Finally Science and religion may be becoming friends.
Jun 5, 2016 04:21:05 #
PeterS wrote:
So being part of god isn't enough?
Kinda what I was alluding to.
Jun 5, 2016 04:26:14 #
Docadhoc wrote:
God is not dangerous. You have a very twisted perception of Him. Common among people who know nothing of Him.
You didn't read what I wrote Doc. I know god isn't dangerous because there is no god to endanger us with. As I said, if I were to worship a rock that would be more dangerous than god because in the right hands a rock can k**l me. A god on the other hand has no power to do anything to me at all...
Jun 5, 2016 04:30:22 #
PeterS wrote:
You didn't read what I wrote Doc. I know god isn't dangerous because there is no god to endanger us with. As I said, if I were to worship a rock that would be more dangerous than god because in the right hands a rock can k**l me. A god on the other hand has no power to do anything to me at all...
He made you an i***t.
Jun 5, 2016 04:35:08 #
bilordinary wrote:
Kinda what I was alluding to.
That doesn't explain the universe though and that's what I was alluding to. Consider this--if we just had a planet, a moon to provide the seasons, a sun to provide light and warmth, than all else necessary is a god to provide the elements to make up life. Instead we have a universe that contains all the same elements that we need in order to be alive. There would be no reason to believe that we are creations of the universe unless it could provide all we needed for life.
It seems all god did in creating a universe was to confuse how life could have begun on this planet. He provided us with the reason to doubt his existence and for a loving god that seems a most curious thing to do...
Jun 5, 2016 04:35:58 #
Jun 5, 2016 05:08:19 #
PeterS wrote:
So being part of god isn't enough?
Now that is one of.your most goofy comments. You really are confused.
It's really comical when an atheist.makes really ignorant commentary about God , but think they are being cerebral and esoteric.
Jun 5, 2016 05:20:07 #
PeterS wrote:
Well, I guess someone had to be dumber than you, huh...
You certainly are that.
Jun 5, 2016 05:43:00 #
Docadhoc wrote:
Now that is one of.your most goofy comments. You really are confused.
It's really comical when an atheist.makes really ignorant commentary about God , but think they are being cerebral and esoteric.
It's really comical when an atheist.makes really ignorant commentary about God , but think they are being cerebral and esoteric.
So you are saying that there is something greater than being part of god? So what is it, don't leave us h*****g. And there was nothing cerebral about my question--it was a simple observation from my teaching as a child. If my teachers were wrong than please enlighten me. I would love to know why being part of god wouldn't be enough...
Jun 5, 2016 07:29:23 #
PeterS wrote:
Perhaps the universe is just God showing off. Or perhaps He gives us undeniable proof of His existence so that we can more easily follow Him.What "it" was the greatest discovery of all time that Hawkins was talking about?
And here is what I've always wondered--if god is responsible for life what purpose is there to the universe?
And here is what I've always wondered--if god is responsible for life what purpose is there to the universe?
Jun 5, 2016 07:33:24 #
PeterS wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if atheists are really that arrogant, of if they are trying to impress others.You didn't read what I wrote Doc. I know god isn't dangerous because there is no god to endanger us with. As I said, if I were to worship a rock that would be more dangerous than god because in the right hands a rock can k**l me. A god on the other hand has no power to do anything to me at all...
If you want to impress us, and prove God is no big deal, then make a rock from scratch.
After you notice you cannot, imagine the wonder of a rock. What it took for that rock to come from a nothingness of no matter, energy, time, or space...
Jun 5, 2016 08:22:18 #
The farther science advances, the more magnificent God's creations are shown to be, and the more atheism is disproven.
Jun 5, 2016 08:40:00 #
crazylibertarian
Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
The schism never really existed anyway. Scientific investigation was considered the search for God's plan for the universe and consequently us. The Jesuits were entrusted with much of that part of the Church's functions.
The Galileo incident, that has been used by secularists and atheists to discredit the Church & hence religion in general, was not handled well by the Church and has played into opponents' hands. What has been ignored is that the Jesuits had more accurate measurements that pointed to a terracentric universe while Galileo's pointed to solacentrism. As time has shown, both were wrong and our planet, solar system & galaxy, the Milky Way, are hurtling together toward some other place. Along the way we are likely to pass through another galaxy.
It is important to realize that the Church, along with the Jesuits, monks and other of its groups, have had a hand in much scientific discoverery. Among the most important is the work of Grigor Mendel who laid the foundation for inheritance. And no matter what else, everyone should realize that as he hoists to enjoy a glass of champagne or other sparkling wine, Grand Marnier or other liqueur and many beers & ales, that his imbibing is a result of work of innumerable and unheralded monks.
Even Richard Dawkins can't deny that. And maybe all of you readers of this who are atheists and anti-theists should cease and desist in such joie de vivre.
The Galileo incident, that has been used by secularists and atheists to discredit the Church & hence religion in general, was not handled well by the Church and has played into opponents' hands. What has been ignored is that the Jesuits had more accurate measurements that pointed to a terracentric universe while Galileo's pointed to solacentrism. As time has shown, both were wrong and our planet, solar system & galaxy, the Milky Way, are hurtling together toward some other place. Along the way we are likely to pass through another galaxy.
It is important to realize that the Church, along with the Jesuits, monks and other of its groups, have had a hand in much scientific discoverery. Among the most important is the work of Grigor Mendel who laid the foundation for inheritance. And no matter what else, everyone should realize that as he hoists to enjoy a glass of champagne or other sparkling wine, Grand Marnier or other liqueur and many beers & ales, that his imbibing is a result of work of innumerable and unheralded monks.
Even Richard Dawkins can't deny that. And maybe all of you readers of this who are atheists and anti-theists should cease and desist in such joie de vivre.
Jun 5, 2016 10:14:51 #
wuzblynd
Loc: thomson georgia
PeterS wrote:
So it's not possible to have no god because there is no god? And tell me, if I pick up a rock and start worshiping it does that mean I now have a god? And tell me wolfie, will he strike you down if you deny him? If that's true why are there more atheists now than ever before? I think my rock is more dangerous than your god--because my rock, in the right hands, really can k**l me...
Your unbelief hasnt changed the temp. In hell.
Jun 5, 2016 10:31:23 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
Docadhoc wrote:
Now that is one of.your most goofy comments. You really are confused.
It's really comical when an atheist.makes really ignorant commentary about God , but think they are being cerebral and esoteric.
It's really comical when an atheist.makes really ignorant commentary about God , but think they are being cerebral and esoteric.
I think it's even more comical for a believer to think the god in the Bible is the true god. They might as well claim Zeus is god.
Jun 5, 2016 11:42:11 #
Docadhoc wrote:
Now that is one of.your most goofy comments. You really are confused.
It's really comical when an atheist.makes really ignorant commentary about God , but think they are being cerebral and esoteric.
It's really comical when an atheist.makes really ignorant commentary about God , but think they are being cerebral and esoteric.
God is not a separate entity, God is everything.
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