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May 8, 2016 15:49:03   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
McCain Demands Trump Apologize to POWs

By Cathy Burke | 08 May 2016


Sen. John McCain said Sunday he believes Donald Trump "could be a capable leader," but needs to reach out to "heal the many wounds" of a turbulent campaign – and to retract his statement disrespecting POWs.

In an interview with CNN's "State of the Union." the Arizona lawmaker said he's never seen a campaign like this one .

"I think it's obvious there has to be outreach on his part to heal many of the wounds," the Arizona senator said on CNN's "State of the Union." "Frankly, I have never seen... a campaign like this one where people's integrity and character are questioned."

"That bothers me a lot. It bothers me a lot because you can violently disagree with someone on an issue but to attack their character and integrity, those wounds take a long time to heal," he said.

And one group in particular deserves an apology he said: prisoners of war.

Trump sparked criticism when he mocked McCain's military service last summer, and declared: "I like people who weren't captured."

"I think it's important for Donald Trump to express his appreciation for veterans, not John McCain, but veterans who were incarcerated as prisoners of war," he said.

"What he said about me, John McCain, that's fine. I don't require any repair of that, but when he said 'I don't like people who were captured,' then there's a body of American heroes that I'd like to see him retract that statement. Not about me, but about the others."

Nevertheless, McCain said he's supporting the presumptive GOP p**********l nominee.

"I Think He Could Be a Capable Leader," he said.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/john-mccain-trump-should/2016/05/08/id/727739/#ixzz485tOnydP

(Having Spent Four Years In The Navy ('60-'64) As An Enlisted Man, I Have Some Anti-Officers Feelings Built In, And I Was 17 When I Went In, Just a Smart Ass Kid, And Was 21 Went I Got Out, Still a Kid, Just Not As Much a Smart Ass... Mr. Trump Not Having Served In Any Branch of The Military As Officer or Enlisted Probably Should Shut Up About What He Just Doesn't Know Anything About, And Eating Some Humble Pie By Apologizing Whether He Means or Not Might Be Good For Him And Beating Hillary... Don D.)

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May 9, 2016 08:23:56   #
Nutter Loc: Fly Over Zone
 
I am probably going to anger many here on OPP, but John McCain has a very blemished history when it comes to helping out his fellow MIA's

In 1990, at the urging of the families of the missing prisoners, Congress considered "The T***h Bill," which McCain managed to k**l. It was replaced in 1991 by the "McCain Bill, which did nothing to unseal records.

McCain got into an argument with Dolores Alfond, the sister of a missing airman, woman who wanted the files de-classified. The senator, whose conduct was ugly and shocking, reduced her to tears. His approach was that anyone who disagreed with him impugned his honor and patriotism. McCain walked out of the hearing.

Biu Tin, a former North Vietnamese colonel and interrogator of prisoners, appeared at the hearings to say that all the POWs had been sent home in 1973. Mc Cain hugged him. Bin Tin had also told an interviewer that McCain had never been tortured.

Congress passed the Missing Personnel Act in 1996, but Mc Cain added an amendment that rendered it unenforceable. A group of about 15 POW/MIA supporters awaited McCain in the Russell Senate Office Building on June 20, 1996 to ask him to drop the amendment. When he realized who they were, his face reddened and he exploded in anger, brushing aside a woman in a wheelchair. These folks thought he had assaulted the lady and filed charges with C*****l P****e.

Bill Bell, former head of the Office of POW/MIA Affairs, relates how he was in Hanoi in 1993 with McCain and Ambassador Bill Peterson. Bell said that both Mc Cain and Peterson were very interested in reaching an agreement that POW records from the war never be made public.

McCain’s conduct in this matter is as old as history, going back to that of the Roman aristocrats who cared little for what happened the ordinary men in the legions. In this case, a man born to privilege suffered in a prisoner of war camp but, once liberated, he commanded the effort to discredit those who sought answers about the Missing in Action and the POWs who were never repatriated. As one might expect, his record on veterans concerns is indifferent to so-so. He was not there when they most needed him. He refused to co-sponsor the Agent Orange Bill in 1984 or the Gulf Veterans Health Care Act of 1998. Today, he is the chief spokesman for continuing the Afghan War indefinitely.
Mc Cain says he does not like war, but American promotes it more. But as the prototypical militarist, John Mc Cain shows too little interest in the cost of war and what it does to its victims.

Some say McCain’s recent postures show he no longer has integrity. Maybe he lacked it all along.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/07/09/882995/-John-McCain-vs-the-POW-MIA-Advocates

http://www.gx2527leftinvietnam.com/mccainm.html

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May 9, 2016 17:07:12   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
Nutter wrote:
I am probably going to anger many here on OPP, but John McCain has a very blemished history when it comes to helping out his fellow MIA's

In 1990, at the urging of the families of the missing prisoners, Congress considered "The T***h Bill," which McCain managed to k**l. It was replaced in 1991 by the "McCain Bill, which did nothing to unseal records.

McCain got into an argument with Dolores Alfond, the sister of a missing airman, woman who wanted the files de-classified. The senator, whose conduct was ugly and shocking, reduced her to tears. His approach was that anyone who disagreed with him impugned his honor and patriotism. McCain walked out of the hearing.

Biu Tin, a former North Vietnamese colonel and interrogator of prisoners, appeared at the hearings to say that all the POWs had been sent home in 1973. Mc Cain hugged him. Bin Tin had also told an interviewer that McCain had never been tortured.

Congress passed the Missing Personnel Act in 1996, but Mc Cain added an amendment that rendered it unenforceable. A group of about 15 POW/MIA supporters awaited McCain in the Russell Senate Office Building on June 20, 1996 to ask him to drop the amendment. When he realized who they were, his face reddened and he exploded in anger, brushing aside a woman in a wheelchair. These folks thought he had assaulted the lady and filed charges with C*****l P****e.

Bill Bell, former head of the Office of POW/MIA Affairs, relates how he was in Hanoi in 1993 with McCain and Ambassador Bill Peterson. Bell said that both Mc Cain and Peterson were very interested in reaching an agreement that POW records from the war never be made public.

McCain’s conduct in this matter is as old as history, going back to that of the Roman aristocrats who cared little for what happened the ordinary men in the legions. In this case, a man born to privilege suffered in a prisoner of war camp but, once liberated, he commanded the effort to discredit those who sought answers about the Missing in Action and the POWs who were never repatriated. As one might expect, his record on veterans concerns is indifferent to so-so. He was not there when they most needed him. He refused to co-sponsor the Agent Orange Bill in 1984 or the Gulf Veterans Health Care Act of 1998. Today, he is the chief spokesman for continuing the Afghan War indefinitely.
Mc Cain says he does not like war, but American promotes it more. But as the prototypical militarist, John Mc Cain shows too little interest in the cost of war and what it does to its victims.

Some say McCain’s recent postures show he no longer has integrity. Maybe he lacked it all along.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/07/09/882995/-John-McCain-vs-the-POW-MIA-Advocates

http://www.gx2527leftinvietnam.com/mccainm.html
I am probably going to anger many here on OPP, but... (show quote)


I'm a conservative and a Vietnam combat veteran - I have NEVER cared for McCain and have never trusted him. He is no conservative, never has been - never will be. In my humble opinion he is, and always has been a RINO. I think McCain is the one who should be apologizing. It is past time that he fade into obscurity.

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May 9, 2016 18:27:27   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
I agree... Don D.

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SGM B wrote:
I'm a conservative and a Vietnam combat veteran - I have NEVER cared for McCain and have never trusted him. He is no conservative, never has been - never will be. In my humble opinion he is, and always has been a RINO. I think McCain is the one who should be apologizing. It is past time that he fade into obscurity.

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May 9, 2016 19:10:32   #
Nutter Loc: Fly Over Zone
 

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May 13, 2016 23:34:04   #
RJohnson
 
Wasn't McCain an enemy collaborator while held as a POW. Seems I heard that he made propaganda broadcasts to the country and to his fellow prisoners; that he was always seen as well dressed and well fed; and that he was known by his captors as "the songbird". I don't recall any of his fellow POWs publicly supporting him for the senate or for president. Didn't McCain receive a p**********l pardon without which he could have been court martialed. He has definitely shown a great deal of resentment toward Vietnam veterans, blocking any effort to investigate whether some POWs were not released, etc.

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May 14, 2016 05:39:43   #
Nutter Loc: Fly Over Zone
 
Colonel Earl Hopper who served 30 years as an Army Airborne special forces officer. He spent most of his career as an intelligence officer during the Korean and Vietnam Wars. He has dev**ed much of his time and expertise to the return of living American POWs from the Vietnam War as a founding member and chairman of the board of the National League Of Families. "In the very beginning, talking with the returned POWs, we began to here some very bad things about John McCain and his activities while he was in the POW camp. For example, after 5-7 days in captivity, he asked to be taken to a Vietnamese Hospital. In return, he gave them classified military information about "package routes" and targets used to bomb North Vietnam by US forces."

Because of his treasonous conduct while a POW, five returning colonels and and several other POWs wanted to prefer charges against McCain. Since the Secretaries of the Armed Services wanted all returning POWs seen as heroes, McCain and others were never tried in a military court of law .

Here is a tidbit you don't here about:

In 1967, the USS Forrestal suffered near catastrophic damage from a fire that raged on-board for nearly two days. John McCain was stationed on the Forrestal at the time and was quite likely responsible for the fire that k**led 134 sailors and injured 62 others.

Hot dog pilots were well known for their "wet-starts," a process which allows fuel to build up in the engine before hitting the plane's start switch. The result of the wet-start is a long flame erupting from the tail of the plane. It was done simply for effect, a showy procedure meant to draw attention to the pilot.

On June 29, 1967, John McCain is alleged to have used a wet-start to "shake up" a pilot in the plane behind him. The result was a fired rocket, dropped bombs and a fire that raged for nearly two days. 134 sailors lost their lives and another 62 were badly injured.

McCain never had to answer for the incident. His father and grandfather were Navy admirals with a great deal of sway.

Three months after the Forrestal disaster McCain was shot down over North Vietnam. You know the rest of the story.

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