In a small, brief puff of smoke, everthing changed (Page 4): THAT!! Those ideas, and that innocence, Is what I fought for!!! That is worth the lives I took, and I would do so again, if...

Ve'hoe

THAT!! Those ideas, and that innocence, Is what I fought for!!! That is worth the lives I took, and I would do so again, if it is threatened,,, freedom is worth it,,, and like I said before,,, of all the people in the world I have met some good ones,,, but I LIKE Americans best,,, no color, no creed,, it is the people who hear THAT, and get it!!

rumitoid wrote:

Chills down my spine. Thank you, very moving.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

alex wrote:

when you find one let me know because I obviously need one also

Geez, you are in CA. With all the wacko Hollywood types and others, you would think there would be a mental health professional on every corner.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

AuntiE wrote:

Geez, you are in CA. With all the wacko Hollywood types and others, you would think there would be a mental health professional on every corner.

if there was don't you think most of those wacko's would be locked up now?

jay-are

Ve'hoe wrote:

Hmmm?? You don't have to agree with them to acknowledge their existence,, do you see that??

No, I don't see that.

I am putting forth a definition of justification in this context.

Justification for a war is reasons why the war is necessary to accomplish or preserve something good.

I am suggesting that reasons to go to war for evil purposes is not "justification" but is "criminal."

I am not saying I do not see the reasons, just that I disagree with giving Germany the freedom to claim "justification."

Ve'hoe

Then we are saying the same thing,,, Everyone who starts a war "thinks" they have a good reason,,,,they usually don't

Having been in a few wars,,,, I am interested in hearing just what a "good" reason is, but I believe there are good and more appropriately Valid reasons for action.

jay-are wrote:

No, I don't see that.

I am putting forth a definition of justification in this context.

Justification for a war is reasons why the war is necessary to accomplish or preserve something good.

I am suggesting that reasons to go to war for evil purposes is not "justification" but is "criminal."

I am not saying I do not see the reasons, just that I disagree with giving Germany the freedom to claim "justification."

jay-are

Ve'hoe wrote:

Then we are saying the same thing,,, Everyone who starts a war "thinks" they have a good reason,,,,they usually don't

Having been in a few wars,,,, I am interested in hearing just what a "good" reason is, but I believe there are good and more appropriately Valid reasons for action.

One good reason is self defense. USA in WWII

And as I said before both sides in the Civil War had reasons that I would acknowledge as valid.

Stop conquering hoards, would be valid for me.

Ve'hoe

I would add Freedom and the defense of the constitution against domestic enemies

jay-are wrote:

One good reason is self defense. USA in WWII

And as I said before both sides in the Civil War had reasons that I would acknowledge as valid.

Stop conquering hoards, would be valid for me.

Puds Loc: So Centrl MN

A growing concern!

Ve'hoe wrote:

I would add Freedom and the defense of the constitution against domestic enemies