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May 8, 2016 06:16:21   #
Progressive One
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/us/politics/republican-party-unravels-over-donald-trumps-takeover.html?emc=edit_th_20160508&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=51247735&_r=0

By seizing the Republican p**********l nomination for Donald J. Trump on Tuesday night, he and his millions of supporters completed what had seemed unimaginable: a hostile takeover of one of America’s two major political parties.

Just as stunning was how quickly the host tried to reject them. The party’s two living former presidents spurned Mr. Trump, a number of sitting governors and senators expressed opposition or ambivalence toward him, and he drew a forceful rebuke from the single most powerful and popular rival left on the Republican landscape: the House speaker, Paul D. Ryan.

Rarely if ever has a party seemed to come apart so visibly. Rarely, too, has the nation been so on edge about its politics.

Many Americans still cannot believe that the bombastic Mr. Trump, best known as a reality television star, will be on the b****t in November. Plenty are also anxious about what he would do in office.

But for leading Republicans, the dismay is deeper and darker. They fear their party is on the cusp of an epochal split — a historic cleaving between the familiar form of conservatism forged in the 1960s and popularized in the 1980s and a rekindled, atavistic nationalism, with roots as old as the republic, that has not flared up so intensely since the original America First movement before Pearl Harbor.

Some even point to France and other European countries, where far-right parties like the National Front have gained power because of the sort of resentments that are frequently given voice at rallies for Mr. Trump.

Yet if keeping the peace means embracing Mr. Trump and his most d******e ideas and utterances, a growing number are loath to do it.

The ties between Republican elites — elected officials, donors and Washington insiders — and v**ers have actually been fraying for years. Traditional power brokers long preached limited-government conservatism and wanted to pursue an immigration overhaul, entitlement cuts, free trade and a hawkish foreign policy, and nominees like John McCain and Mitt Romney largely embraced that agenda. Republican leaders also vilified President Obama and Democrats, stoking anger with rank-and-file conservatives.

Many Republican v**ers trudged along with those earlier nominees, but never became truly animated until Mr. Trump offered them his brand of angry populism: a blend of protectionism at home and a smaller American footprint abroad. And he was able to exploit their resentments and frustrations because those same Republican leaders had been nurturing those feelings for years with attacks on Mr. Obama, Democrats, i*****l i*******ts and others.

Mr. Trump, with his steadfast promises to deport immigrants who are in the country illegally and to build a wall with Mexico, may have done irreversible damage to his general e******n prospects. But he quickly earned the trust that so many of those v**ers had lost in other fixtures of America — not just in its leaders, but in institutions like Congress, the Federal Reserve and the big-money campaign finance system that Mr. Trump has repudiated, as well as in corporations, the Roman Catholic Church and the news media.

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May 8, 2016 06:36:44   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
More breaking" news" from another lunatic liberal and the New York Times.It's not the Republican Party that's unraveling at least not on OPP.

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May 8, 2016 06:37:47   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
The party will be back. I just hope it happens before so many Americans are coaxed into slothfulness that our country cannot be saved.

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May 8, 2016 06:38:26   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/us/politics/republican-party-unravels-over-donald-trumps-takeover.html?emc=edit_th_20160508&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=51247735&_r=0

By seizing the Republican p**********l nomination for Donald J. Trump on Tuesday night, he and his millions of supporters completed what had seemed unimaginable: a hostile takeover of one of America’s two major political parties.

Just as stunning was how quickly the host tried to reject them. The party’s two living former presidents spurned Mr. Trump, a number of sitting governors and senators expressed opposition or ambivalence toward him, and he drew a forceful rebuke from the single most powerful and popular rival left on the Republican landscape: the House speaker, Paul D. Ryan.

Rarely if ever has a party seemed to come apart so visibly. Rarely, too, has the nation been so on edge about its politics.

Many Americans still cannot believe that the bombastic Mr. Trump, best known as a reality television star, will be on the b****t in November. Plenty are also anxious about what he would do in office.

But for leading Republicans, the dismay is deeper and darker. They fear their party is on the cusp of an epochal split — a historic cleaving between the familiar form of conservatism forged in the 1960s and popularized in the 1980s and a rekindled, atavistic nationalism, with roots as old as the republic, that has not flared up so intensely since the original America First movement before Pearl Harbor.

Some even point to France and other European countries, where far-right parties like the National Front have gained power because of the sort of resentments that are frequently given voice at rallies for Mr. Trump.

Yet if keeping the peace means embracing Mr. Trump and his most d******e ideas and utterances, a growing number are loath to do it.

The ties between Republican elites — elected officials, donors and Washington insiders — and v**ers have actually been fraying for years. Traditional power brokers long preached limited-government conservatism and wanted to pursue an immigration overhaul, entitlement cuts, free trade and a hawkish foreign policy, and nominees like John McCain and Mitt Romney largely embraced that agenda. Republican leaders also vilified President Obama and Democrats, stoking anger with rank-and-file conservatives.

Many Republican v**ers trudged along with those earlier nominees, but never became truly animated until Mr. Trump offered them his brand of angry populism: a blend of protectionism at home and a smaller American footprint abroad. And he was able to exploit their resentments and frustrations because those same Republican leaders had been nurturing those feelings for years with attacks on Mr. Obama, Democrats, i*****l i*******ts and others.

Mr. Trump, with his steadfast promises to deport immigrants who are in the country illegally and to build a wall with Mexico, may have done irreversible damage to his general e******n prospects. But he quickly earned the trust that so many of those v**ers had lost in other fixtures of America — not just in its leaders, but in institutions like Congress, the Federal Reserve and the big-money campaign finance system that Mr. Trump has repudiated, as well as in corporations, the Roman Catholic Church and the news media.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/us/politics/repu... (show quote)
-------hi ----i think people are tired of the 2 parties get in there & do nothing for us ..!!!!! they seem to forget we are part of america not them ..they only think for them selves not us .. i am tired too seems like when (democats)= they are crooked cats , get in the people that there cabinet & other area's same crooks show up too ..
& republicans too i think thee crooks never do much for us 11!!!!!!!! when clinton was in office & the contract america was made the stock market went up the budget went down some they did something for the country not for them selves !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!they was forced to do something right a common sense thing to do !!!!!!!!!

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May 8, 2016 06:42:02   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
-------hi ----i think people are tired of the 2 parties get in there & do nothing for us ..!!!!! they seem to forget we are part of america not them ..they only think for them selves not us i am tired too seems like when democats get in the people that there cabinet & other area's same crooks show up too
& republicans too i think thee crooks never do much for us 11!!!!!!!! when clinton was in office & the contract america was made the stock market went up the budget went down some they did something for the country not for them selves !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-------hi ----i think people are tired of the 2 pa... (show quote)
But they did do it for themselves.

The point is that we need politicians that succeed when America succeeds.

That requires an e*****rate that supports success for America, and does not support it's demise.

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May 8, 2016 08:00:16   #
rjoeholl
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/us/politics/republican-party-unravels-over-donald-trumps-takeover.html?emc=edit_th_20160508&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=51247735&_r=0

By seizing the Republican p**********l nomination for Donald J. Trump on Tuesday night, he and his millions of supporters completed what had seemed unimaginable: a hostile takeover of one of America’s two major political parties.

Just as stunning was how quickly the host tried to reject them. The party’s two living former presidents spurned Mr. Trump, a number of sitting governors and senators expressed opposition or ambivalence toward him, and he drew a forceful rebuke from the single most powerful and popular rival left on the Republican landscape: the House speaker, Paul D. Ryan.

Rarely if ever has a party seemed to come apart so visibly. Rarely, too, has the nation been so on edge about its politics.

Many Americans still cannot believe that the bombastic Mr. Trump, best known as a reality television star, will be on the b****t in November. Plenty are also anxious about what he would do in office.

But for leading Republicans, the dismay is deeper and darker. They fear their party is on the cusp of an epochal split — a historic cleaving between the familiar form of conservatism forged in the 1960s and popularized in the 1980s and a rekindled, atavistic nationalism, with roots as old as the republic, that has not flared up so intensely since the original America First movement before Pearl Harbor.

Some even point to France and other European countries, where far-right parties like the National Front have gained power because of the sort of resentments that are frequently given voice at rallies for Mr. Trump.

Yet if keeping the peace means embracing Mr. Trump and his most d******e ideas and utterances, a growing number are loath to do it.

The ties between Republican elites — elected officials, donors and Washington insiders — and v**ers have actually been fraying for years. Traditional power brokers long preached limited-government conservatism and wanted to pursue an immigration overhaul, entitlement cuts, free trade and a hawkish foreign policy, and nominees like John McCain and Mitt Romney largely embraced that agenda. Republican leaders also vilified President Obama and Democrats, stoking anger with rank-and-file conservatives.

Many Republican v**ers trudged along with those earlier nominees, but never became truly animated until Mr. Trump offered them his brand of angry populism: a blend of protectionism at home and a smaller American footprint abroad. And he was able to exploit their resentments and frustrations because those same Republican leaders had been nurturing those feelings for years with attacks on Mr. Obama, Democrats, i*****l i*******ts and others.

Mr. Trump, with his steadfast promises to deport immigrants who are in the country illegally and to build a wall with Mexico, may have done irreversible damage to his general e******n prospects. But he quickly earned the trust that so many of those v**ers had lost in other fixtures of America — not just in its leaders, but in institutions like Congress, the Federal Reserve and the big-money campaign finance system that Mr. Trump has repudiated, as well as in corporations, the Roman Catholic Church and the news media.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/us/politics/repu... (show quote)


Oh intelligent one, tell me something. How can the whole Republican party take itself over? What we did was what we said all along we were going to do. That is, if our representatives didn't listen to us we would find someone who would. The Rep. party didn't break up, we just told our congressmen to piss up a rope.

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May 8, 2016 08:24:15   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
One thing for sure the Democrat party is well unified and all's well with the masses they think the sun rises and sets in Hillary the most corrupt lying ugly pig and Bernie a self avowed socialist c*******t and they h**e America so much that they'd v**e for anyone carrying on the Obama t***sformation promise to make this great country into another 3rd would country !

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May 8, 2016 09:18:09   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
4430 wrote:
One thing for sure the Democrat party is well unified and all's well with the masses they think the sun rises and sets in Hillary the most corrupt lying ugly pig and Bernie a self avowed socialist c*******t and they h**e America so much that they'd v**e for anyone carrying on the Obama t***sformation promise to make this great country into another 3rd would country !







It's just the ole' Alinsky thing that the "demonrats" always use to misdirect the patriotic conservative Constitutionalist's eye, 4430, as far from their t*****rous Party as possible. Mr. Trump, for now, is the "shiny" object to take our focus away from "played-out" Hillary, AND the quiet and deceptive invasion of [millions?] of non-assimilating, un-vetted, undocumented "Jihad" aged "refugee/terrorists," who are being {Grubered} American taxpayer t***sported [and fully supported], from the war-torn Middle East, and through our purposely porous borders [who were] refused citizenship or occupation in the hundreds of millions of acres of vacant land available IN the Middle East Muslim nations, and deceptively and strategically now being imported to every corner of our "Shining Light on the Hill, From Sea to Shining Sea." Hummmmmmmm. I see London has lost the 21st century "Crusade," with 7th century radical Islam, and the first "devout" Muslim, [with terrorist ties {MB}], has been elected as Mayor. And just as "BHB" has been "appointing" "devout" Muslims to power positions in America [un-vetted Senior P**********l Advisors, Czar positions, Cabinet positions, CIA, HLS, NRA, FBI, EPA, ATFE, American Documentation Bureau, etc.], Great Britain is about to ALSO feel the weight of the genius 7th century barbaric military prowess of Mohammed in [his] Allah-obligated "devout" quest for total, THAT'S "TOTAL," world domination; in ANY peaceful or terrorist manner available or accessible. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!

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May 8, 2016 09:54:47   #
CowboyMilt
 
rjoeholl wrote:
Oh intelligent one, tell me something. How can the whole Republican party take itself over? What we did was what we said all along we were going to do. That is, if our representatives didn't listen to us we would find someone who would. The Rep. party didn't break up, we just told our congressmen to piss up a rope.


That's exactly right...for 71/2 years congress has put up with Obama's lies & his executive order leadership, spending & spending, giving in to Iran for their nuke power, lies about B******i, Hillary's lies & manipulation of her own email server & on & on...The list is endless...Congress has done nothing but give in to all of Obama's demands & who has constantly held the threat of Martial Law over our heads, and Fema Camps & Guillotines in storage, the constant imploding of i*****l i*******ts through our porous border & the continual imploding of muslim i*****l i*******ts ....And nothing gets done ... Now we have Donald Trump who has WON his chance at the republican nomination over 15 or so competitors & this isn't good enough for the congress because it doesn't fit the plans of the "Elite" the One World Order guys & gals...We have Hillary under very possible Indictment for many crimes still hammering to be the First Woman President which has been her life long desire & all seem to want her above Trump who is in this to Make America Great Again...Hillary, by the way should have been in prison long ago for her illegal devious ways & her previous illegal activities...I say let it run it's course & what will be will be...

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May 8, 2016 16:04:38   #
Progressive One
 
Hemiman wrote:
More breaking" news" from another lunatic liberal and the New York Times.It's not the Republican Party that's unraveling at least not on OPP.


maybe you OPP types should form your own party and run-call yourselves the trump-ettes......

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May 8, 2016 16:11:25   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
maybe you OPP types should form your own party and run-call yourselves the trump-ettes......
maybe you OPP types should form your own party and... (show quote)


And you can have one also call yourselves,criminals-at-large,or scum-on-the-run.Maybe dopes on the end of a rope.

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May 8, 2016 16:14:40   #
Progressive One
 
Hemiman wrote:
And you can have one also call yourselves,criminals-at-large,or scum-on-the-run.Maybe dopes on the end of a rope.


I know Republicans are good at creating false narrative and repeat it over until it become the t***h in their circles, and t***h to those who are too lazy to read and learn from gossip and commentary only. You people are sad trying to win based on a smear campaign because you know the right's knowledge of issues sucks royally. what a pathetic approach.

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May 8, 2016 16:17:41   #
Progressive One
 
Can Trump turn any blue states red?

To win in November, the Republican would have to redraw the e*******l map.

WASHINGTON — After staging an epic upset to become the GOP’s presumptive p**********l nominee, Donald Trump faces an even stiffer challenge in the fall as he confronts not only doubts about his demeanor but a daunting political map.
Pollsters, political analysts and swing-state strategists in both parties agree: Trump’s extraordinary unpopularity — particularly with women and minorities — along with divisions in the Republican Party and the country’s changing demographics mean he starts in a deep hole.
To reach the 270 e*******l v**es it takes to win the White House, the businessman and reality TV star would have to carry a number of states that have not v**ed Republican in well over a generation, while prevailing in several battlegrounds, where polls show he starts behind.
He must also defend states that have reliably v**ed GOP for decades.
“It’s a very steep slope to climb,” said William Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institute in Washington, who has closely studied the political composition of the 50 states.
Ordinarily, Republicans might have greater cause for optimism.
President Obama’s approval has risen throughout the year and now sits above 50% in many polls, which helps Democrats. But economic growth, while steady, has been unspectacular, which doesn’t give the party or its nominee much lift. A disappointing jobs report Friday underscored that trend.
Democrats face another significant disadvantage: Their nominee, most likely Hillary Clinton, will be seeking the party’s third consecutive term in the White House, something v**ers rarely grant.
Put those factors together and forecasts might normally suggest a slight Republican edge in November, said Alan Abramowitz, an Emory University political scientist who has written extensively on p**********l e******ns.
“But,” he added, “that’s not factoring in Donald Trump.”
If any e******n shows the danger of relying on precedent, it is this one. Few took Trump seriously when he announced he would compete for the Republican nomination against several of the party’s most highly regarded prospects, including Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Jeb Bush, Florida’s former governor and the brother and son of former presidents.
Sizable shifts in the e*******l map, however, are rare. All but 10 states have v**ed for the same party in every p**********l race since 2000. Based on recent performance, Democrats start out the fall contest with a considerable advantage.
The Democrats have won 18 states and the District of Columbia in each of the last six p**********l e******ns. Anchored by California and Trump’s native New York, those states offer 242 e*******l v**es. Democrats lead in those states plus others, bringing their total to 253.
There are 13 states that have gone Republican in every p**********l race since 1992, adding up to 102 e*******l v**es. Several other states lean strongly toward the GOP, raising the total to191.
To reach the White House, Trump would have to greatly expand the competitive map. Demographic changes and the Manhattan mogul’s dismal standing with broad swaths of the e*****rate will make that difficult.
The presumptive nominee says he can generate a significantly higher turnout of white blue-collar v**ers, boosting him in Democratic-leaning industrial states, but “two can play that game,” said Whit Ayres, a Republican pollster who worked for Rubio’s campaign.
“Given his incredibly derisive comments about Mexicans and other immigrants, it’s reasonable to think that there would be an enormous turnout of Hispanics to stop Donald Trump,” Ayres said. If so, Nevada and Colorado — which were expected to be major battlegrounds — could move beyond Trump’s reach.
So would Florida, a perennial toss-up.
The nation’s most populous swing state, it has drifted slowly but steadily toward Democrats since the 2000 e******n ended in a chaotic virtual tie. The 50-50 e*****rate that year reflected “a Florida that’s gone now,” said David Johnson, the former executive director of the state GOP.
The percentage of w****s in the state has declined steadily, and huge migration from economically strapped Puerto Rico has changed Florida’s Latino population, once primarily Cuban, to a more Democratic-leaning e*****rate.
In 2012, Johnson noted, Republican Mitt Romney carried about 40% of the state’s Latino v**ers and still lost to President Obama by a percentage point. This time, Johnson said, Trump would do well to win a quarter of Florida’s Latinos.
“That’s not a valid mix to win,” he said. “You have to have a better message than ‘the Hispanics love me,’ because the numbers show that they don’t.”
**From today's LA Times**

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May 8, 2016 16:26:48   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
I know Republicans are good at creating false narrative and repeat it over until it become the t***h in their circles, and t***h to those who are too lazy to read and learn from gossip and commentary only. You people are sad trying to win based on a smear campaign because you know the right's knowledge of issues sucks royally. what a pathetic approach.


Oh come on now,creating false narrative and smear campaigns are the only thing liberals do well, the problem is you can't find anyone but stupid liberal democrats to believe it.I agree it's pathetic but when it's all you have, run with it.

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May 8, 2016 16:49:25   #
Progressive One
 
Hemiman wrote:
Oh come on now,creating false narrative and smear campaigns are the only thing liberals do well, the problem is you can't find anyone but stupid liberal democrats to believe it.I agree it's pathetic but when it's all you have, run with it.


1. Hillary is a Criminal
2.Obama is Muslim
3. Obama wasn't born here
4. Death Panels

the list of bulls**t created by the rightwingnuts is long.

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