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Jun 14, 2016 16:12:09   #
Airforceone
 
The actual wording that the NRA never mention is as follows.

(A WELL REGULATED M*****A, BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS , SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED)

The NRA version to the right wing extremist that live by there guns and pray at the alter of the NRA that we all know right winger will not look up the facts and just believe the NRA but here is the NRA version (THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED) that's hat you call right wing half t***h.

Does that sound like the NRA saying everybody has the right to bear arms yes it does but is it actually how amendment two was written absolutely not.

One part of common law or basic legal system that this country inherited from England which is the right to own and bear arms. However this right is not guaranteed to all citizens by the Constitution. Congress may place heavy restriction on the interstate sale of weapons. For example Congress enacted legislation forbidding manufacturer , t***sfer, or possession of machine guns, and this statute was upheld as constitutional. It has been tested on many occasions.

The actual purpose of this amendment is to provide for the effectiveness of the m*****a which would presumably protect the citizens against unconstitutional usurpation of power by the federal government.

But our right wing friends interpret this amendment to mean you can purchase an assault rifle with no background checks and walk into a classroom and mow down 20 6 year old kids and a nut case opportunist can walk into a gay bar in Orlando and k**l 50 people and blame it all on Obama because he is a Muslim. Does anybody even understand how foolish the right wing extremist really are. I had one i***t on OPP tell me that this Omar Mateen was a liberal and he believes it.

This amendment alone does not give all citizens the right to own weapons to use for duck hunting if congress wishes to restrict that right. It merely prevents the federal government from disarming members of the national guard. The courts have been tested on many occasions and the 2nd amendment only confers a collective right of keeping and bearing arms, which must bear reasonable relationship to the prevention or efficiency of a (well regulated m*****a)

Now for an example
A man was convicted of possessing a machine gun. He contended that he was subject to enrollment in the state m*****a (National Guard) and that therefore he had a fundamental right under the 2nd amendment to possess the gun.
The Court held that the 2nd amendment guarantees a collective, rather than a individual right to bear arms, which does not give any individual a personnel right to own a gun.

The federal government does have the constitutional right to regulate guns in this country. And they should with what's going on in this country. They just cannot take guns away from the national guard and I am okay with that.

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Jun 14, 2016 16:16:29   #
kburns50
 
OK..... What the F are you saying???? Short and Sweet for some of us taking target practice....

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Jun 14, 2016 16:27:04   #
moldyoldy
 
kburns50 wrote:
OK..... What the F are you saying???? Short and Sweet for some of us taking target practice....


In other words, a well regulated m*****a, think National Guard, not a bunch of i***ts playing soldier or cowboy. If the SCOTUS were to ever deal with this, that is the only way that they could rule. If the NRA keeps pushing then it will go to court.

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Jun 14, 2016 16:35:03   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
tdsrnest wrote:
The actual wording that the NRA never mention is as follows.

(A WELL REGULATED M*****A, BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS , SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED)

The NRA version to the right wing extremist that live by there guns and pray at the alter of the NRA that we all know right winger will not look up the facts and just believe the NRA but here is the NRA version (THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED) that's hat you call right wing half t***h.

Does that sound like the NRA saying everybody has the right to bear arms yes it does but is it actually how amendment two was written absolutely not.

One part of common law or basic legal system that this country inherited from England which is the right to own and bear arms. However this right is not guaranteed to all citizens by the Constitution. Congress may place heavy restriction on the interstate sale of weapons. For example Congress enacted legislation forbidding manufacturer , t***sfer, or possession of machine guns, and this statute was upheld as constitutional. It has been tested on many occasions.
But you think they should take my gun away, which never leaves my 10 acre property?
Don't you trust your fellow man?
Get real, laws are made for maybe 1% of us, those laws should not effect the rest negatively.
How many gangbangers will lose their guns because of any new law?
Same for terrorists, outlaw pressure cookers!
Tell me about crime in cities with strong gun control?
They've got you in an emotional state, logic doesn't work in that sort of situation.

The actual purpose of this amendment is to provide for the effectiveness of the m*****a which would presumably protect the citizens against unconstitutional usurpation of power by the federal government.

But our right wing friends interpret this amendment to mean you can purchase an assault rifle with no background checks and walk into a classroom and mow down 20 6 year old kids and a nut case opportunist can walk into a gay bar in Orlando and k**l 50 people and blame it all on Obama because he is a Muslim. Does anybody even understand how foolish the right wing extremist really are. I had one i***t on OPP tell me that this Omar Mateen was a liberal and he believes it.

This amendment alone does not give all citizens the right to own weapons to use for duck hunting if congress wishes to restrict that right. It merely prevents the federal government from disarming members of the national guard. The courts have been tested on many occasions and the 2nd amendment only confers a collective right of keeping and bearing arms, which must bear reasonable relationship to the prevention or efficiency of a (well regulated m*****a)

Now for an example
A man was convicted of possessing a machine gun. He contended that he was subject to enrollment in the state m*****a (National Guard) and that therefore he had a fundamental right under the 2nd amendment to possess the gun.
The Court held that the 2nd amendment guarantees a collective, rather than a individual right to bear arms, which does not give any individual a personnel right to own a gun.

The federal government does have the constitutional right to regulate guns in this country. And they should with what's going on in this country. They just cannot take guns away from the national guard and I am okay with that.
The actual wording that the NRA never mention is a... (show quote)

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Jun 14, 2016 16:39:43   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
The NRA has promoted and taught gun safety from its inception.
www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2013/jun/05/h...

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Jun 14, 2016 16:40:20   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
tdsrnest wrote:
The actual wording that the NRA never mention is as follows.

(A WELL REGULATED M*****A, BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS , SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED)

The NRA version to the right wing extremist that live by there guns and pray at the alter of the NRA that we all know right winger will not look up the facts and just believe the NRA but here is the NRA version (THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED) that's hat you call right wing half t***h.

Does that sound like the NRA saying everybody has the right to bear arms yes it does but is it actually how amendment two was written absolutely not.

One part of common law or basic legal system that this country inherited from England which is the right to own and bear arms. However this right is not guaranteed to all citizens by the Constitution. Congress may place heavy restriction on the interstate sale of weapons. For example Congress enacted legislation forbidding manufacturer , t***sfer, or possession of machine guns, and this statute was upheld as constitutional. It has been tested on many occasions.

The actual purpose of this amendment is to provide for the effectiveness of the m*****a which would presumably protect the citizens against unconstitutional usurpation of power by the federal government.

But our right wing friends interpret this amendment to mean you can purchase an assault rifle with no background checks and walk into a classroom and mow down 20 6 year old kids and a nut case opportunist can walk into a gay bar in Orlando and k**l 50 people and blame it all on Obama because he is a Muslim. Does anybody even understand how foolish the right wing extremist really are. I had one i***t on OPP tell me that this Omar Mateen was a liberal and he believes it.

This amendment alone does not give all citizens the right to own weapons to use for duck hunting if congress wishes to restrict that right. It merely prevents the federal government from disarming members of the national guard. The courts have been tested on many occasions and the 2nd amendment only confers a collective right of keeping and bearing arms, which must bear reasonable relationship to the prevention or efficiency of a (well regulated m*****a)

Now for an example
A man was convicted of possessing a machine gun. He contended that he was subject to enrollment in the state m*****a (National Guard) and that therefore he had a fundamental right under the 2nd amendment to possess the gun.
The Court held that the 2nd amendment guarantees a collective, rather than a individual right to bear arms, which does not give any individual a personnel right to own a gun.

The federal government does have the constitutional right to regulate guns in this country. And they should with what's going on in this country. They just cannot take guns away from the national guard and I am okay with that.
The actual wording that the NRA never mention is a... (show quote)


www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2013/jun/05/h...

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Jun 14, 2016 17:10:06   #
PeterS
 
tdsrnest wrote:
The actual wording that the NRA never mention is as follows.

(A WELL REGULATED M*****A, BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS , SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED)

The NRA version to the right wing extremist that live by there guns and pray at the alter of the NRA that we all know right winger will not look up the facts and just believe the NRA but here is the NRA version (THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED) that's hat you call right wing half t***h.

Does that sound like the NRA saying everybody has the right to bear arms yes it does but is it actually how amendment two was written absolutely not.

One part of common law or basic legal system that this country inherited from England which is the right to own and bear arms. However this right is not guaranteed to all citizens by the Constitution. Congress may place heavy restriction on the interstate sale of weapons. For example Congress enacted legislation forbidding manufacturer , t***sfer, or possession of machine guns, and this statute was upheld as constitutional. It has been tested on many occasions.

The actual purpose of this amendment is to provide for the effectiveness of the m*****a which would presumably protect the citizens against unconstitutional usurpation of power by the federal government.

But our right wing friends interpret this amendment to mean you can purchase an assault rifle with no background checks and walk into a classroom and mow down 20 6 year old kids and a nut case opportunist can walk into a gay bar in Orlando and k**l 50 people and blame it all on Obama because he is a Muslim. Does anybody even understand how foolish the right wing extremist really are. I had one i***t on OPP tell me that this Omar Mateen was a liberal and he believes it.

This amendment alone does not give all citizens the right to own weapons to use for duck hunting if congress wishes to restrict that right. It merely prevents the federal government from disarming members of the national guard. The courts have been tested on many occasions and the 2nd amendment only confers a collective right of keeping and bearing arms, which must bear reasonable relationship to the prevention or efficiency of a (well regulated m*****a)

Now for an example
A man was convicted of possessing a machine gun. He contended that he was subject to enrollment in the state m*****a (National Guard) and that therefore he had a fundamental right under the 2nd amendment to possess the gun.
The Court held that the 2nd amendment guarantees a collective, rather than a individual right to bear arms, which does not give any individual a personnel right to own a gun.

The federal government does have the constitutional right to regulate guns in this country. And they should with what's going on in this country. They just cannot take guns away from the national guard and I am okay with that.
The actual wording that the NRA never mention is a... (show quote)

We have a fundamental right to self defense and this would include the use of gun. It doesn't mean that we need a semi-auto or a machine gun for protection though. I've suggested in other threads that private ownership of guns be limited to bolt action or pump rifles and revolvers both limited to 6 shots. This means any attempts as mass carnage will be limited and at least people will have a chance when the shooter has to stop to reload. Guns that are nothing but WMD need to be banned form a civilized society. We will still have the ability to defend ourselves but within limits of a civilized society...,

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Jun 14, 2016 17:11:37   #
PeterS
 
bilordinary wrote:
The NRA has promoted and taught gun safety from its inception.
www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2013/jun/05/h...


This isn't a question of gun safety but keeping WMD out of the hands of lunatics...

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Jun 14, 2016 17:15:00   #
PeterS
 
moldyoldy wrote:
In other words, a well regulated m*****a, think National Guard, not a bunch of i***ts playing soldier or cowboy. If the SCOTUS were to ever deal with this, that is the only way that they could rule. If the NRA keeps pushing then it will go to court.

The original intent of the second amendment was to limit a freestanding army--George had used his to suppress private citizens--and substitute it with a well regulated m*****a.

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Jun 14, 2016 17:57:12   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
Thanks twits. You and your left wing hero's do more to increase gun sales than the NRA could ever do.

Please keep it up.

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Jun 14, 2016 18:15:09   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
tdsrnest wrote:
The actual wording that the NRA never mention is as follows.

(A WELL REGULATED M*****A, BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS , SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED)

The NRA version to the right wing extremist that live by there guns and pray at the alter of the NRA that we all know right winger will not look up the facts and just believe the NRA but here is the NRA version (THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED) that's hat you call right wing half t***h.

Does that sound like the NRA saying everybody has the right to bear arms yes it does but is it actually how amendment two was written absolutely not.

One part of common law or basic legal system that this country inherited from England which is the right to own and bear arms. However this right is not guaranteed to all citizens by the Constitution. Congress may place heavy restriction on the interstate sale of weapons. For example Congress enacted legislation forbidding manufacturer , t***sfer, or possession of machine guns, and this statute was upheld as constitutional. It has been tested on many occasions.

The actual purpose of this amendment is to provide for the effectiveness of the m*****a which would presumably protect the citizens against unconstitutional usurpation of power by the federal government.

But our right wing friends interpret this amendment to mean you can purchase an assault rifle with no background checks and walk into a classroom and mow down 20 6 year old kids and a nut case opportunist can walk into a gay bar in Orlando and k**l 50 people and blame it all on Obama because he is a Muslim. Does anybody even understand how foolish the right wing extremist really are. I had one i***t on OPP tell me that this Omar Mateen was a liberal and he believes it.

This amendment alone does not give all citizens the right to own weapons to use for duck hunting if congress wishes to restrict that right. It merely prevents the federal government from disarming members of the national guard. The courts have been tested on many occasions and the 2nd amendment only confers a collective right of keeping and bearing arms, which must bear reasonable relationship to the prevention or efficiency of a (well regulated m*****a)

Now for an example
A man was convicted of possessing a machine gun. He contended that he was subject to enrollment in the state m*****a (National Guard) and that therefore he had a fundamental right under the 2nd amendment to possess the gun.
The Court held that the 2nd amendment guarantees a collective, rather than a individual right to bear arms, which does not give any individual a personnel right to own a gun.

The federal government does have the constitutional right to regulate guns in this country. And they should with what's going on in this country. They just cannot take guns away from the national guard and I am okay with that.
The actual wording that the NRA never mention is a... (show quote)


Still on your little crusade I see. Why don't you move to France? The inability of citizens to own any type of firearm is working great over there.

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Jun 14, 2016 21:13:23   #
Airforceone
 
moldyoldy wrote:
In other words, a well regulated m*****a, think National Guard, not a bunch of i***ts playing soldier or cowboy. If the SCOTUS were to ever deal with this, that is the only way that they could rule. If the NRA keeps pushing then it will go to court.


The SCOTUS already ruled on it

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Jun 14, 2016 21:15:34   #
Airforceone
 
PeterS wrote:
We have a fundamental right to self defense and this would include the use of gun. It doesn't mean that we need a semi-auto or a machine gun for protection though. I've suggested in other threads that private ownership of guns be limited to bolt action or pump rifles and revolvers both limited to 6 shots. This means any attempts as mass carnage will be limited and at least people will have a chance when the shooter has to stop to reload. Guns that are nothing but WMD need to be banned form a civilized society. We will still have the ability to defend ourselves but within limits of a civilized society...,
We have a fundamental right to self defense and th... (show quote)


Thank you Peter you are the first on this thread that used a little common sense. And yes that's a start.

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Jun 14, 2016 21:17:06   #
Airforceone
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Thanks twits. You and your left wing hero's do more to increase gun sales than the NRA could ever do.

Please keep it up.


Then stop using your constitutional right to own a gun because that's not what the constitution says.

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Jun 14, 2016 21:17:40   #
steve66613
 
PeterS wrote:
This isn't a question of gun safety but keeping WMD out of the hands of lunatics...


WMD....really? National Guard the m*****a...really? Piss enough of us rednecks off and you'll see the "m*****a" in action....there's waaaay more of us than there are of you....and we won't v**e for the Clintons...pissed off or not!

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