oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

He has told so many lies and made so many false promises that about the only thing he has done that he promised to do is to change this country, fundamentally, is the only one I can think of that he has even tried to keep. It is good to see you people listing some of his crap lies.

hoodmik

I ask you for specific examples of what Obama was lying about and you finally gave me some examples. I haven't had much time to work on it but I am researching all your points.Haven't had time to get very far. In fact I am still on your first point of taking money from Medicare to finance Obamacare. I did find this article if you will spend the time to read it. http://www.alternet.org/hot-news-views/republicans-continue-lie-about-obama-and-medicare-destroy-716-billion-lie. haven't look into the others yet. Nonetheless, you insinuate Obama is telling bold face lies for no other purpose than to deceive. This is not the case. Obama is making an honest effort to rebuild the middle class and recover the country from the worst economic crises since the depression of the 30's. Do you disagree with this ? You haven't said, but do you support the Republican's plan ? Have you reviewed Paul Ryan's budget plan ? Do you agree with it even though it will slash the throats of 70% of the population if it were enacted ? Why are you opposed to Obamacare ? It will allow millions of people to finally obtain health care they were either denied or were prohibited by the high costs. What is wrong with this ? Are you not concerned about these people ? What exactly do you think should happen ?

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I see that you don't know that the CBO has said that although 30 million people will get Medicaid about 10 million who have insurance now won't have it after Obamacare goes into effect.

Do you have some proof that Obamacare doesn't call for a cut of from $50 billion to $70 billion every year for the next 10 years? Somehow I don't think you have heard about that part. You think that Medicare dies with Ryan's plans but survives the cut of over $700 billion. HOw can you be so unknowledgable about this?

The Dutchman

Wow! I clicked on the URL provided and got this?
"Page not found
The requested page "/hot-news-views/republicans-continue-lie-about-obama-and-medicare-destroy-716-billion-lie." could not be found".

Is it any wonder: AlterNet, is a project of the non-profit Independent Media Institute, is a progressive/liberal activist news service. Launched in 1998. Go figure Eh?

& I'll be dammed if I'll waste any more time on answering any of hoodmik's mindless blabber till he answers my
"First of all just what r****t remarks have I made?"
that he pulled out of his ass from the wild blue yonder. Notice how he like richard lee ALWAYS avoid answering questions they can not prove.

And any one that pays $10,000.00 for a bed frame is either lying like hell or a complete whacko, & faulked up like a wooden watch. It's no wonder he's a bleeding heart anti-American pro marxist obozo supporter Eh?

memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)

There's enough expert testimony as to the inviability of the BHO birth certificate. All that proves is he supplied a f**e. That in itself isn't conclusive evidence one way or another except to prove the President a liar. It would lead people to think he has something to hide...even if he doesn't.

Actually, I think his time in Indonesia is more relevant than his birth certificate. He attended public school there:

Was Obama Once an Indonesian Citizen? Here’s What We Found When We Went There Looking

This, taken as evidence, would be more than enough grounds for BHO to fail the natural born citizen requirement in order to run for president. This is far easier to verify than the birth certificate, and far more interesting.

The facts are that BHO is hiding something. He's spent too much money on it not to be the case. Wh**ever it is must be in some way damning for he to go to such effort to conceal it.

I love how f**grantly you brought out the race card. This is a typical tactic used by progressives. It does not make it true. I don't have to dislike him because he's half black. If that were the issue, I could just as easily h**e him for being half white. The problem with people like you is that you can't stand to hear the t***h. Some people just don't like BHO because of his political view. I don't like or dislike BHO. I never met him. He's not likely to be someone I want to meet. I already have many friends with strong liberal leanings (if being progressive can be called such a thing) that I already know that my time would be filled with many frustrating hours debating political arguments filled with fallacious reasoning. To this day I await a clean debate on the issues. As long as I keep running into people like you, I will continue to await that debate.

Also, "sleeping on a pile of s**t" was a metaphor. You must be such a child not to realize that. That you took me literally is laughable.

memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)

Assuming what you say is correct, good for you! However, you are wrong to make assumptions about one's financial security. People can go from rags to riches overnight, and from princes to paupers just as quickly. Guess which direction the majority of people tend to go? Remember the effect of gravity.

At any rate, it is only pure hubris that allows you to make claims of other people's financial stability without even knowing them. You would do well to remember that. Also, you place a high emphasis on material things as though that matters. Function is all that matters. How much something cost is not necessarily an indicator of quality. So, enjoy the mattress, but don't assume you get better sleep because of it.

For what it's worth, I tithe 10% of my gross earnings. I give in addition to that to people whose circumstances I deem worthy of assistance. That includes charitable institutions. The important point here is that I decide, not the government. Taxes collected by the government and distributed to entitlement programs is not charity. It's theft. Not all of the people on entitlement programs are deserving of those entitlements. Charity is better left in the hands of those who are best qualified to make such judgements, the people.

memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)

We'll see about that. Right now there are movements by the progressives to seize control of retirement assets. We'll see how much your investment's worth when that happens.

memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)

No, I've looked at the mattress (not simply frame) he bought. I like the model that's half the cost. Tempur-pedic's not cheap. However, I found a mattress for half that price that's just as comfortable. Sadly, you can't buy a good mattress anymore for under $1000 dollars without compromising on quality. All he's proven is that he likes to make a larger carbon footprint. Oh the shame!

hoodmik

It is difficult to know on this site who is saying what but this response is for THE DUTCHMAN:

Not sure why the link returned "Page not found". I was just on it but when I clicked again I also got "Page not found". I have included another link that gives an explanation of how Obamacare/ Medicare will function and it's benefits. Of course I realize if it disagrees your beliefs you will just scream "Bulls**t Liberal site !" I welcome a site you recommended that is neither Liberal or Conservative slanted with a non biased view. I expect you will just point me to a Conservative site and proclaim it is neutral but I could be wrong. http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-medicare.php

As for your r****t remarks, how about " The obozo is the off spring of a Muslim and a c*******t female born out of wedlock and may well be the bastard son of some other Marxist that he closely resembles." or "It's no wonder he's a bleeding heart anti-American pro Marxist obozo supporter Eh?" These are two remarks you have made that are extremely r****t. These are direct quotes from you that were not pulled out of my ass, you pulled them out of your own ass.
As for my $10,000 bed, once again you are wrong on both accounts. You only need to check the price of a tempur pedic mattress for proof of this. I could give a rat's ass what you think of this. It is the bed my girlfriend and I wanted and after 3 years, we are quite satisfied with our purchase. It provides very restful sleep and neither of us have had back problems since. This alone is worth 10 times what we paid. Plus the dual function allow one to elevate to read while the other reclines to sleep. It was a fantastic investment ! Amazing you would be such a dick to make such derogatory remarks and call me a liar about my choice of a bed. But you do put off the air of an asshole so I guess it is no surprise.

Speaking of avoiding questions, I asked you several specific questions about what you propose should be done. They were straight forward and not the least bit h**eful and you ignored them completely. Why did you do that ? Why do you blame me for the precise crap that you do ?

memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)

If a person respects the Constitution 100% then they defend it 100%. All I have seen are progressives attacking the constitution.

They pass laws such as those defining h**e crimes (news flash, all "h**e" crimes are already defined as crimes) with the purpose of curbing 1st Amendment rights. Such laws specifically target religious institutions (particularly Christian ones) for the purpose of aggrandizing (in particular) the L**T agenda (among others).

They pass laws in the guise of gun control. These laws are a f**grant violation of the 2nd Amendment,particularly the part that states "shall not be infringed." This is further supported by the writings of our founding fathers who wrote that this freedom was necessary for the preservation of liberty against a tyrannical government. "Which government?", you may ask. Certainly not an invading country. That would be obvious. The only tyrannical government of interest to our founding fathers would be this very government. Their intent was for the people of the country to be armed with the same weapons as may be used against them should the government attempt to deprive them of their God given, Constitutionally protected liberties. This can be further substantiated by the most common dictionary of their day.

Johnson's Dictionary of the English Language


Weapons of offence seems very well defined. I note a distinct lack of qualification here. It would appear that any weapon was deemed a weapon of offense regardless of caliber or capacity. That would include so-called "assault" weapons. Our forefathers wanted an armed populace. It was the only thing guaranteeing an open and honest government.

Remember one last key note of importance. Our forefathers considered "We the People" to be sovereign, not the government of the United States. Why else would we v**e on a new government every 2 years?

memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)

I acknowledge your intended recipient but shall reply anyway.

It happens. It's the way of the internet...especially if something is unsubstantiated.

Keep in mind liberals are always doing the same thing with conservative sites. With the politically charged bias existing in our country today, I do not think it possible to find a truly unbiased news provider anywhere.

I think you have a significant misunderstanding. His comments have no bearing on race. Therefore they cannot be construed as r****t. Also, his comments (largely) are born out of fact. Obama's father is muslim (a religious affiliation, not racial) and his mother is a C*******t (a political affiliation, not racial). He was conceived out of wedlock, a fact that caused his parents to marry. This act made his father a bigamist (by US legal definition) as his father was already married to another woman in Africa. At any rate, by definition, that would make BHO a bastard in the classical sense. However, I don't believe in illegitimate children, only illegitimate parents. All of this is public record, so nothing is pulled out of anyone's ass. However, the possibility of him actually being the son of another man is conjecture substantiated only by anecdotal evidence. I happen to have a good friend who is Sudanese. He married a white German woman. While you can tell his children definitely have a black heritage, they look very little like either of the parents. It would be easy to say that they resemble other "b****s" of mixed parentage. I personally don't find that conclusive as evidence.

I already commented on this, so I feel no further comment is necessary.

Summarize your specific questions, and maybe we will answer them.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Well Alternet is one of the very far left blogs so of course they all must work together. Did you see the chance to sign up to tell the Supreme Court that we have to allow same sex marriage. I almost signed a false name and email address and said something nasty but I decided that I shouldn't do that since they would consider it a v**e for something I sure don't want to see.

The Dutchman

memBrain, Thanks loads! You covered it to a "T"
I for the life of me can never understand why when ever a liberal hears someone say something they don't like or can't understand they always throw out the race card? Mabe it's in their "how to respond to a Conservative when you don't have the answer" code book Eh?
As to "the possibility of him actually being the son of another man is conjecture substantiated only by anecdotal evidence" The only way to be certain is with a DNA test and I doubt that will ever happen. There are just way to many things in his "Dreams of My Father' that left me on a wonder.

memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)

You're welcome! No argument that there are interesting points of note, but without a smoking gun there's little chance that anything further will come of this.

hoodmik

So you will hold a person responsible for his parent's actions ? How is that the least bit relevant to that individual ? So what is the word for someone that h**es someone based on their religion ? R****m ? Bigotry ? Discrimination ? Maybe none of these fit based on Webster but one word that does fit is "WRONG". And WRONG are exactly what your comments are.

To copy and paste questions I have asked previously "you insinuate Obama is telling bold face lies for no other purpose than to deceive. This is not the case. Obama is making an honest effort to rebuild the middle class and recover the country from the worst economic crises since the depression of the 30's. Do you disagree with this ? You haven't said, but do you support the Republican's plan ? Have you reviewed Paul Ryan's budget plan ? Do you agree with it even though it will slash the throats of 70% of the population if it were enacted ? Why are you opposed to Obamacare ? It will allow millions of people to finally obtain health care they were either denied or were prohibited by the high costs. What is wrong with this ? Are you not concerned about these people ? What exactly do you think should happen ?"

As for the birth certificate, Obviously there are some of you that will hang on to this even though it is a moot point. If his birth certificate was really f**e, don't you think the Republicans would have proved this regardless of the effort and money that would have been spent. They have done nothing but try to ruin Obama since he took office. They have wasted millions if not billions on their number one priority to make him a one term president. So much money wasted without achieving their goal. Now they are still wasting tax payers money in an attempt to block any legislating Obama proposes. Not to mention the recent 39th failed attempt to repeal Obamacare. 39 TIMES !!! At what cost ? It is so obvious the Republicans have no interest in the American people. They are nothing but puppets working for the gazillionaires that only want to use the country to increase their wealth. That is why the entire Republican party is disintegrating. It has finally become obvious to the majority of America and they are not happy.

You are wrong on another issue. I would love to hear the t***h but you are too brainwashed to even know what the t***h really is. It is not people like me. It is people like you that are incapable of a clean debate. I never hear a solution from people like you. Instead, it is all Obama bashing on anything he proposes. I don't pull the race card. You wave the f**g for all to see.

I am going through and answering questions as I see them so they may not be in order. I know you said you have addressed the bed so you were not going to comment on the subject any more. Well I just have two more comments to make. One, you are wrong, I do sleep much better on the bed. Could have bought a cheaper copy cat but you get what you pay for and mine was worth the extra dollars. Did I cause a larger carbon footprint ? How was that possible ? Using quality material instead of inferior will not cause a larger footprint. I make cuts in my budget in other areas. Such as my car which is a 2000 Nissan Altima that I paid cash for in 2000. Wonderful little car still. Most people invest considerably more in their automobiles over a 13 year period. Last bed comment. I was being completely facetious when I even mentioned the bed. Obviously the humor was a bit over your head.

What else ? Oh yes, the 2nd amendment. Why is the ban on a weapon that was designed for the sole purpose of k*****g humans in violation of the 2nd amendment ? Why does no one seem to have a problem with the ban of flame throwers, grenade launchers, and tanks ? No one wants to take away your guns only weapons of war.

And the last point. Why the Hell do you give a s**t about same sex marriage. I am as straight as they come but I sure the Hell won't stick my nose in someone's else's lifestyle if they are not harming anyone. What the Hell gives you the right to interfere ? Just because it is against your religion ? Wasn't this country founded on freedom of religion ? Apparently you interpret this as freedom of your religion. That is Bulls**t !!