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Jun 9, 2016 19:59:54   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
It has been determined that the chance of a protein, with 150 amino acids, forming by chance are 10^195. That's 10 followed by 195 zero's.

That is more than twice the number of atoms in the observable universe. Think about that.

Now, consider that these proteins are three dimensional. They contain many folded structures. If even one fold is incorrect, the protein will not function.

Now, I want you to consider the simple fact that this process would be required to create many different types of proteins in order for life to exist. Many of them with a much lower chance of forming correctly, due to the longer amino acid chains they are formed from.

To make matters even worse, these proteins can only be formed from left handed amino acids. If there is a single right handed amino acid, the protein will not function.

But wait. It gets even better. Proteins require protein chaperones in order to fold correctly. These chaperones are produced by DNA.

And if that wasn't bad enough, DNA cannot exist without proteins, but it requires DNA to make proteins. Catch 22.

It has been proposed that RNA was responsible for life, but this is just a theory. So, as you can see, the case for a naturalistic origin of life is effectively zero. And atheists think that Theists are crazy for believing in a Creator.

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Jun 9, 2016 20:17:23   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
It has been determined that the chance of a protein, with 150 amino acids, forming by chance are 10^195. That's 10 followed by 195 zero's.

That is more than twice the number of atoms in the observable universe. Think about that.

Now, consider that these proteins are three dimensional. They contain many folded structures. If even one fold is incorrect, the protein will not function.

Now, I want you to consider the simple fact that this process would be required to create many different types of proteins in order for life to exist. Many of them with a much lower chance of forming correctly, due to the longer amino acid chains they are formed from.

To make matters even worse, these proteins can only be formed from left handed amino acids. If there is a single right handed amino acid, the protein will not function.

But wait. It gets even better. Proteins require protein chaperones in order to fold correctly. These chaperones are produced by DNA.

And if that wasn't bad enough, DNA cannot exist without proteins, but it requires DNA to make proteins. Catch 22.

It has been proposed that RNA was responsible for life, but this is just a theory. So, as you can see, the case for a naturalistic origin of life is effectively zero. And atheists think that Theists are crazy for believing in a Creator.
It has been determined that the chance of a protei... (show quote)
I've said for many years that a Christian needs faith, but an atheist needs 'Blind Faith'.

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Jun 9, 2016 20:27:06   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
In the end Theism will be answered, without doubt, for those whom did not doubt it to begin with........

"Perfect Conscious" is the ultimate conclusion for all anyway..It is the road traveled to get there that defines........

Interesting concept you lay before us...Food for thought for some, for me, I need not know of it, to "simply know"...

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Jun 9, 2016 20:27:26   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Super Dave wrote:
I've said for many years that a Christian needs faith, but an atheist needs 'Blind Faith'.




Willful ignorance. Add to the list the fact that even the simplest cell requires hundreds of components that must be in place at the same time for a cell to operate. If just one part is missing, the cell dies. So how did all of these parts evolve separately, then come together to form the first cell?

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Jun 9, 2016 21:36:03   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:


Willful ignorance. Add to the list the fact that even the simplest cell requires hundreds of components that must be in place at the same time for a cell to operate. If just one part is missing, the cell dies. So how did all of these parts evolve separately, then come together to form the first cell?
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Note that the mitochondria an organelle . has its' own DNA, so at some point it was likely a separate free living cell.

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Jun 9, 2016 22:18:13   #
CarltonNewman
 
Everything is Energy, Frequency and Vibration. Einstein and Tesla weren't the only ones to realize this. The Mystics have always known this. Energy is neither created nor destroyed; it is omnipotent. Energy is everywhere; it is omnipresent. Energy flows according to certain geometric patterns such as the spiral, the Platonic Solids, the Pi, Phi, phi and Fibonacci ratios, etc. This Geometry of Divinity we have called GOD.

God, the Source, has been described as "a consuming fire" (Deu 4:24, Hbr 12:29) and as "Light" (1 John 1:5). This is a description of energy vibrating at high frequencies. The Light is synonymous with Christ and the Word (vibration). That Light is Self-luminous, Innately Intelligent, Conscious Energy. Therefore that Light Energy is omniscient and self-aware in every part of itself. All of the creation came forth from that Light. It is the " true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world." (John 1:9). We are "members in particular" (1 Cor 12:27) in the one body of Christ Light.

We were created in the image and likeness of God (Gen 1:26-27) male and female. Our soul is a living potential; a Seed of the Parent, which is meant to replicate the Parent in a unique form and fashion. We are replications of the Parent but we are not clones of the Parent. Every human, plant or animal replicates the parent uniquely; we are the same but we have unique differences. The soul is the Feminine aspect of our being; the bride.

The masculine aspect of our being (the brideg***m) is "the Spirit of his Son" (Gal 4:6). It is a Spark of God's Fire. A candle can light billions and trillions of other candles without diminishing itself. This Spirit Spark, this Holy Christ Flame, is a Threefold Flame; a trinity in a unity; three flames in one; a replica of the THRONE (Three-in-One) of God; Father (Blue, Power), Son (Yellow, Wisdom) and Holy Spirit (Pink, Love). This Threefold Flame is an endowment from God which enables us to "let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus" (Phil 2:5).

When the soul and the Spirit unite, after a long process of evolution in the earth, "a new creature" (2 Cor 5:17) is formed. This is somewhat akin to fertilization when the egg and sperm lose their individual identities and form a new creature. But this metamorphosis is grander than the mere t***sformation of a caterpillar into a butterfly.

1 Cor 15:47 "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven."


Elemental life; the birds and the bees, the flowers and the trees, etc are all composed of that self-luminous, innately intelligent, conscious energy and so they do not need to be taught how to build a nest or a hive or which nectar to create to attract which insect. The amoeba and the sponge have no brain and yet they function as they were designed. Evolution is the raising of the consciousness of the life form to a higher level. All life is in a constant state of evolution.

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Jun 9, 2016 23:55:08   #
Steve700
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
It has been determined that the chance of a protein, with 150 amino acids, forming by chance are 10^195. That's 10 followed by 195 zero's.

That is more than twice the number of atoms in the observable universe. Think about that.

Now, consider that these proteins are three dimensional. They contain many folded structures. If even one fold is incorrect, the protein will not function.

Now, I want you to consider the simple fact that this process would be required to create many different types of proteins in order for life to exist. Many of them with a much lower chance of forming correctly, due to the longer amino acid chains they are formed from.

To make matters even worse, these proteins can only be formed from left handed amino acids. If there is a single right handed amino acid, the protein will not function.

But wait. It gets even better. Proteins require protein chaperones in order to fold correctly. These chaperones are produced by DNA.

And if that wasn't bad enough, DNA cannot exist without proteins, but it requires DNA to make proteins. Catch 22.

It has been proposed that RNA was responsible for life, but this is just a theory. So, as you can see, the case for a naturalistic origin of life is effectively zero. And atheists think that Theists are crazy for believing in a Creator.
It has been determined that the chance of a protei... (show quote)
You know, evolutionists are all a bunch of atheists totally biased, and they are liars that will do anything to prove the validity of evolution. In 1940 there was the skeleton of a 16 foot giant in the museum of natural history in Chicago. Where is it now. It's gone but nobody knows. It was probably removed by the illuminati which is a satanic cult for the purpose of world domination through the coming one world government. That coming government is going to be satanicly inspired where Christiandom will be eliminated. The Bible speaks of these giants in Genesis and it is far FAR more than just Goliath. There were whole civilizations and cultures of them before Noah's flood. That is far from the only giant skeleton that has vanished. It seems the real ruling elite do not want such proof of the Bible that would debunk the godless theory of evolution to remain and be public knowledge.

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Jun 10, 2016 05:55:07   #
Sickntired
 
If evolution is true, then why do apes exist? Shouldn't they be man by now?
By evolution standards, shouldn't man be superman by now?
If evolution was true, we wouldn't be suffering obama right now.

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Jun 10, 2016 06:52:03   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Sickntired wrote:
If evolution is true, then why do apes exist? Shouldn't they be man by now?
By evolution standards, shouldn't man be superman by now?
If evolution was true, we wouldn't be suffering obama right now.


Actually all members of a species would not evolve at the same rate, if at all.

The lack of period of evolution is much more clear. There is no evidence whatsoever of a chain of a apes evolving into people.

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Jun 10, 2016 07:34:02   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Super Dave wrote:
Actually all members of a species would not evolve at the same rate, if at all.

The lack of period of evolution is much more clear. There is no evidence whatsoever of a chain of a apes evolving into people.


There is no evidence that it happened at all.

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Jun 10, 2016 12:11:13   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
There is no evidence that it happened at all.

That's correct.

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Jun 10, 2016 15:32:03   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
There is no evidence that it happened at all.


Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny. learn it, understand it.

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Jun 10, 2016 15:46:52   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
peter11937 wrote:
Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny. learn it, understand it.


I am familiar with phylogeny, however, it raises more questions than it answers. And science still has no evidence that evolution ever happened, or is even possible.

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Jun 10, 2016 15:50:39   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
I am familiar with phylogeny, however, it raises more questions than it answers. And science still has no evidence that evolution ever happened, or is even possible.


Then you understand nothing. The entire Universe evolves, as does everything n it, nothing is steady state.Exactly as God designed it.

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Jun 10, 2016 15:53:59   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
peter11937 wrote:
Then you understand nothing. The entire Universe evolves, as does everything n it, nothing is steady state.Exactly as God designed it.


I never mentioned anything about steady state. Living things change, but there is a limit to that change. I repeat. There is no evidence that evolution has ever happened, or is even possible. Read up on something called the DNA barrier, and you'll understand.

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