This salvation makes us useless
One question Christians ask strangers is, “are you saved“? This is a loaded question containing a lot of preconceived notions that disagree with scripture. We are taught to repent of sins without being taught what is and is not a sin. We ask Jesus to forgive our sins and come into our lives, then the Holy Spirit will be a voice in our head telling us what job or mate to pick. We are taught that being saved gives us special privileges and a life with no worries. We expect people to like us and everyone to agree with our ideas. If this is true why does the bible say friendship with the world is enmity with God? God wants His will to be done on earth. If you don’t obey His will, you can give a church all your money, it won’t change anything, God will do nothing for you. Read the word of God, let the Holy Spirit speak to your heart, and govern your actions accordingly. God will not be pleased with anyone in a nation that murders children and legalizes same sex marriage.
fredlott63 wrote:
This salvation makes us useless
One question Christians ask strangers is, “are you saved“? This is a loaded question containing a lot of preconceived notions that disagree with scripture. We are taught to repent of sins without being taught what is and is not a sin. We ask Jesus to forgive our sins and come into our lives, then the Holy Spirit will be a voice in our head telling us what job or mate to pick. We are taught that being saved gives us special privileges and a life with no worries. We expect people to like us and everyone to agree with our ideas. If this is true why does the bible say friendship with the world is enmity with God? God wants His will to be done on earth. If you don’t obey His will, you can give a church all your money, it won’t change anything, God will do nothing for you. Read the word of God, let the Holy Spirit speak to your heart, and govern your actions accordingly. God will not be pleased with anyone in a nation that murders children and legalizes same sex marriage.
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But god made homosexuals and has killed more children than anyone else. I followed you until you threw in a clinker...
PeterS wrote:
But god made homosexuals and has killed more children than anyone else. I followed you until you threw in a clinker...
Being homosexual is not a sin. Homosexual sex is.
Killing is not a sin. Murder is.
Super Dave wrote:
Being homosexual is not a sin. Homosexual sex is.
Killing is not a sin. Murder is.
Six of one and half a dozen of the other. Twenty five percent of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. Given god's omnipotence is that killing or murder? And god created homosexuals under the proposition that they not have sex? Come now Dave, you can't really buy that...
PeterS wrote:
Six of one and half a dozen of the other. Twenty five percent of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. Given god's omnipotence is that killing or murder? And god created homosexuals under the proposition that they not have sex? Come now Dave, you can't really buy that...
No, it's not the same.
Nobody lives forever as a mortal soul. Everyone dies. Everyone is not murdered. Life would not be precious if nobody ever died.
I didn't say God didn't intend for homosexuals to have sex. I said homosexual sex was a sin. It is always a sin to have sex outside of a Godly marriage.
God created people wanting to beat their wives and have sex outside of marriage. Being a person with a desire to sin is not sinful. The sin is in the conscious wilful act.
Do you think homosexuals are like rutting animals with no self control? God does not. God gives us free will.
PeterS wrote:
But god made homosexuals and has killed more children than anyone else. I followed you until you threw in a clinker...
God did not make homosexuals. Read Leviticus 18:22. The only species of animal that practices same sex relationships is man. There are no lesbian lions, gay tigers, or homosexual gorillas. When did God kill a child? Don't follow me. I am just a guy.
Super Dave wrote:
Being homosexual is not a sin. Homosexual sex is.
Killing is not a sin. Murder is.
You know a tree by it's fruit. Abortion is a sin.
fredlott63 wrote:
You know a tree by it's fruit. Abortion is a sin.
Of course it is. Dying of natural cause is not a sin.
fredlott63 wrote:
God did not make homosexuals. Read Leviticus 18:22. The only species of animal that practices same sex relationships is man. There are no lesbian lions, gay tigers, or homosexual gorillas. When did God kill a child? Don't follow me. I am just a guy.
Leviticus 18:22 says not to engage in homosexual sex. It does not say God did not make people with homosexual tendencies.
Super Dave wrote:
Leviticus 18:22 says not to engage in homosexual sex. It does not say God did not make people with homosexual tendencies.
If your desires go against the will of God you have to make a choice.
fredlott63 wrote:
If your desires go against the will of God you have to make a choice.
You have to make a choice either way.
You either choose to follow God's word, or you choose to oppose it.
God allows us to make that choice, because without making a choice one does not do good or evil. A hammer can crush a skull or build a house. The hammer is neither good nor evil because the hammer does not choose. The person wielding it chooses.
Super Dave wrote:
No, it's not the same.
Nobody lives forever as a mortal soul. Everyone dies. Everyone is not murdered. Life would not be precious if nobody ever died.
I didn't say God didn't intend for homosexuals to have sex. I said homosexual sex was a sin. It is always a sin to have sex outside of a Godly marriage.
God created people wanting to beat their wives and have sex outside of marriage. Being a person with a desire to sin is not sinful. The sin is in the conscious wilful act.
Do you think homosexuals are like rutting animals with no self control? God does not. God gives us free will.
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When we go to heaven we are going to live forever. Isn't that going to be precious? And why would god create homosexuals if he didn't intend for them to have sex? And we are animals David. We have our own phylum, species, an everything. Go figure...
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