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Jun 25, 2016 23:25:10   #
ubfiller
 
furthermore i believe that every attack on our soil by muslims is govt. sponsored all of it and anyone who thinks its not better take a good hard look at history, bay of Tonkin to vietnam , pearl harbor, 9/11, and the list goes on , its not conspiracy theory its fact , I've been doing research on this since before 9/11 , and the plain facts of the case is they want america taking apart, by hook or buy crook, my facts supporting my case would take days to list but they are out there, one only needs to do the research , and all the false f**gs lead to a very ugly ending for all us freedom loving americans, the time is now to keep vigilant and prepare for the worst, guns ammo , survival gear, water purifying systems and ways to grow food ! last but not least PRAY TO GOD EVERYDAY !

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Jun 25, 2016 23:40:12   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
robmull wrote:
"WE," Gatsby, are in a Constitutionally OBLIGATED "civil disobedience," that is going through our country like a wild-fire. I believe 26 States [and counting] are complicit in disavowing the current administrations "plans," that "WE" didn't sign-up for. As "OATHKEEPERS," our America's government; "OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE," is being threatened by a "stranger" to our 21st century Western free-market culture, and "WE" can no longer abide by the tyranny that has quietly and deceptively slithered into our sometimes overly hospitable free-market. Rude and obnoxious, [non-assimilating 7th century barbarians] have decided "WE," and our 21st century Western free-market civilization are to be terrorized into "submission;" the true meaning of [radical] Islam. FAT CHANCE!!! The "ready, shoot and aim" strategies and agenda of our current barbarian enemy's, foreign AND domestic, had a very powerful weapon in the Middle East, and now Western Europe; surprise. NO MORE!!! "WE" saw that movie before!!! Purposely created Muslim mayhem in primarily Muslim countries, obviously created by the 7th century Sharia ideology and agenda, programmed to explode like a cherry-bomb in a barrel of "ACORN'S," {where have I heard THAT name before?}, to rain-down on the non-Muslim world like the overwhelming swarming of locusts. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Where have I heard THAT before? Has anyone yet wondered why the BILLIONS OF ACRES, [that's BILLIONS of ACRES], of VACANT land, in Saudi Arabia, Chad, Egypt, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Algeria, Sudan, Niger, Ethiopia, Turkey, Mali, etc., has NEVER been offered for Muslim refugees??? Perhaps because [radical] Islam has already "DOMINATED" that part of the globe??? WAKE-UP AMERICA!!! "WE" are being quietly swarmed, at American taxpayer expense, with un-vetted, undocumented ""jihad" aged, "refugee/terrorists," from the war-torn Middle East; WHERE THEY SHOULD STAY; until PROPERLY vetted!!! Hummmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!
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Jun 26, 2016 07:55:02   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
ubfiller wrote:
Problem is tasine, is the country is so divided at this point that it will be very difficult, not impossible but , as the media keeps propagandizing the talking points and changing the facts no one is going to be properly informed to make a decision, and 50% of this country is to busy worrying about their nails, whose on 3rd base , or who there going to bed with tonite to even pay attention ! Govt. media complex is so entrenched that to wake up the masses to the t***h its going to take a major event, EMP attack , or a nuclear attack , or bio attack, but something big enough to get people to get involved with saving that constitution !
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True, the country IS divided and may never heal, but I tend to believe that the trouble makers, the socialists and the braindead are actually in the minority. I do believe that MOST real, working, and sensible people are in the majority but simply don't know what to do. I'll be the first to admit that I don't know what to do that will accomplish anything. I write, I email, I read, I let my politicians know what I think, but if that accomplishes anything, I don't know what it is accomplishing. Because of the corner our government officials have put us into, I don't believe there is a peaceful solution - and I sincerely doubt that "going to real war" would be the answer........TOO LOPSIDED. So far, reason has NOT prevailed, and the nation is slowly dying. I do believe that good, decent, honest Americans will be forced to work quietly and secretly at cleaning up the rot and getting the nation back to reality and sanity.........because if that isn't done by government officials and if it isn't done by citizens, we can honestly call America DEAD. I wish my grandchildren could know the nation I so happily grew up in, but I fear they missed the boat.......our grandkids will probably grow up in either a socialist or a Muslim country that we once knew as the greatest nation on earth, the U.S.A.

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Jun 26, 2016 16:59:32   #
ubfiller
 
I see what you mean , unfortunately i must agree with you completely, it may be to late, I remember my days growing up on the farm , we worked hard, played hard, rode horses to the swimming hole, shooting different pistols and rifles at tin cans on the fence , or hunting for deer, turkey, pheasant, and woodchucks, just for extra food on the table, and my kids can still enjoy that on the farm up in the catsk**ls, we live in NJ , where none of that is possible in most places but at least my family still own that 1000 acres of wilderness in the mountains and my kids get a taste of it when ever we go up to visit, its a shame because the way i grew up is completely different than the way things are today ! I hunted with a 12 gauge at the age of 8 by myself , and was the best shot in the entire county by the time i was 11 in my age bracket, we still leave our doors unlocked where I'm from because everyone is heavily armed , but most of all , people respect each others space and property, so its not even an issue , but every now and then some liberal from the city will purchase an old farm and try to enact the obama mentality on their neighbors and they usually end up selling and leaving because they are met with strong resistance from all the other bordering farms who like to shoot their guns and ride their dirt bikes and so on ,,, so yes times have changed but not everywhere YET ! GOD BLESS AMERICA ! !

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Jun 26, 2016 18:21:33   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
ubfiller wrote:
I see what you mean , unfortunately i must agree with you completely, it may be to late, I remember my days growing up on the farm , we worked hard, played hard, rode horses to the swimming hole, shooting different pistols and rifles at tin cans on the fence , or hunting for deer, turkey, pheasant, and woodchucks, just for extra food on the table, and my kids can still enjoy that on the farm up in the catsk**ls, we live in NJ , where none of that is possible in most places but at least my family still own that 1000 acres of wilderness in the mountains and my kids get a taste of it when ever we go up to visit, its a shame because the way i grew up is completely different than the way things are today ! I hunted with a 12 gauge at the age of 8 by myself , and was the best shot in the entire county by the time i was 11 in my age bracket, we still leave our doors unlocked where I'm from because everyone is heavily armed , but most of all , people respect each others space and property, so its not even an issue , but every now and then some liberal from the city will purchase an old farm and try to enact the obama mentality on their neighbors and they usually end up selling and leaving because they are met with strong resistance from all the other bordering farms who like to shoot their guns and ride their dirt bikes and so on ,,, so yes times have changed but not everywhere YET ! GOD BLESS AMERICA ! !
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So many Americans experienced the same type lives you and I experienced.......but the problem is that starting about 60 years ago, families started breaking apart, primarily to find jobs and decent livings. Then the hippies started in with their fairyland "love ins", so unserious and so infantile.......society began to rot then - and the socialists took advantage of people's decency and pushed through legislation that has done nothing but harm this nation. People who grew up decently and in freedom as best as we an describe freedom, backed down rather than fight because their decency prevailed.......the braindead and politicians took great advantage of that stand-down. We must never back down again when what is happening is a******l and/or dangerous.

My childhood was probably very different from yours, but we shared the same society: decency, responsibility, honesty, integrity. I grew up on a farm my dad managed......I grew up on a Texas farm, and all of us pulled cotten, chopped cotton, lived on the farm and didn't get water piped in to the house until I was in high school. We had no spare money. My sis and I shared a room and a bed......today each child "MUST" have his own room and own bed and own closet........if they only knew how we lived then, they would consider they must have fallen into a castle. As some of our land was some miles from the house, my dad taught me to drive a WWII jeep when I was 12, my sis and I swam in one of the stock tanks after playing in the creek that ran through our land. We made do......we were dirt poor, but my dad would have laid down and died before accepting anything he might have imagined to be a "hand-out"........he was a proud man, a worthwhile man, a man everyone liked and respected. Neither my step children nor my partner's children give us a thought nor do they visit. And we never locked our doors either, and were never robbed or abused.

I consider myself blessed. I grew up poor, lived poor, worked hard as an adult, and am now retired and doing all right as a 77 year old widow. My partner and I own a house together. It burns me to no end to have the end of my life put in jeopardy by greedy, self-centered government officials whom we pay FAR better than we ever could make for ourselves, and they try to completely control us.
But there is no point in leaving the country ...................... most are as bad off as ours. World-wide civilization has gone to pot and nations are dying like flies, and our politicians are spaced out on worrying about "g****l w*****g", i***t ingrates that they are. Their only goals in life are to maintain th.eir power and accumulate more money. That's obviously what happens to people when they lose their very souls.

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Jun 26, 2016 23:24:43   #
ubfiller
 
I could not have said it any better ! YOUR a wise Woman , GOD BLESS ! I to grew up dirt poor too but we always had plenty to eat because we raised our own livestock and had chickens, pigs, bee hives and hunted and trapped for furs, and lots of land to roam, but we worked very hard from 4 years old and up ! If you wanted something you had to work for it , no allowance or anything like that, I payed for my first horse mowing lawns and shoveling cow s**t, my kids have no idea what farm life is like , no heat or running water in the house, water was carried in from the well, and the heat you had to make by burning wood in the wood stove ! Today its much different but your right people today do not know what its like to go without, my kids get christmas and birthday gifts but thats it, they want something more than that they have to earn it, because of that they are not greedy and want very little , ! The america we grew up in is slowly disintegrating ! Thank god life on the farm still exists for people like myself whose ancestors never sold out !

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Jun 27, 2016 11:30:49   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
ubfiller wrote:
I could not have said it any better ! YOUR a wise Woman , GOD BLESS ! I to grew up dirt poor too but we always had plenty to eat because we raised our own livestock and had chickens, pigs, bee hives and hunted and trapped for furs, and lots of land to roam, but we worked very hard from 4 years old and up ! If you wanted something you had to work for it , no allowance or anything like that, I payed for my first horse mowing lawns and shoveling cow s**t, my kids have no idea what farm life is like , no heat or running water in the house, water was carried in from the well, and the heat you had to make by burning wood in the wood stove ! Today its much different but your right people today do not know what its like to go without, my kids get christmas and birthday gifts but thats it, they want something more than that they have to earn it, because of that they are not greedy and want very little , ! The america we grew up in is slowly disintegrating ! Thank god life on the farm still exists for people like myself whose ancestors never sold out !
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