump said. “So I think it’s a little hard for somebody to do that. More v**es than anybody in history. They had their chance. I do know they represented other people who were defeated. And they had their chance. They could have won but they didn’t.”

The convention rules committee is made up of one man and one woman from each of the 50 states, U.S. territories, and the District of Columbia. Dominated by party insiders and loyalists to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz—who aggressively worked state conventions to secure slots on the committee—it remains to be seen what the committee’s appetite would be for such a dramatic break from the existing rules. It is complicated further by the Republican National Committee’s embrace of Trump early last month, even as some party leaders are reversing their earlier decisions to support Trump.

In an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd this week, Ryan gave members of his conference the leeway to avoid backing Trump. “The last thing I would do is tell anybody to do something that’s contrary to their conscience,” he said.

The text of the proposed rule:

'Preserving Delegates’ Ability to V**e Their Individual Conscience. The secretary of the national convention shall receive and faithfully announce and record each delegate’s v**e in accordance with these rules. If any such delegate notifies the secretary of his or her intent to cast a v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious, each such delegate shall be unbound and unconstrained by these rules on any given v**e, including the first b****t for the se******n of the Republican nominee for President of the United States, without the risk of challenge, sanction, or retribution by the Republican National Committee. Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention.'
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Although I am certainly no fan of Donald Trump, I believe this is an unwarranted attempt at disrupting/destroying the purpose of the primary e******ns process of either/both parties. The rules were, or should have been, understood prior to the v****g. T***p w*n the GOP primaries, and should, by all rights, be the nominee for the Republican Party...slatten49
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago br br Membe... (show quote)


I agree 100%. It was the wishes of the American that was expressed in these primaries. I didn't v**e for Trump, but now that he has won the nomination, I am behind him all the way. I look at the alternative, it turns my stomach and makes me want to vomit. Sheeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

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Jun 19, 2016 17:07:07   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
samtheyank wrote:
If the RINOs do this, Hillary will surely win the White House. Do these damn stooges ever learn anything? The American People will have a lot to say about this as well. It will not be pretty. They always find a way to maintain the status quo. I think Mitt Romney or Jeb Bush will be their man. Damn CHUMPS!


The right is once again attempting its cyclic goal of destroying its own party, for if they actually do this why should anyone ever again v**e for a party in which they have no voice?

Makes one wonder if repub leadership isn't secretly promoting a 3rd party.

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Jun 20, 2016 01:09:07   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
slatten49 wrote:
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago

Members of the GOP Convention Rules committee are planning to consider an amendment to allow delegates a way out of v****g for Trump on the first b****t—an effort that in an extreme could be used to deny him the nomination.

Under the proposal, delegates could be granted conscientious objector status, thereby freeing them from their pledge to v**e as they are bound as the result of primaries and caucuses. The measure, first put forward by Colorado delegate Kendal Unruh, would undo the strict ‘faithless-delegate’ rule enacted at the GOP convention in 2012 and allow a “v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious” by delegates.

“Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention,” the amendment says.

Nearly all convention delegates are bound under the current rules—at least on the first b****t—by the results of primaries and caucuses in their states and territories. At minimum the proposed amendment would free frustrated delegates from having to v**e for Trump, and in the extreme could deny Trump the 1,237 delegates required to win the nomination—even on the first b****t.

On Friday, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus announced the se******n of the chair and co-chair of the Convention Rules Committee, Utah National Committeewoman Enid Mickelson and Massachusetts National Committeeman Ron Kaufman. Both have spoken negatively about Trump in the past, but are viewed as party institutionalists. On Friday afternoon, the RNC Counsel’s Office distributed copies of the party’s current rules and proposed changes recommended by the RNC’s standing committee on rules to all members of the convention rules committee. In the week before the Cleveland convention, the convention rules committee and the full convention will have to approve the new rules, as well as any proposed amendments.

The circulating draft is one of several proposed amendments designed to undermine Trump or alleviate the concerns of delegates at the convention. A more radical proposal would unbind all delegates for any reason, while more limited measures would provide delegates with other outlets to voice their frustration with Trump at the convention.

In an interview with TIME last week, Trump said he had “no comment” about whether delegates who don’t support him should be removed from the convention, but said that those seeking to undermine him already “had their chance.”

“All I’ve heard is I’ve got more v**es than anybody in the history,” Trump said. “So I think it’s a little hard for somebody to do that. More v**es than anybody in history. They had their chance. I do know they represented other people who were defeated. And they had their chance. They could have won but they didn’t.”

The convention rules committee is made up of one man and one woman from each of the 50 states, U.S. territories, and the District of Columbia. Dominated by party insiders and loyalists to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz—who aggressively worked state conventions to secure slots on the committee—it remains to be seen what the committee’s appetite would be for such a dramatic break from the existing rules. It is complicated further by the Republican National Committee’s embrace of Trump early last month, even as some party leaders are reversing their earlier decisions to support Trump.

In an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd this week, Ryan gave members of his conference the leeway to avoid backing Trump. “The last thing I would do is tell anybody to do something that’s contrary to their conscience,” he said.

The text of the proposed rule:

'Preserving Delegates’ Ability to V**e Their Individual Conscience. The secretary of the national convention shall receive and faithfully announce and record each delegate’s v**e in accordance with these rules. If any such delegate notifies the secretary of his or her intent to cast a v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious, each such delegate shall be unbound and unconstrained by these rules on any given v**e, including the first b****t for the se******n of the Republican nominee for President of the United States, without the risk of challenge, sanction, or retribution by the Republican National Committee. Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention.'
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Although I am certainly no fan of Donald Trump, I believe this is an unwarranted attempt at disrupting/destroying the purpose of the primary e******ns process of either/both parties. The rules were, or should have been, understood prior to the v****g. T***p w*n the GOP primaries, and should, by all rights, be the nominee for the Republican Party...slatten49
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago br br Membe... (show quote)
What are they thinking? When you are in a political party you may disagree with a candidate but once you are with them you are with them. That is the way it should be. Scary to think that the hardened and experienced politicians will most certainly chew Trump up and spit him out should he make the nomination or even the presidency.

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Jun 20, 2016 02:58:46   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
slatten49 wrote:
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago

Members of the GOP Convention Rules committee are planning to consider an amendment to allow delegates a way out of v****g for Trump on the first b****t—an effort that in an extreme could be used to deny him the nomination.

Under the proposal, delegates could be granted conscientious objector status, thereby freeing them from their pledge to v**e as they are bound as the result of primaries and caucuses. The measure, first put forward by Colorado delegate Kendal Unruh, would undo the strict ‘faithless-delegate’ rule enacted at the GOP convention in 2012 and allow a “v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious” by delegates.

“Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention,” the amendment says.

Nearly all convention delegates are bound under the current rules—at least on the first b****t—by the results of primaries and caucuses in their states and territories. At minimum the proposed amendment would free frustrated delegates from having to v**e for Trump, and in the extreme could deny Trump the 1,237 delegates required to win the nomination—even on the first b****t.

On Friday, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus announced the se******n of the chair and co-chair of the Convention Rules Committee, Utah National Committeewoman Enid Mickelson and Massachusetts National Committeeman Ron Kaufman. Both have spoken negatively about Trump in the past, but are viewed as party institutionalists. On Friday afternoon, the RNC Counsel’s Office distributed copies of the party’s current rules and proposed changes recommended by the RNC’s standing committee on rules to all members of the convention rules committee. In the week before the Cleveland convention, the convention rules committee and the full convention will have to approve the new rules, as well as any proposed amendments.

The circulating draft is one of several proposed amendments designed to undermine Trump or alleviate the concerns of delegates at the convention. A more radical proposal would unbind all delegates for any reason, while more limited measures would provide delegates with other outlets to voice their frustration with Trump at the convention.

In an interview with TIME last week, Trump said he had “no comment” about whether delegates who don’t support him should be removed from the convention, but said that those seeking to undermine him already “had their chance.”

“All I’ve heard is I’ve got more v**es than anybody in the history,” Trump said. “So I think it’s a little hard for somebody to do that. More v**es than anybody in history. They had their chance. I do know they represented other people who were defeated. And they had their chance. They could have won but they didn’t.”

The convention rules committee is made up of one man and one woman from each of the 50 states, U.S. territories, and the District of Columbia. Dominated by party insiders and loyalists to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz—who aggressively worked state conventions to secure slots on the committee—it remains to be seen what the committee’s appetite would be for such a dramatic break from the existing rules. It is complicated further by the Republican National Committee’s embrace of Trump early last month, even as some party leaders are reversing their earlier decisions to support Trump.

In an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd this week, Ryan gave members of his conference the leeway to avoid backing Trump. “The last thing I would do is tell anybody to do something that’s contrary to their conscience,” he said.

The text of the proposed rule:

'Preserving Delegates’ Ability to V**e Their Individual Conscience. The secretary of the national convention shall receive and faithfully announce and record each delegate’s v**e in accordance with these rules. If any such delegate notifies the secretary of his or her intent to cast a v**e of conscience, whether personal or religious, each such delegate shall be unbound and unconstrained by these rules on any given v**e, including the first b****t for the se******n of the Republican nominee for President of the United States, without the risk of challenge, sanction, or retribution by the Republican National Committee. Allowable personal reasons shall include the public disclosure of one or more grievous acts of personal conduct by a nominee candidate, including but not limited to, criminally actionable acts, acts of moral turpitude or extreme prejudice, and/or notorious public statements of support for positions that clearly oppose or contradict the policies embodied in the Republican Party’s platform as established at the national convention.'
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Although I am certainly no fan of Donald Trump, I believe this is an unwarranted attempt at disrupting/destroying the purpose of the primary e******ns process of either/both parties. The rules were, or should have been, understood prior to the v****g. T***p w*n the GOP primaries, and should, by all rights, be the nominee for the Republican Party...slatten49
Zeke J Miller, Time...23 hours ago br br Membe... (show quote)


I read the same article and although I too am no fan of Trump I see no other viable choice at this point in time.

If indeed the republican convention leadership attempts this, it will become very ugly on the convention floor.

Has anyone seen the article regarding.the two email accounts of the black l***s m****r leadership being hacked? It has been on the net including emails and reveals a plot involving the B*M group, Obama, Lynch, Soros et al planning 10,000 protesters and shutting down the dem and repub conventions giving cause for a Obama to declare Marshall Law and suspend the e******ns. The plan is for him to remain in office for 2 more years giving time to.promote new candidates backed by OWO.

Has anyone else seen these stories?

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