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Iraq Seeks US aid after pushing out troops
Oct 31, 2013 16:23:27   #
timmh67 Loc: USA...West Coast
 
Well, here we are again... Nearly two years after pushing out the U.S. military, Iraq is asking and begging for more weapons,training and manpower to help fight a bloody resurgence of al-Qaida that has unleashed a level of violence comparable to the darkest days of the nation's civil war.

The request will be discussed during a White House meeting on Friday between Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri-Maliki and President barry Obama in what Bagdad hopes will be a fresh start in a compicated relationshiip that has been marked by victories and frustrations for each side.

This is really pathetic, right ? Another bump in the road and the Araqi's are wanting us back... B.S, the Araqi's need to learn to depend on themselves and not the U.S. We have our own diplomatic problems hear. Besides, our military is tired from a 13 year war. obama has got to be in Wonderland with Alice smelling the roses.

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Oct 31, 2013 16:59:38   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
timmh67 wrote:
Well, here we are again... Nearly two years after pushing out the U.S. military, Iraq is asking and begging for more weapons,training and manpower to help fight a bloody resurgence of al-Qaida that has unleashed a level of violence comparable to the darkest days of the nation's civil war.

The request will be discussed during a White House meeting on Friday between Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri-Maliki and President barry Obama in what Bagdad hopes will be a fresh start in a compicated relationshiip that has been marked by victories and frustrations for each side.

This is really pathetic, right ? Another bump in the road and the Araqi's are wanting us back... B.S, the Araqi's need to learn to depend on themselves and not the U.S. We have our own diplomatic problems hear. Besides, our military is tired from a 13 year war. obama has got to be in Wonderland with Alice smelling the roses.
Well, here we are again... Nearly two years after ... (show quote)


why should they do anything? Their uncle sam will hep'em out? We have as many furenors on our welfare roles as we do Americans. I posted " really big brother " about this issue and no one seemed to care. Maybe you'll get more feedback.

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Oct 31, 2013 17:14:27   #
CJakobsson
 
What we do in Iraq should be done in coordination with the United Nations. A reintroduction of US troops in a lead role in Iraq would be a disaster for both countries.
One historical fact that we need to understand about Iraq is the fact that there were multiple wars going on in Iraq before the US invasion of 2003. The fact that Saddam Hussein's Baath Party was thoroughly dominating the Shiites to the point where the Shiites had lost the ability to mount an effective resistance, does not change the fact that there was a war going on between the Sunnis and the Shiites.
What Iraq really needs is a way to bring about peace between the Sunnis, the Shiites, and the Kurds. The role of the US can be to provide technical assistance in the effort to establish some semblance of security, but the diplomatic effort to bring the warring factions together has to be led by others; preferably by elected governments in the Islamic world, such as Turkey and Indonesia.

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Oct 31, 2013 17:21:53   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
CJakobsson wrote:
What we do in Iraq should be done in coordination with the United Nations. A reintroduction of US troops in a lead role in Iraq would be a disaster for both countries.
One historical fact that we need to understand about Iraq is the fact that there were multiple wars going on in Iraq before the US invasion of 2003. The fact that Saddam Hussein's Baath Party was thoroughly dominating the Shiites to the point where the Shiites had lost the ability to mount an effective resistance, does not change the fact that there was a war going on between the Sunnis and the Shiites.
What Iraq really needs is a way to bring about peace between the Sunnis, the Shiites, and the Kurds. The role of the US can be to provide technical assistance in the effort to establish some semblance of security, but the diplomatic effort to bring the warring factions together has to be led by others; preferably by elected governments in the Islamic world, such as Turkey and Indonesia.
What we do in Iraq should be done in coordination ... (show quote)


yes, not us. We're not very good at it anyway. Perhaps the arab league will split Iraq up and separate the factions. I don't care what they do a long as we're not paying for it. We're broke.

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Oct 31, 2013 17:50:06   #
CJakobsson
 
If Iraq were to be split up to separate the warring factions, that would probably mean forcibly evicting a lot of people from where they live and relocating them to a community that would be completely new to them. I do not know enough about the demographics of Iraq and the distribution of the various population groups to know to what extent that would be the case, but I feel confident in the accuracy of the statement that when you do that to tens of thousands of people, it is politically destabilizing and economically disruptive.
Violent ethnic and sectarian rivalries are usually started and maintained by a relatively small number of troublemakers looking to use the rivalry as a path to power. Effective law enforcement with civic cooperation is usually the key to defusing those kinds of rivalries so that people don't keep on getting k**led.

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Nov 2, 2013 11:53:48   #
matnc816
 
This clown comes here for our help. NO NO NO he didn't want any of our troops in Iraq so be it. We have a fraud for a president who was all to willing to pull out to appease his left wing base. He didn't care about all the people who would be k**led by Al-Queda (which he told us was on the run) Go back to Iraq because you are reaping what you've sewn.

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